Outcasts draft- Game Changers

Welcome to the Outcasts draft! For some of you this is a new experience, so here’s a quick breakdown of how this goes:

  1. The draft will take place in the comments section. This is a snake-style draft, meaning that whoever gets the first pick will also get the last pick. Other than that, the same rules/scoring apply here as in the Pick-4 fantasy league.
  2. Each of us will draft two players, and I will alert you when it’s your turn to draft. I’ll respond to one of your comments so you get a notification in Disqus.
  3. Draft order is determined by our dear computerized friends at random.org.
  4. The scoring system is the exact same as it is in the Pick-4 league, so see that page if you need a reminder of how scoring works.
  5. If at any time you have questions, just post them in the comments section.

The draft

That means the order is above so we go:

  1. EmAndScoutInBK – Andrea
  2. Me – Malcolm
  3. Mike Hirsch – Aubry
  4. Sharculese – Troy (yes really Troy)
  5. Ms. Woozah – Varner
  6. Roswulf – Hali
  7. Alycia Swift – Sarah
  8. Black Dynamite – JT
  9. Saturday Night Palsy – Tony
  10. Kemper Boyd – Michaela
  11. Kemper Boyd – Sandra
  12. Saturday Night Palsy – Debbie
  13. Black Dynamite – Ozzy
  14. Alycia Swift – Cirie
  15. Roswulf – GCFFSDT
  16. Ms. Woozah – Zeke
  17. Sharculese – Caleb
  18. Mike Hirsch – Brad
  19. me – Tai
  20. EmAndScoutInBK – Ciera

Available Players:

Andrea

Aubry

Brad

Caleb

Ciera

Cirie

Debbie

Hali

JT

Malcolm

Michaela

Ozzy

Sandra

Sarah

Sierra

Tai

Tony

Troy

Varner

Zeke

  • Purplerockmatt

    Check in by responding to this comment

    • Ms_Woozah

      Here!

      • Purplerockmatt

        your turn to pick!

      • Purplerockmatt

        back on the clock!

        • Ms_Woozah

          Okay. I’ll go with Zeke. It was between him and Brad, who I think will go far as a goat, but I won’t be able to stomach rooting for Brad for a whole season.

          • Purplerockmatt

            Zeke it is!

    • Alycia Swift

      Here.

      • Purplerockmatt

        and it is now your turn to pick

        • Alycia Swift

          Sorry I was on a conference call.

          I’ll take Sarah Lacina.

          • Purplerockmatt

            not a problem. sarah is yours

      • Purplerockmatt

        your turn again. No rush

        • Alycia Swift

          Cirie.

          • Purplerockmatt

            Jealous. She is yours

    • Kemper Boyd

      Woop Matt and all the ladies

      • Purplerockmatt

        there are some guys, they are just less responsive

        • Kemper Boyd

          Phrasing

        • sharculese

          I was busy trying to teach a girl half of calculus in one afternoon.

        • Kemper Boyd

          What’s the draft order?

          • Purplerockmatt

            refresh the post and it should show up for you

    • Roswulf

      There…I mean here

      • Purplerockmatt

        your turn to pick!

      • Purplerockmatt

        your turn again

        • Roswulf

          Whelp, I called my shot, and now I have to take it (even if I’d kind of like to take Caleb instead).

          Give me the ultimate fan favorite, the roller of barrels, the follower of rules, the enabler of the worst of humanity, the GAME CHANGER-IEST GAME CHANGER OF THEM ALL, SIERRA DAWN THOMAS.

          • Purplerockmatt

            thank you for sparing me from a choice I didn’t want to make

    • Black Dynamite

      I’m here

      • Purplerockmatt

        Wow us with your pick

        • Black Dynamite

          I’m going with JT. He seems to be incredibly under the radar for a former winner. He’s charming and good for challenges. I think he’ll play a game closer to Tocantins rather than HvV (which except for one big thing, it wasn’t even that bad of a game).

          • Purplerockmatt

            I am jealous JT fell this far. Love JT

          • Purplerockmatt

            Lot of good choices still available! Time to make your second pick

          • Black Dynamite

            I’ll go with Ozzy. Not crazy about having two bigger names but I can’t pass up those points.

