Purple Rock Survivor Podcast: Heroes vs Healers vs Hustlers premiere “I’m Not Crazy, I’m Confident”

Let’s kick a new season off with some old school yelling at our fans for deigning to share their opinions with us.

Purple Rock Survivor podcast: Heroes vs Healers vs Hustlers Episode 1 “I’m Not Crazy, I’m Confident”

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In this episode, Andy and John discuss:

  • How ill prepared we are to discuss this season (suck on THAT, hustlers).
  • First impressions (like, actually first).
  • Chrissy’s heroic decision to do nothing.
  • How much must you suck to be a former Olympian who DIDN’T puke during a puzzle and cart ride challenge and still get voted out?
  • How Alan probably isn’t crazy, but… he sure seems like it?
  • Is Joe in the zero percent club?
  • Ryan sharing his idol information with Devon.
  • Puking, pushing themes, maze selection, searching for idols, t-shirts, stuff like that.

If you have questions or comments, @ us on Twitter, or send us an email (purplerockpodcast at gmail).

  • Diego Armando

    It should say Ryan sharing his idol information with Devon, not Patrick.

  • TheForRealDeal

    Between last season and Australian Survivor, I was surprisingly ready for some bog-standard Survivor.

    • Assistant Dragon Slayer

      How do you think I feel, having done maybe half the Australian Survivor recaps? I can’t say enough good things about this season (they would really have to botch the endgame–a distinct possibility–for this NOT to be a top 10 season) but it was weird to watch a season premiere feeling more burned out on Survivor than I ever have before, and seeing everybody bright-eyed and bushy-tailed in the liveblog comments section. And the premiere was so short!

  • Andy’s evil laugh 5 minutes in is a good sign that this will be a good podcast.

  • Ms. Sweaterfan

    I’m rewatching the episode before I listen to the podcast, but I have some new thoughts/revisions of my first impressions.
    First of all, I actually kind of like Mike. I felt bad for him when Joe confronted him, but I think he got intimidated when he should have used it as an opportunity to forge a bond. Rewatching the moment, I thought he should have owned up to looking for the idol, and then promised to tell Joe if he found it. He could have even offered to cover for Joe if Joe wanted to go searching. Who knows if Joe was rational enough to accept that, but just about anything would have been better than freezing up like he did. I’m not blaming Mike necessarily though, since Joe was kind of overly aggro about the whole thing (perhaps he forgot that he wasn’t in probation officer mode).

    The women this season are amazing, over all. The majority of them are strong, smart, or both. There are only a few who seem like pure chaff *cough*Simone*cough* I’m really hoping a woman wins this season, because the field is stacked and I would be happy with just about any of them at this point.
    I know I said Ashley was a villain in my original assessment, and I agree that she hasn’t actually done anything villainous. But she just kind of has a mean vibe about her, so I’m not going to totally backpedal that assessment. I’ll just say it’s a prediction rather than a reflection of anything she’s actually done yet.

    Others I liked better on the rewatch: Devon, Roark, Ben, Ali and Chrissy.

    • Super duper fan

      Let’s wait and see to make any final assessment on Simone. We didn’t get any airtime from her, and its lack doesn’t necessarily mean that she’s boring, but possibly that she develops a storyline later, or that maybe gets Lucy’d, who knows. For example, Natalie B was VERY invisible through a majority of the season, but then suddenly she talks about brushing her teeth with a jugular, plus shows that she’s a very capable player. I hope she will come out later, but for now, it sucks she didn’t get any storyline for now.

      • Ms. Sweaterfan

        This is fair. I would actually be thrilled if Simone turned out to be fun and/or a good player. Plus, just from the first episode there are a handful of people who seem like they’re ahead of her in line as probable early boots :/

        • the sky is falling

          To me, one episode is a bit early to form a complete picture. It’s pretty clear where many of them stand, personality wise, but that can change after they get a little more screen time.
          But I will need another episode to decide for sure that Alan is crazy in a bad way, Ryan is a creep, and Mike is getting set up for a growth arc to lose in the finals.

  • Max_Jets

    Alan as the second boot of the Heroes tribe? My edgic club meets every Thursday and we all have every other contestant eliminated as a contender. Alan has some flaws in his edit, but everyone else’s are just too damning to be able to win.

  • Alkanarra

    Those gimmick rewards are on point. Bravo.

    • Alkanarra

      And then I got to the outro song. Real A+ effort today, fellas.

      • If Cole and Jessica happens, then we probably get “Sexual Healing” next week.

      • Hornacek

        Who is that covering the Wallflowers?

        • Saturday Night Palsy

          That’s not right, dude.

          • Hornacek

            Billy Crystal: “My daughter just asked me ‘Dad, did you know that Paul McCartney was in a band before Wings?'”

            I knew the WF version was a cover, but this podcast was the first time I’d ever heard the original.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!

          • Hornacek

            I am serious – that *is* a Billy Crystal joke.

            Also, when growing up my knowledge of David Bowie songs started around Blue Jean. Later in life I’d hear some of his 70s songs but Heroes wasn’t one of them. it was when the WF’s version was released that I heard that it was originally by Bowie, but never heard it until today.

            I probably never would have heard Golden Years if not for the one-season Stephen King TV show of the same name.

  • Hornacek

    Haven’t listened to this yet, but come one, Joe has to go into the zero percent club. He’s Tony 2.0 (or would that be 3.0?). Tony 1.0 got put into the 0% club in the first (?) episode. It’s meant to be.

    • EmAndScoutInBK

      I hate Joe. I hate him so much.

      • Hornacek

        How dare he bully Dr. Mike!

  • Purplerockmatt

    Goddammit John, it was Matt Hasselback who said “we’re gonna take the ball and score” not Tony Romo. I hope you get fired for that blunder

    • From my understanding of the NFL, Romo usually falters in high pressure situations and everyone blamed Jessica Simpson for it.