          • Purplerockmatt

            Done! Ozzy is yours

    • EmAndScoutInBK

      Here! And very excited.

      • Purplerockmatt

        and you have the first pick!

        • EmAndScoutInBK

          Noooooooooooooooo too much choice!!! I’ll be back in a couple hours with my pick! Sorry to slow the roll – I wasn’t prepared, guys! I wasn’t prepared!

          • Roswulf

            Sounds like a Troy pick to me.

            It is, after all, his island.

          • EmAndScoutInBK

            I would NEVER give him the satisfaction of being picked first in anything.

          • Kemper Boyd

            hey, over on the “staff draft” I’m putting together a 5 team league, you want in? One space left it’s me, roswulf, alycia swift and assistantdragon slayer.

          • EmAndScoutInBK

            YES!!! YOU KNOW IT!

          • Kemper Boyd

            boom, we are full. I need you to comment on that page so I can tag a comment for the draft

          • Kemper Boyd

            You got pick 5.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            No asking Barbara Anderson for help.

          • EmAndScoutInBK

            G-d, if only. I could use her magic

          • Kemper Boyd

            No, you’ll get burnt at the stake if they find out…

        • EmAndScoutInBK

          Alright guys – After debating it in my head for awhile, I’m going with Andrea. I think she’s smart, does decently in challenges, has a pretty good mind for strategy, and she’s just a likable person. She also won’t have the largest target on her back, comparatively.

          • Black Dynamite

            I like the pick. She was also my top choice for pretty the same reasons you stated. Also I think she is going to win.

          • Kemper Boyd

            This pick makes sense to me.

          • Mike Hirsch

            She was definitely in my top picks.

          • Purplerockmatt

            and now it is your pick

          • Mike Hirsch

            Taking Malcolm off the board makes things easier on me. I’m going for Aubry. I just like her and think she’ll be strong within this cast.

          • Black Dynamite

            I was hoping against logic that she would fall to the 8th spot.

          • Mike Hirsch

            I figured with Malcolm and Andrea gone, and having the “best of the worst” slot for my second pick, I should go with someone I both like and think will do well.

          • Purplerockmatt

            Aubry is yours!

          • Purplerockmatt

            she was one of my top two picks. Which means I’ll be taking Malcolm. Season of Malcolm everyone! This time he does it!

          • Black Dynamite

            I think he has the highest upside. Good pick.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Andrea was the only one I haven’t seen play before. I guess I’m glad I didn’t have a chance to not pick her and feel burned if she did well.

      • Purplerockmatt

        the draft is over and you were “stuck” with Ciera

        • EmAndScoutInBK

          How the hell did that happen?!

          • Purplerockmatt

            people went rogue and given the choice i’m certainly not picking her

        • EmAndScoutInBK

          I mean, out of all the scenarios, this is not what I would have considered the worst case scenario.

    • sharculese

      In the minds of the main mattering men, the speed-up before the slow-down will add the art to this artifice.

      • Purplerockmatt

        your pick

        • sharculese

          I came into this draft envisioning two worlds. In world 1, I pick Eternal Rainbow Princess Andrea. In world 2, I am robbed of that chance, so I yank the pin out of the grenade and pick Troyzan.

          What Im saying is, duck and cover, motherfuckers. This is my comments section.

          • Black Dynamite

            Wow. I never would’ve thought Troy would be gone this early. Em has been saved.

          • sharculese

            I burned early picks on Jenny and Paul the last two seasons. So fuck it, let’s roll the dice and see what happens. At least if he does well i have some solace now.

          • Black Dynamite

            I think he’ll go far so that could be more opportunities to get points.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Damn it! I was sure I’d get Troyzan! Oh well, I also had Paul last season so maybe you helped me out on that.

          • sharculese

            Im not gonna claim the thought of thwarting people who hoped to grab him late was s primarh motive, but if that pags dividends I wont bd unhappy.

          • Mike Hirsch

            My Outcast picks last year were Paul and Lucy. And I was at the turn! No excuse, other than I really had a good feeling about Lucy, and I also sing. My instincts are pretty awful, as it turns out.