      • Purplerockmatt

        this is true and has nothing to do with the line John quoted

        • Wait, that was a line? Also, I am shocked at all of us for not bringing up Elisabeth in a conversation about a Hasselbeck. I know it’s not her husband, but still…

          • Purplerockmatt

            Matt is Elizabeth’s husband’s older, better brother

          • I was going to say that Tim was more attractive, but that is also incorrect.

      • Hornacek

        Was this just Photoshop, or was there actually a game where the fans of the team Tony Romo’s team was playing (these sports terms are just words to me) had “masks” which were a picture of Jessica Simpson’s face on a stick? Because at a previous game JS was in the stands and Romo blew the game and people thought it was because he was distracted by her?

      • Ms. Sweaterfan

        For what it’s worth, my husband spent the entire Packers game last night ranting about the new idiot announcer who knew nothing about football, then at the very end he discovered it was Tony Romo.

        • Purplerockmatt

          I don’t know what your husband was watching because Romo was frequently calling the play before it happened.

          • Purplerockmatt

            This came out harsher than intended. point is I actually think Romo is good in the booth

          • Ms. Sweaterfan

            I actually thought Romo did okay too 🙂 My husband basically hates all sports announcers

          • Purplerockmatt

            Also I’m an Eagles fan, so this is very hard for me to say

          • Blurry Denzel

            Since you mentioned the Eagles, i was very upset watching the Giants/Eagles last week. If your rules state that Shepard TD wasn’t a catch, well, your rules are shit and need to be change. I know I should be grateful as a Giants fan because we’ve had amazing highs in my lifetime but this team is the most frustrating to watch. I hate football.

          • purplerockandy

            Football is the fucking worst.

    • I got Hasselbeck and Romo mixed up, Andy mistook Devon for Patrick. I think the only reasonable conclusion to draw here is that all white guys kinda look the same.

      • Purplerockmatt

        Andy’s mistake is understandable, confusing Survivor players on a Survivor podcast? Happens. But I expect you guys to get your sports trivia correct

        • sharculese

          What is sports?

    • purplerockandy

      I didn’t hear it as it happened because I think it was a crosstalk moment, otherwise, I probably would’ve corrected him and then he would’ve edited it out.

  • Diego Armando

    My only opinion on Chrissy’s move is _/(‘-‘)_

    I lean more towards John, but can see Andy’s point. My argument for the move is that voting out Ashley breaks the couple and thus Alan and Ben might need JP to break up the new power couple of Chrissy-Katrina and they target the more active Chrissy.

    In actuality, I don’t think it mattered what she did.

    • Max_Jets

      Targeting Ben would probably be her best move if she wanted to take full control, but he also seems like he would be a good ally down the line. I think appearing like a player that doesn’t make waves early on is almost always a good thing. If she’s able to get into a better position in more subtle ways (which I suspect she will be), then I think she made the right call.

      • Purplerockmatt

        Nah I agree with John and Andy that the move was JP. It isolates Ashley as the next target if Ben and Alan are open to you, or it means you go three strong women.

        • Max_Jets

          Ben seems to be the glue that holds Alan to the other two, so I think it’s more likely Ben sticks with Ashley and Alan than seeing Alan, JP, and Alan stick together as a trio. Either would probably accomplish the same goal though.

          • Purplerockmatt

            Nah Ashley and JP bonded before anyone else. Ben just wants to be with the guys

          • Ashley also wants to work with only the guys, but Ben seems a bit more amendable than Ashley.

          • Max_Jets

            Sure, JP leaving gives an opportunity for Ben/Alan or Ashley to work with the mom squad. Ben leaving gives every reason for Alan to split with Ashley/JP, other than tribe strength.

        • BadPlayer91

          I agree with that, but like I said above, I think her biggest issue is she didn’t prep for any of this. If she decided in the moment to go for JP, she would end up with 4 for Katrina, 1 for Ashley, 1 for JP, then she’s wasted it. She needed to prep before the tribal, and whether due to timing of her getting it or lack of understanding, she didn’t.

          • prettyboyprobst

            My impression was that she had barely enough time to read that whole instruction-scroll before they went off to tribal, much less to coordinate with anyone.
            So mark me down for ‘timing issue’ over ‘lack of understanding’.

        • That was my rationale. Though as I said, I think Chrissy still has options left even after letting Katrina go home.

      • Max_Jets

        Forgot to add, but I think it’s better that Chrissy tries to avoid tribal (by cutting Katrina) instead of risking a Matsing situation.

        • Ms. Sweaterfan

          I like her, but she’s definitely no Denise

        • purplerockandy

          I don’t think it’s a good idea for “weak” players to buy into the idea of “we need to send the weak players home”. You need to change that conversation.

          • Purple Rock Emma

            Like Queen Cirie.

          • Max_Jets

            She can change the conversation while getting the same outcome. She doesn’t need to focus on Katrina’s weakness with her pitch to get her out.

          • purplerockandy

            LOL at the idea that Chrissy gets to pitch anything to get anyone out right now.

          • Max_Jets

            Pfft, you just said she needs to “change that conversation” so “pitching” something is just a different way of phrasing that. She’s not going to control the vote, but she can try to throw the target on someone else. There’s also only 6 people on a tribe and days to talk to people. It’s not like she can’t get her foot in the door from the relationships she’s building.

          • purplerockandy

            If only she would’ve had some kind of powerful tool that would allow her to overcome people’s bias against her and force them to listen.

          • Max_Jets

            And then we’re back to a weakened tribe. I think there are better options than that. This might bring us to the end of our argument circle?

          • purplerockandy

            Yeah, probably.