          • Mike Hirsch

            Maybe that’s why I’m back, though. I’m a Game Changer for being so goddamned awful.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Like Ozzy!

          • sharculese

            Im pretty sure that at this point the idea is to have names lurkers will recognize in the rankings.

          • Mike Hirsch

            I’ll take “name recognition.”

          • Purplerockmatt

            we actually came up with amusing ways each of you was a Game Changer as justification after we chose the list, but I forget them. (Except Ems was changing our understanding of attraction exceptions and Alycia’s was “because we can’t have too many lawyers?”)

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            I probably brought a sense of humility to the game.

          • Purplerockmatt

            you changed the game by taking Rodney. Nothing was ever the same again

          • sharculese

            Paul still rules, though.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Hell yes.

          • Purplerockmatt

            you madman

          • sharculese

            If the Outcasts draft isnt more fun than the Champion’s draft, then what’s the point?

          • purplerockandy

            tbh, there’s little danger of that happening anyway.

          • sharculese

            Oh, I know. I read last season’s Champions comments. Doesnt mean I cant inject my own little brand of insanity.

          • Ms_Woozah

            Thank…you? And also whaaa?

      • Purplerockmatt

        we are in the home stretch. time for your second pick

        • sharculese

          Aw man, i kind of wanted Ozzy, just so I could be team smarmy douche. I guess theres Brad, but its not as funny.

          Y’know what, Ill take Caleb. Sure, he has the Big Brother stink, but his tribe seemed to like him and he was good in challenges. His only real mistake was almost dying. I he can avoid that maybe he can Fabio it to the end.

          • Purplerockmatt

            Caleb is yours. Hopefully he does not almost die this time.

    • Saturday Night Palsy

      Here. And in great company! This should be a fun season.

      • Purplerockmatt

        Every outcast league I have one question: who will torment Saturday Night Palsy for the season? Well? Who is it going to be?

        • Saturday Night Palsy

          Now I wanna pick Rodney.

          • Purplerockmatt

            I want you to pick Rodney too

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Tony didn’t murder his sister, did he?

          • Purplerockmatt

            Probably not, no…

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            I’ll pick him anyway. But it’s Rodney in my heart.

          • Purplerockmatt

            Alright Tony is yours

    • Mike Hirsch

      A hearty huzzah to you all!
      And, also, here.

      • Purplerockmatt

        Time for you to make the last pick, before I make the last pick before Em is left with whoever we two didn’t pick

        • Mike Hirsch

          BRAD GODDAMN CULPEPPER.

          • Purplerockmatt

            Dammit! I wanted Brad!

  • Kemper Boyd

    Anyone want to trade? Not Emandscoutinbk though. Don’t want #1 pick.

    • Roswulf

      I’d be up for a trade- I’m 6 & 15. I don’t have a well defined top tier, and I like being able to pick complementary mediocrities.

      • Kemper Boyd

        Let me mull? I’ll write my big board and see how I feel.

      • Kemper Boyd

        I’m going to stick. I get to pick two I want and not pick someone I feel panicked by. But of course I will not win so this doesn’t matter.

        • Roswulf

          Fortunately (for the rest of the league), I still ended up with a team that, at least in terms of previous Survivor experience, fully embodies the idea of “Complementary Mediocrities”!

    • Purplerockmatt

      you have two picks now!

      • Saturday Night Palsy

        Man, it’s almost one in the morning over there!

        • Purplerockmatt

          yeah we are probably waiting until tomorrow for Kemper’s picks

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            I feel confident that my second pick will be safe. Not cofident enough to post it, but still confident. Good news is I have something to look forward to in the morning.

          • Black Dynamite

            As the person picking after you, I’m intrigued. There are two people I’m interested and I would be surprised if Kemper doesn’t take both of them and shocked if she doesn’t take at least one.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Mine was once a lion tamer.

          • Purplerockmatt

            For the last time, Rodney is not playing this season!

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            If he ever comes back I hope we can do something similar to the SAVAGE league where I get Rodney and last pick.