    • Maritimer

      I don’t think it mattered what she did either, but I think its due to the specific situation and she’s going to get lucky. Either they don’t go to tribal as this group again or Alan has a total freak out and gets booted. Generally, I would tend to Andy’s side on this one

    • Ms. Sweaterfan

      I tend to think that Chrissy didn’t have very good choices either way. She’s lucky that she had the idol in case she’d been the target, but given how the vote went it was a lose/lose. I disagree that she would be better off using the idol on Katrina, because in that scenario she ends up most likely having to rely on Alan as her third alliance member, and he’s such a wild card. Sure she could have taken the risk of letting him know about the idol beforehand, but a little known fact from this episode was that Alan was actually exhibiting some paranoia about idols out there (I know, I know – it was hard to tell from what we saw).
      Sure, not playing the idol for her only clear ally appeared to leave her more vulnerable as a result, because she now apparently has no allies and is still considered the weakest link, but to be honest I feel like there was a lot we weren’t shown in this episode. For example, as Andy noted, her vote for Katrina would have meant that if she were in fact the target and had to play the super idol, her only ally would have gone home. Andy’s argument was that this was bad strategy on her part, but since I like Chrissy and want to give her the benefit of the doubt, I will instead assume that she either expected a split vote and was trying to edge Katrina out, OR someone tipped her off that Katrina was the target. If she was in on the vote, then of course she wouldn’t use her idol because that means she had made some inroads. Based on the preview for next week (stop reading here if you consider that a spoiler) it looks like Chrissy has developed some sort of relationship with Ben, so maybe she decided she was better off going with the majority. I mean, there are clearly some bigger fish to fry on her tribe, what with Alan “Crazy Eyes” Ball and the power couple still hanging around. They may have to vote one of those three out just to maintain some semblance of sanity on their tribe.

      • Max_Jets

        I wonder if all 6 votes were read or if Chrissy could ask Jeff what the last vote is. Imagine Chrissy playing her idol and then finding out the last vote was for her, only for her tribe to vote her out on the revote. I know production would prevent that situation – and she could also prevent it by actually voting for someone else – but it’s fun to imagine.

        • Ms. Sweaterfan

          Hahaha good point!

        • Sylvisual

          Probst usually reads all first votes for a person in order to build tension.

      • BadPlayer91

        It should be noted that Alan apparently sourced Katrina as why he thought JP and Ashley had an idol, so this created some tension toward Katrina, and may have tipped Chrissy off that the others would go for Katrina.

      • Chrissy not having good choices either way is the way I saw it too. She picked what I thought was the slightly better choice of two not so great choices. But that’s what happens when you’re playing from the bottom.

  • Maritimer

    I tend agree with you guys on pre-season content. I think the most we can learn from it is a) who’s hot, b) who has actually seen Survivor before and maybe, maybe c) a bit of people’s personality, if there’s something that sticks out. I kind of skim through it. I don’t really care what these people’s interests, hobbies, or life goals are. I just care how they play Survivor.

    • Alkanarra

      I’ve never bothered myself, but it is always funny to see people come in with such high hopes based on preseason stuff and watch their favorites turn into total duds.

      • Maritimer

        I started looking at pre-season stuff a bit when I started lurking here, which was Cambodia. But after the Mari debacle I laid back off the pre-season content other than flipping through pictures and what I learn in the comment section here and on Reddit

        • Alkanarra

          Mari gave me such schadenfreudic joy.

        • I am a decent Mari fan from her work on SmoshGames, but Probst’s lack on comments on her pre-season made me sure that she was the swap boot. I was only three boots off.

          • Maritimer

            It felt like we got a lot of Mari preseason, but maybe that was just us all talking about her

          • Mari was definitely one of those Millenials stereotypes because she has a career through playing videogames online. Add to that that she has a fairly sizable fanbase and she is much like BB19’s Christmas, except seemingly a better player.

          • Hornacek

            Probst hasn’t commented about Glozelle at all in the pre-season!

          • It makes me wonder if GloZell didn’t sign off or something, but then again, Mari didn’t mention Smosh.

          • Hornacek

            I feel bad that for a few months earlier this year, GloZell (really?) had to get her own coffee and wash her own laundry.

          • sharculese

            It’s a name and a herpes medication! Or at lest the name of a herpes medication.

          • Hornacek

            This is the weirdest name related to a player since Edna’s BareEASE.

          • sharculese

            Hi, I’m GloZell. You may remember me from when you had that rash on your junk.

          • sharculese

            It’s almost like the overlap between the Survivor fanbase and people who care about youtube celebrities is close to nonexistent.

          • Yet, they are clearly missing the YouTuber who is a big Survivor fan and would be pretty good on Survivor: JennaMarbles

          • indescribable hat

            Oh, Jenna Marbles. We loved her so and then she betrayed us.

            And then later there was a rumor she was on Survivor and I felt conflicted and then it turned out to be Will Sims and he was worse.

          • How did she betray us?

          • indescribable hat

            The slut video. All the young feminists on the internet were flipping out. Apparently it was in 2012 although I definitely remembered it as longer ago.

          • Oh yeah…that was rough. I think once she broke up with Max and got together with Julien, she kinda calmed down a little bit.

          • indescribable hat

            I left and never looked back at that point. I loved her videos before because I felt like she was poking fun at our misogynist culture, like she was in on the joke, but that one made me question my perception of the others.

            Anyway, I’m glad to hear that it’s not representative of her videos since then.

          • I am guessing (I haven’t watched her in a while).

          • purplerockandy

            Oh, is that who that one girl works for?

          • Yeap.

          • purplerockandy

            I’ve heard of her!

          • You watch a lot of Cinnamon Challenges videos?

          • purplerockandy

            I’ve never seen her work, but have heard of her. Did she interview Obama once?

          • Yes, she did along with Hank Green and Bethany Mota.

          • purplerockandy

            I figured that’s where I heard of her. Watched for Hank Green.

          • Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

          • Hornacek

            I really hope she makes it to the loved ones visit and Glozelle is her loved one. And she comes out with a selfie stick because she’s recording it all for her YouTube channel.

    • Purplerockmatt

      a) is very important, but we did know that Desi was gorgeous so we had that one covered

    • indescribable hat

      You can’t even tell reliably who’s going to be island hot! Maybe someone who looks good in the pre-season grows a weird scruffy mustache on the island and maybe someone else who seemed unremarkable looks good traipsing around in his underwear.

      My only use for pre-season content is scoping out fantasy teams.

      • Maritimer

        True. Unfortunately we can’t tell who may grow a sleaze-Stacie. But it at least provides us with an idea.

        That said, I did not tell from preseason that I would end up finding Jay as hot as I did

        • Assistant Dragon Slayer

          This is what it’s like in my brain:

          “Sleaze-Stacie? What? Who’s Stacie? Let’s see: Borneo, Fiji. Were they particularly sleazy, though? God, why do I have all this useless trivia in my head? I really need to get back to work….

          Ohhhhh… ‘sleaze-stache’. Like Malcolm.”

          • Maritimer

            Yeah, took me a while to catch that typo. There’s an argument to be made for Borneo sleaze-stacie, but that has to do with lawsuits, not looks

    • Ms. Sweaterfan

      I totally agree, but it’s hard for me not to participate in the preseason stuff because I’m always so excited for Survivor to come back XD

    • Diego Armando

      I mostly just look to see if someone sets off alarms in my head.

  • Purplerockmatt

    Holy crap diversity advocate made me laugh out loud. sorry office people

    • Felt pretty meta for Survivor to cast a diversity advocate.

      • Assistant Dragon Slayer

        The commitment to off-season laziness is admirable, but I hope Simone lasts long enough to bring what she brought to her pre-season interviews.

        EDIT: To be clear, I hope she lasts that long and not a second longer.

      • BadPlayer91

        Who they then didn’t show once…

      • Purplerockmatt

        I hope she advocates for diversity when they get ready to vote her out

  • The tagline on the shirt is so good and so true, guys!

  • BadPlayer91

    Gotta agree about Ryan. Not sure why, not sure for what reason, but something about him rubs me wrong. Though I didn’t go into the season expecting to like him much, based on his pre-season media. He marks me, as he has others have said, like a David without whatever it is that makes David so much more likable.

    Regarding Chrissy, I like her, and thus chose to believe she knew how to use the super idol. I guess where I land is that, there really isn’t a clear cut “This is exactly what she should have done” with regards to playing the super idol. Both playing and not playing it have good arguments. She plays it, removes one of the 4, and only has to flip a single person to get the majority. She doesn’t play it, remains 4-1, but doesn’t give them a rallying force against her. I would also point out that, the person who would have gone home, had she played it, was Ashley. This means that likely Ben and JP are going to be against her, and she and Katrina have to work with Alan, who left that tribal seeming unhinged. Maybe Chrissy weighed these options and decided, I feel better trying to work with Ben and Ashley than I would with Katrina and Alan. The one thing I would agree is that she did not prep for the tribal well after having gotten the super idol. Had she worked with Katrina, maybe even Alan or someone else, she could have made sure that the name that went down was the one she wanted, and put her in a place to come out of the tribal on top. Because she didn’t prep (and that may be because she didn’t have time to prep), she was basically weighing too options, neither of which was a clear cut winner IMO. The fact that we are all arguing about it so much being evidence of that.

    Also, Ryan apparently knew it’s potential as a fake idol, and that was part of why him and Devon were going to give it to Chrissy or Roark. Which makes me think that the scroll did provide that as an options, that the idol would not be removed following tribal.

    • purplerockandy

      I’m actually less mad at Chrissy for not doing something (because I do wonder how much time she had) as I am at everyone jumping up to say what a brilliant play her inertia was.

      • BadPlayer91

        That makes sense. I definitely ran the gambit of feeling like she made a huge mistake, to think she made a good play, and landed in the middle. I understand why she didn’t, I understand why she could have, but overall I think this won’t really impact her game or the season down the line.

        • purplerockandy

          My counter to the argument that this is too early to matter is that Chrissy is the type of player whose first week is one of the most important weeks, so waiting around for another opportunity might be too late.

          Which is to say: she’s in danger of going home long before any other opportunity presents itself.

          • BadPlayer91

            I’m not saying it couldn’t impact it. More saying that I think it won’t. Certainly it should, but I’ve got a feeling that in the grand scheme of her game, this won’t matter a ton. But that’s just my perspective.

      • Max_Jets

        This is funny, because I’m more neutral on her move (though still leaning in favor) but took the opposing stance because your confidence that she made the wrong move was unreal. I also think if I don’t have much of an opinion on a move, my initial reaction is to defend the player.

      • Violina23

        I don’t think it was brilliant, but I still think it was the right call. I thought she had more to lose than to gain.

        • purplerockandy

          And I think she had nothing to lose.

  • Ms. Sweaterfan

    Andy’s nihilism about actions being irrelevant to outcomes speaks to my icy cold heart

    • Assistant Dragon Slayer

      Andy’s icy cold heart is only metaphorical, not literal (that’s the origin story of your user name, IIRC).

  • Vagabond

    Is it just me or does this season seem to have a lot of players trying and failing to channel the personality of previous contestants? Not that the phenomenon is unique to this season, but it does seem especially pronounced.

    • Besides Ryan trying to be Cochran, who else do you see?

      • Vagabond

        Probation officer guy (I haven’t learned names yet my investment in this season is pretty low right now) is very clearly trying to be Tony Vlachos.

        • Oh yeah, Joe, duh

          Joe and Mike (or as Probst calling him, Dr. Mike) is what would happen had Tony and David Samson been on the same tribe except shittier.

          • sharculese

            Seriously, Probst, his full title is Penis Dr. Mike. Get it right.

          • I thought it was Sex Dr. Mike.

          • Hornacek

            Dr. Mike Sexier

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Specializing in “French style”.

          • I wonder how many times he just said “urologist” and had Probst tell him to say “sex doctor”, before he just gave in.

          • At least 10.

          • Vagabond

            So true. Incidentally, am I crazy if Dr Mike is my fav player coming out of the premier?

          • Yes.

          • Vagabond

            hey, low bar. Even Nicaragua has a least sucky person amiright?

          • Hornacek

            If Dr. Mike is your favorite player for more than 4 hours, consult a physician.

          • BadPlayer91

            This is a top notch joke. Well done.

    • Maritimer

      I’m not sure about trying so much as they were cast because they were similar

      • Vagabond

        A great example of it can be two things. But I’m guessing they were trying to channel those people in casting interviews as well

    • Hornacek

      Rob, Nicole and Corinne said that in the bios none of the women said that the former player most like them is Parvati, and that this was a first. I think Andrea was mentioned a few times (this cast had just watched the first 6 (?) episodes of Game Changers).