          • Purplerockmatt

            just for you buddy

          • Kemper Boyd

            I imagine I didn’t and Palsy didn’t either.

          • sharculese

            Im waiting to see who’s left before I decide whether or not to do another insane thing.

          • Kemper Boyd

            Troy and Caleb would be quite the team…

          • sharculese

            There are a coupke of ways I can take this. Ill see which one is funniest to me.

          • sharculese

            I ended up taking Caleb.

          • Purplerockmatt

            now you get to see if your second pick is safe, because you are back on the clock

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Of course Debbie is still there! I really wanted Troyzan and Debbie but someone smashed that plan to kibbles and bits. I will have to be happy with Team Crazy: Tony and Debbie.

          • Purplerockmatt

            You are a madman. Debbie is yours. May your team rest in peace.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            I guess first place is peaceful.

          • Mike Hirsch

            This was unexpected.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Man, I wasn’t gonna choose her at all but I read this awesome article about her on the Purple Rock Podcast site this morning that totally swayed me!

          • Mike Hirsch

            My plan worked! Er, that is, to say, aw, why thank you!

          • Kemper Boyd

            Still there???

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Heck yeah!

          • Kemper Boyd

            Debbie?

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            I needed a jack of all trades.

          • sharculese

            I guess jackass of all trades is kind of close.

      • Kemper Boyd

        Ok, I’m still mulling, I weirdly didn’t get this disqus notification or I’d have done this on the train to work. So now I need a think.
        I don’t know if I want Sandra, I have her in all my other leagues, I love her muchly and deeply. I could get myself a badass physical team in Michaela and Ozzy. If I want Sandra and one physical threat who do I choose? I worry that Michaela didn’t get to see why Jay targeted her, that is a worry. Ozzy is a douche and is now in his 30’s, we call that the sweetspot for Survivor but is he the amazing physical competitor he once was?
        Do I want to leave Sandra on the board and then take a low key player like Absurdly Tall FFGCSDT? Not really.

        Team These Women Rule: Michaela and Sandra.

        • Purplerockmatt

          alright you got Michaela and Sandra

  • Ms_Woozah

    I’ll take Varner. Good chance he’ll flame out hard again, but I get a slightly different vibe this time around.

    • sharculese

      “good chance he’ll flame out again”

      *ahem*

      *checks room*

      *AHEM*

      PHRAAAAAAAAAAAASING

      • Roswulf

        Are we still doing that?

        • sharculese

          We damn well better be.

  • Roswulf

    Give me Hali. Because it is too early to go FULL Fan-Favorite-Game-Changer-Sierra-Dawn-Thomas, and Hali is a smart under the radar player on a tribe full of lunatics.

    Plus, there’s always a small chance that she mind-swapped with Jenn Brown.

    • Purplerockmatt

      I can dig it. Hali is yours.

      • Roswulf

        In a perfect world, I snag Sierra at 15 and have the least Game-Changer-y draft possible.

        Hali, BTW, has the possibly unique distinction of being ludicrously mislabeled by BOTH her seasons. A “no collar” law student, and a Game Changer who did nothing.

        • Alycia Swift

          I’d argue Sierra was also mislabeled based on the show’s own description. Sierra was a “no collar” not a blue collar (but than four of the six blue collars were not blue collar). She was a barrel racer. That’s entertainment. Should be no collar.

          Blue collars were described something like as “they built this country on their backs with their hard work with their blood, sweat and tears.” Mike – oil driller, of course. Kelly – cop, yes, blue collar unless she was in management.

          Dan – post office technician – he was not a postman, he fixed machines if I recall correctly – that’s pink collar (service). Lindsay – hairdresser – pink collar. Rodney – construction salesperson (though he told everyone he was a furniture mover) – white or pink collar.

          Just my rant because I was so annoyed by the show’s descriptions that season of the “collars”.

          • Roswulf

            That’s absolutely true.

            Which means that I just wrote a post about Sierra not being a Game Changer, and forgot about her by the second sentence.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Don’t call Rodney “pink collar”. You’ll spoil his birthday.

          • Alycia Swift

            That’s true … but where to “salesman” like him place?