      • Someone said they watched Malcolm’s boot and before.

        • Hornacek

          Yeah, the Malcolm episode was the last one they saw before shipping out. They had no idea they should have been basing their game on Officer Sarah.

          • Which makes it even more bonkers that they based their game on Andrea because she is such an nonentity in those episodes.

          • Hornacek

            The ones that did mention her (maybe just 2 women? although I don’t think there was another women that was mentioned by more than one woman) described her as the total package – smart, good in challenges, and strategic. From what I remember, the only thing we were saying about Andrea in these early episodes was “Damn, she is good in the challenges!”

          • And “man, Troy is going to idol her out when he uses his idol”.

          • Hornacek

            #ClickClickClick

    • the sky is falling

      Pretty sure casting made them all pitch themselves Hollywood style as compared to a previous Survivor.
      For example Joe went with, “Tony, but with a goatee and more of a bully.”

  • sharculese

    Wait there’s cheese?

  • UseYourCommonSense

    I didn’t look at any preseason stuff either because I was too focused on Big Brother. The cast is bland and boring so far.

    I don’t think it was a bad move for Chrissy to not use the idol. Apparently, her and Katrina weren’t even that close to begin with. There is probably a lot to the dynamics we don’t know. From the preview, it looks like she will be fine.

  • Maritimer

    I just got around to reading Katrina’s exit interview and apparently she did tell them she was an Olympic swimmer

    • She supposedly told everybody on the boat.

      • Maritimer

        Ah. I wasn’t clear from it if she told them on the boat when Probst blew up her spot or if she just told her tribe later. But either way, they knew, and apparently just didn’t care.

  • NearlyNina

    I disagree with Andy. I do think not using the idol was the best play in that situation. I’m not against Big Moves, but I think she had more to gain in working a little social game finessing than in a balls to the wall fuck you move. Which is not to say that she can’t do Big Moves later.

    I also wonder how long she had after she got the idol, read the mountains of fine print, and filmed the obligatory confessionals about it,and before they left for Tribal. From editing it didn’t seem like a lot of time, so that could have influenced her decision to not share the info with anyone. Also why the hell would she go anywhere near erratic lying Alan at that point?

    Also, there were several mentions of Chrissy’s status as the mom character and, in particular, of how unlikely it was that she would get further chances to make a big move due to her station. But are we all forgetting about Carolyn? And other older “moms” who still made moves and took the future of their game into their hands?

    • I thought about Carolyn, but Carolyn was almost forced into that role at her first Tribal Council because she was on the block. However, she already had the idol and was able to establish a stronger relationship with Tyler because of it.

      • NearlyNina

        Right, similar to Chrissy she was a target t the first tribal. She didn’t choose to use her idol but instead focused on building interpersonal relationships including with Tyler and Joaquin.

        After the merge, however, she was likely in the power position in her new tribe but made a big move and flipped on Max. She then played a little quieter again until she flipped over to the Blue tribe and then into the Rodney et al alliance. I think Carolyn is one of the better examples of how to use Big Moves within a quieter more UTR relationship based strategy.

        • purplerockandy

          You’re right. Chrissy should be like Carolyn and save her idol for lat… waitasec.

          • NearlyNina

            Chrissy doesn’t need to save her idol (which she couldn’t have) to be able to make big moves later on, that was my point. Carolyn made a lot of moves and directed votes later on in the game regardless of her idol, and there’s no reason that Chrissy can’t potentially do so as well. She doesn’t need to leap at every Big Move opportunity that’s out there without analyzing whether it makes sense for her game play.

            Furthermore, making a splash at Tribal isn’t going to put her in that good of a position to make a new alliance with the other 4. There’s wildcard Alan and potential power couple and accused idol-holders Ashley and JP, so she has inroads. But both of these potential ins are a result of other players being perceived as untrustworthy and unreliable. If she plays a surprise idol that’s not going to engender trust between her and any potential allies. Her best option is to position herself as the reliable port in the storm that these players can trust and then use that to build strong alliances and make moves. Whether she has that in her is questionable, but we’ll see.

        • But unfortunately she was too much into being “Mama C” and not realizing that that could be lethal at the end and it was.

    • Ms. Sweaterfan

      Agreed! Just because she didn’t make ~this~ big move doesn’t mean she won’t make big moves later when the time is right.
      I also got the same impression that they gave her the idol with almost no time left to wheel and deal before tribal council. I wonder if they did this to try and make it more likely that the idol would get played in a shocking manner? Seems like if she’d had more time she could have used the idol to forge partnerships and sway the vote in a way that would ultimately make the idol play unnecessary. Kind of a jerk move by production, but I get why they would do it since this whole idol seemed designed to make sure it got played….lol at Chrissy’s massive middle finger to production, in that case XD

  • Vagabond

    @John for a second I thought you called your summer series “Fan Friction” during the podcast. For the record, I think “Fan Friction” has serious potential, think about it.

    • BadPlayer91

      He did, it does, and we did it. The series is “Survivor Fan Friction”

      • purplerockandy

        That title was John’s sole contribution to the series.

        • BadPlayer91

          And yet, had the biggest impact. That’s supreme minimalism.

          • purplerockandy

            It was like he came in all “Drop the “the”. Just “Facebook”, it’s… cleaner”. And peaced out.

          • Don’t make me cast the PRP staff as characters from The Social Network because I have already started on it.

          • BadPlayer91

            YEsssssss

          • Purple Rock Emma

            But there’s no token chick.

          • Assistant Dragon Slayer

            That makes you Rashida Jones. Take it.

          • Blurry Denzel

            Most times. I’ve heard people described as the “Ann Perkins” of the group and it never seems to be as a compliment.

          • purplerockandy

            There was a time on Slack that we’d just grab any grouping of pop culture people and assign each of us to them. I think Emma may have begged off of being the Ann Perkins of our our P&R group.

          • That’s not fair to Emma.

          • purplerockandy

            Remembered now: she’s clearly the April Ludgate.

            I’m not the Andy.

          • I was going to say Emma has to be April, no ifs and or buts.

            I don’t really think anyone on the PRP staff is an Andy.

          • When we did Friends, we were all Chandler.

          • I could see that.

          • purplerockandy

            I think Mark was Gunther.

          • Hornacek

            Would @SNPalsy:disqus be Gerry?

          • No, SNP is definitely Tammy 2…wait, I think I’m Tammy 2 and SNP is Tammy 1.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            I have no idea what you guys are talking about.

          • Don’t forget Rooney Mara, who dumps the Zuck at the beginning.

          • That’s true, but I don’t Emma inspired our Zuck to start a website

          • That’s where I had Emma. Not only the “token female”, but she seems to humanize the nerds around as well as being the audience surrogate.

          • Yes, there is.

          • purplerockandy

            Ironically, Mark is NOT Mark Zuckerberg.

          • Shockingly, that’s not where I had him.

  • Kemper Boyd

    https://twitter.com/purplerockandy/status/913568580964294656

    I think Andy is the one throwing out strawmen this season.

    • purplerockandy

      Heh. “This season”.

  • Roswulf

    I stand with Andy on the Chrissy debate.

    The downsides of what Chrissy did are pretty much the same as the downside of making a play (and isn’t that bad- she couldn’t be voted out no matter what). But making the move has an upside, whereas what Chrissy did has no upside. If Chrissy is good at Survivor, she can figure out a way to use a super idol when on the bottom. Build relationships, disrupt a relationship, gain trust, SOMETHING. She didn’t. And now she’s on the bottom of five.

    It probably won’t be fatal- the swap will come before they go back to tribal and/or Alan will be Alan. But it’s not good.

    • purplerockandy

      Look at that. Someone summarized my point efficiently without attacking people. Huh. Never occurred to me that it could be possible.

      So… THIS. This is what I’m getting at. Choose the option with the most potential benefit, as both options carry roughly the same risk.

      • BadPlayer91

        I still remain pretty split on it, but @Roswulf:disqus did make me think, I agree, If Chrissy was good, nay great, at Survivor, she could and should have made better use of an advantage in the game. However, at this point she’s been on the island 3 days, has no actual experience playing the game, and is still adjusting to everything Survivor throws at you. I’m willing to forgive her for choosing not to do anything. Even if playing it has better odds, i’m sure that in the moment choosing not do play would probably feel safer, particularly to a first time castaway.

        That being said, I think this twist would be better suited to a returnee season. Not that it could have saved GC, but what if Sierra had to will a super idol to Mana? I think that scenario better ensures the idol comes into play in the hands of someone who knows what to do with it.

        …Unless she gives it to Troy…

        • purplerockandy

          It probably would’ve taken out Sandra or some shit.

        • Here’s my counter: If Chrissy is good-nay, great- at the game, it might be socially rather than strategically. And maybe she’s not good at any aspect of the game, but she’s probably in a better position to judge her own strengths than we are.

          • BadPlayer91

            But the only reason we are here is to judge her strengths of her!

            Yeah, I agree with all of what you said. While I waiver on the pros and cons, I think the big takeaway for me is that this isn’t a clear cut move. The shear amount of discussion we’ve given to it shows that there was risk and reward with both options, and if we couldn’t all agree on a single move in days of comments, Chrissy couldn’t while starving and puking for a few hours.

            I do agree with what you said in the podcast, well done Survivor for making this much hubbub so early on. It may not have been a big, showy premier, but it did produce a ton of discussion and debate, which I think is great. While the GC premier felt so much more exciting, there wasn’t a ton of interesting strategy to break down afterward.

      • Mike Hirsch

        From the position she was in, there was no way she could be in a worse position by using the idol vs not using it.

        • Other Scott

          I disagree with this – if you use the idol on another player you’ve basically proclaimed that player as your closest ally, your ride or die. So the other 3 members may want to eliminate the potential pair before it becomes a problem, and yeah you bet the flashier less athletic person would be the first to go.

          Voting against the rest of the tribe also worsens your position in a potential swap.

          I’m not saying the move was like amazing, but I think the idea that by doing something it was impossible to put herself in a worse position is false.

    • Assistant Dragon Slayer

      Is she on the bottom, though? Or is she the swing vote between JPashley and Alan/Ben? (yes the situation could change, especially if Alan calms the fuck down, but I think we have to assume the status quo).

      • Roswulf

        I see no evidence of this- in particular of Ben being closer to Ben than to JP/Ashley.

        It’s possible of course, but I think any scenario other than KatrinaorChrissy being on the bottom is fan fiction. I think this is the stronest part of our Andy’s case- that the other four seemed to think of her as interchangeable with the woman who just got booted.

        None of which changes that fact that Alan probably goes next. Because…Alan.

        • Assistant Dragon Slayer

          I don’t think Ben is close to Alan per se, but if JPashley want to get rid of Alan and Ben wants to keep him around as muscle, voila they’re aligned and both sides are recruiting Chrissy.

  • Kemper Boyd

    Healing moment: Hi guys, I spent Saturday, Sunday and a bit of Monday puking and although I continued to puke, each time I puked I felt slightly better than before I puked.

    • Roswulf

      The Purple Rock Commentariat: Doing the Hard Research Even When the Actual Podcasters Don’t Bother With Any

      Also, sorry about the badness. Hope you are feeling better.

      • Kemper Boyd

        I had a full week of work with Norovirus. I am better now.

    • indescribable hat

      Yikes!

      I can confirm that puking for non-alcohol reasons also usually leaves you feeling better than before you puke. Why doesn’t John know this?

      • purplerockandy

        He’s never not hung over.

      • One of my weird super powers- in addition to being able to spot a Republican based on just a picture- is a stomach of steel. I’ve only thrown up twice in my life for non-alcohol reasons.

        • indescribable hat

          Do you have the power to bestow either of those on other people? Because I once flirted with a guy for a year without realizing he was a Republican, and my stomach’s not so great either.

          • Depends what super powers you’ve got available for trade.