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            How much does education count? Or long hours on the road? I don’t think he’s white collar but I can see your argument against him being blue collar.

          • Roswulf

            On the other, Probstian hand, Rodney IS a man who believes in following the rules.

            Specifically, those rules about celebrating Rodney’s birthday.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            In a perfect world he would have won that challenge on his birthday and for the reward they would have taken him to a carnival. Or a museum.

          • Alycia Swift

            Unless he actually performed the construction as well as sold it, then I could see an argument for being blue collar.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Did he ever work construction? Like when he was younger before he sold it?

          • Alycia Swift

            Don’t know but probably because who goes right to being a salesman in that profession unless he’s the boss’ kid. You have to know something about what you are selling I suppose.

          • sharculese

            What definition of pink collar are you working with? Ive always read it described as a professional path that reqires upper level education or skills, but is coded feminine – nursing, teaching, office management, etc.

          • Alycia Swift

            I’ve got the definition of “service industry” job – not necessarily as much education as a teacher or nurse but I’d put both of them in that category. That is why I put Lindsay there. Dan had to have some kind of education to fix those machines. I’d consider office management white collar.

          • Kemper Boyd

            Also wasn’t Tyler doing like talent shit? He was not White Collar really at all.

          • Alycia Swift

            If I recall correctly, he wasn’t an agent but rather worked at an agency as an assistant. He likely had a desk, probably worked semi-regular hours (9-5 – but who does that really anymore (especially in his business). The problem I had with the White Collar description is the description of them as “they made the rules.”

            I also read somewhere that Tyler was originally on No Collar but was moved because of Will Simms who at the last minute replaced a retired NFL player who ran a business (thus was white collar).

          • Mike Hirsch

            Who?

          • Purplerockmatt

            I think she means Tai but he wasn’t on that season…

    • Kemper Boyd

      You didn’t want to double C(S)ier(r)a?

      • Roswulf

        In all sincerity, I’m not willing to pick Ciera outside of name-based humor (or a last pick situation to avoid Debbie). Too much of an early target for perceived challenge weakness, and too much of a reputation as a dangerous player, without coupling that with ACTUALLY BEING a Survivor god..

        I genuinely like Ciera; I think she’s doomed.

        • Kemper Boyd

          I agree. She’s a likeable person and character but her survivor persona is big moves and she’ll be never shake it. Team C(S)ier(r)a is a rad team name though.

  • Kemper Boyd

    I feel like a lot of people in this league have gone rogue.

    • Purplerockmatt

      as someone with the second to last pick, I couldn’t be happier

      • Kemper Boyd

        It made 10/11 way harder than it should have been. Please record it as Team Awesome Women Who Rule.

        • Roswulf

          I’m not comfortale with your naming a team that when you passed over Cirie.

          I mean, Michaela’s awesome and all, but her rulership is untested. UNTESTED I SAY!

          • Kemper Boyd

            I had to have a challenge threat.

      • Roswulf

        Your team is looking like a monster, which means I’m sure you will have the first and second boots.

      • Saturday Night Palsy

        You need the perfect goat to go with Malcolm. Actually, looking at who is left, you have a good shot at having an awesome team. They wont be fun but they may be awesome.

      • Mike Hirsch

        Just looking at the remaining players, and it is impossible for me to get stuck with someone I don’t want. They may not end up doing well, but at least I won’t have a grudging second pick.

        • Purplerockmatt

          There are two players I don’t want left. But they are also not the worst, so I can live with one of them

  • Purplerockmatt

    I am taking Tai. I think he can last awhile as a goat-ish player if he isnt immediately targeted because of Kaoh Rong having 4 people around. Also I think Ciera is not long for this game so I am happy to leave her for Em

    • Roswulf

      I want to watch the season where your team cleans up, and Malcolm and Tai become bestest friends to the end.

    • Mike Hirsch

      I concur, also I took Brad because I don’t see anyone targeting him until around about five people left, and they look around and are like, “Holy crap, Brad? You’re still here? I thought we voted you out like seven rounds ago.”

      • Purplerockmatt

        that is why I loved Brad