          • indescribable hat

            Oh no, I remember all the trouble the superpower trading caused in Misfits.

          • Kemper Boyd

            I’d trade you my ability to time travel but then I couldn’t go back in time and now vom repeatedly last weekend…

        • Violina23

          I would be close to those numbers if it weren’t for pregnancy…

  • Blurry Denzel

    Maybe the answer is as simple as Katrina is just so awful to be around that she isn’t worth using a temporary idol for. I’m mostly kidding, I’m sure Katrina is a near lady. I think the Chrissy decision will be inconsequential to the game. I think she ends up in the same situation whether or not she plays it and if she doesn’t see herself working with Katrina in the future, then whatever. The real issue that should be ranted about on the podcast is that there wasn’t enough Desi in the episode.

    • purplerockandy

      I did consider the possibility of “man, fuck Katrina” being a motivation.

      • Assistant Dragon Slayer

        Katrina’s exit interviews (not canon yeah yeah) indicate that Chrissy was not interested in working with her at all. Which makes a certain amount of sense–if you and somebody else are being chased by a bear, kneecap the other guy. TBH, it also seems like Katrina was a bit much to be around 24/7.

        EDIT: And yeah, way too little Desi in the episode. I’m amazed you guys didn’t mention her at all.

        • Blurry Denzel

          I’m especially surprised (and disappointed) John didn’t mention her. Give us a Desi segment each week of her inevitable winning season.

          • Here’s my fear about discussing Desi: I’m going to end up saying something about Desi that gets my wife to shoot daggers at me- either with her eyes or with some homemade semi-automatic knife shooter.

          • Assistant Dragon Slayer

            Oh yeah, my wife has one of those things from when we were watching Mad Men.

          • It was like navigating a minefield when we watched Insecure or Masters of Sex.

          • StormofCuteness

            I hear you on Insecure. In fact, I watched without him so I could indulge in being attracted to almost everybody.

          • It’s not all of the women on there. But Tasha, though…

          • StormofCuteness

            Yes, well, the men are…oh my!

        • Wow, I’m rescinding your invitation to the Purple Rock Podcast commentariat camping-and-bear-watching trip.

          • purplerockandy

            I’m not sure if ADS is much of a bear anyway.

          • I’ve cycled through so many responses to this without landing on the perfect bon mot. Whatever, it’s Friday night, I’m off the clock.

          • purplerockandy

            Workshop it and get back to us.

          • You can do this. I have faith in you. It’s the role you were born to play!

        • Whoa… something that happened in real life that doesn’t make air on a reality TV show is called “not canon”

          Is my life “not canon”?

          *mind blown*

          • Assistant Dragon Slayer

            Lol we don’t all live in the Truman Show (yet). It’s just that almost all everyone paints themselves in the best possible light in exit interviews and some go further than that.

          • Max_Jets

            There’s a lot of truth to that, but it’s also silly to go in the opposite direction and completely disregard them (which you are not doing) because why would Katrina lie about that to make Chrissy look better?

    • DrVanNostrand

      Desi and Ali are by far the most attractive women this season, so I’m on board with that.

  • My only takeaway from the first episode and the first podcast is that I’m obviously buying a T-shirt.

  • indescribable hat

    I feel so touched that a fight I had with Andy got a podcast shoutout.

    • purplerockandy

      I will fight each of you one on one if I have to.

      • indescribable hat

        I would expect nothing less.

        • Assistant Dragon Slayer

          Y’know, if we all banded together for one vote we could get rid of Andy.

          • purplerockandy

            Joke’s on you. Too many people want to take me to the end.

          • the sky is falling

            He has an idol, better split the vote.

          • Kemper Boyd

            Let’s be honest, we need him for strength let’s take out Emma his right hand woman instead.

      • Roswulf

        Yes…”have” to.

  • indescribable hat

    Big Brother has made it harder for me to watch Survivor. My response to Chrissy’s decision is well, we only saw a fraction of what happened in the episode, so let’s see what the live feed watchers are saying about Chrissy’s relationships with everyone on her tribe! Oh wait.

    • UseYourCommonSense

      Lol yep I agree completely.

  • Mike Hirsch

    I once vomited on the side of a highway due to food poisoning after eating a bad 9-piece Chicken McNuggets (why did I keep eating them, you ask? That’s an interesting story). Glenn Frey’s “You Belong To The City” was playing at the time I had to pull over. I did indeed immediately feel better after puking. And then the song ended and I really felt good.

    Afterwards, there were some other food poisoning related issues I’d rather not talk about.

    Ryan reminds me of a guy in this band I know. The lead singer and guitarist, when they say things in between songs, they’re funny. This guy then tries to also be funny, but comes off as unsettling and kind of sad.

    • Now I want McNuggets. I often miss the point of anecdotes.

    • Saturday Night Palsy

      I puked once after eating mushrooms. That wasn’t fun.

      • StormofCuteness

        Were they the magic kind?

        • Saturday Night Palsy

          …um…

          …no?

  • By The Numbers

    There is something off putting about Ryan. He spends way too much time talking about his nerdness; seriously you are on Survivor wearing a turtleneck – everybody knows you’re a nerd

    • Maritimer

      He’s got a smug, superior smile. That’s what I find off-putting. He definitely thinks he’s better/smarter than everyone

    • the sky is falling

      He is more of a dork than a nerd or geek.

  • Launchpad McQuack

    Assuming the Super Idol appeared in last year’s advantage heavy season I wonder who would’ve ended up with it. My guess would be Tai finds it and gives it to Varner on the losing tribe. Ciera still goes home first

    • purplerockandy

      Are you suggesting that it would exist ALONG with Sierra Dawn Thomas’ advantage, or instead of it. Because if its instead of it, I don’t see any reason to assume anyone but her would find it.

      • Launchpad McQuack

        Probably instead of, though I completely forgot about SDT’s advantage. That whole season was a blur.

        • DrVanNostrand

          I originally read that as STD’s advantage and thought, “Well, that’s probably never an advantage”

          • Eye of the beholder and all that.

      • Yeah, my question with this hypothetical is “does she send it to Hali or Troy?”

  • purplerockandy

    It’s inspiring that so many of y’all think that the oldest player in the game will get multiple opportunities to improve her situation.

    • StormofCuteness

      Sexist? Ageist? I know you hate Survivor, but really…
      also, you’ve gone over to the dark side when 46 is too old to do well on Survivor.

      • purplerockandy

        Have you seen the rest of this cast? 46 is ancient on Survivor now. I wish it wasn’t, but history has taught me otherwise. Also telling me otherwise? The way the people ON THIS VERY SEASON were treating them like they were interchangeable, and disposable, moms.

        • Taako From Teevhii

          I can’t wait until you see the S36 cast (and please read that in super drippy sarcasm, I don’t want to go through this again in six months)

          • purplerockandy

            I’ve heard. No country for moderately old men.

          • I’m very excited for the 33 year old to be voted out for being too old and out of touch with the youths.

        • StormofCuteness

          So, all the people on here who have her on their teams and who aren’t agreeing with you, we’re all just cra cra, and you’re the only sane one who sees the truth? After one episode and no pre-show research?

          Here’s the bed you’ve made. Hope it’s comfy.

          It’ll be interesting to see who gets this right.

          • purplerockandy

            I’m not convinced pre-show research helps you see these situations MORE clearly. Nor would having her on your fantasy team.

          • StormofCuteness

            I’m not saying that they do, but your insistence that lots of people’s opinions are clearly wrong in opposition to your own isn’t exactly fact based.

    • Maritimer

      She needs one opportunity. Then she’s a non threat for like 10 boots

    • I’ve just decided that she’s going to win and am crafting a narrative, however implausible, in order to make that happen.

      • Saturday Night Palsy

        Kinda like you did with Aubry?

        • StormofCuteness

          Too soon!

  • Saturday Night Palsy

    So am I the only one who is rooting for Ryan?

    • Yes.

      • Saturday Night Palsy

        So this is what it feels like to be the villain of the PRP site…

        • Who’s more of a villain: me or you?

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Psssht! Me! You’re beloved around here!

          • Am I? If I recall correctly, people hate me for my dislike of Cambodia and my fantasy league skills.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Whatever. When it comes to witches, you’re more beloved than Glenda.

          • That’s so sweet.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            You know, that was pretty sweet. Maybe I was wrong about me.

          • You can be the Double D of the PRP Villains Tribe.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Ohh… kaay?

          • It’s either that or Randy….wait, you’re definitely Randy.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Randy? From Gabon?

            …howdareyou!

          • I was trying to think of the more anti-villainous Villains members. Would you want to be Coach?

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            My second (real) favorite player of all time? Do you even know how much Coach has done in his life?

          • Yes, he got fired from an university near me for lying when he went out for Tocantins.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            I guess that’s true. But the other stuff.

          • StormofCuteness

            Because I’m that person, it’s Glinda (the Good Witch).

            Spelling matters in names.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            I wasn’t talking about Glinda! Barbara Anderson is no Glinda! Barbara Anderson uses her powers for evil!

          • What the hell are you doing, SNP?

          • StormofCuteness

            I feel like I’m trapped in a very bad production of Wicked!

          • Violina23

            It’s Galinda. With a Guh.

          • Hornacek

            I thought you were loved for your knowledge of Survivor gossip.

          • “loved”

          • Hornacek

            Well, your previous comment said “hated” so I went for the opposite. Like George.

          • Go home.

          • Hornacek

            “I am home.”
            “Good, stay there.”

        • Other Scott

          I’d lean in to the skid and go full fan boy on him. I’ve learned from experience this is the best path forward.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Rest assured that I’m already doing that.

    • StormofCuteness

      He’s on my team, and I liked him before everyone kept telling me he’s a Republican on Reddit. Then I got scared that I have no ability to judge people based on bios and short videos. But I’m keeping him because I still feel certain he’ll do well.

      • Saturday Night Palsy

        That isn’t rooting either.

        • StormofCuteness

          Remind me to never try and make you feel like I might be on your side about something again.

          Or don’t. 😐

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Sorry. If you want, I’ll let you be my henchman.

          • StormofCuteness

            Pfft, I eat henchmen for breakfast. 😉

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            The doctor said no red meat for me.

    • He’s staying on my Pick 4 team because the show is telling me to invest in him.

      • Saturday Night Palsy

        That’s not rooting.

        • It sorta is because he may be my ticket to staying in Champions.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            That’s right! You’re still in the Champs League! Hey, tell John I said hi.

          • Dude, that’s rough.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Villains gotta… villainise?

          • Wait, is John Ciera in this Tony vs. Sandra stand-off?

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Based on last season’s Champs League he’s more like Caleb.

          • I think a lot of us were like Caleb in Champs League.

    • Roswulf

      I’m rooting for his turtleneck!

      • Saturday Night Palsy

        He isn’t circumcised?

        • BadPlayer91

          MY GAWD. This comment is winning in a world of winning comments.

        • His nickname is Hooded Monk.

    • Super duper fan

      It’s too early for me to know exactly how I feel about him right now. By as of right now, I would probably say he’s my no.2 favourite male on the season only behind Ben, so you could say that I’m rooting for him.

    • gouis

      GET HIMMM!!!!

    • If I had only seen the episode and avoided all preseason coverage, I would be. As little as I paid attention during the preseason, I saw enough to make me not like him.

  • DrVanNostrand

    As the resident Packer fan (and Owner), I feel the need to correct John on the “We’ll take the ball and we’re gonna score” quote. It was Hasselbeck and the Seahawks against the Packers. Also, even before the new overtime rules, there was a negligible statistical difference between receiving or kicking in overtime. With the new rules, it probably matters even less. So that’s a bad analogy if Andy wants anyone to care about Chrissy’s move. The analogy actually suggests that her move was mostly inconsequential.

    • Yes yes, I’ve already been scolded.

    • purplerockandy

      Obviously, who receives the ball MIGHT not matter. But you’re a wimp if you don’t fucking try to score first.

      • DrVanNostrand

        If your argument is that Chrissy’s move lacks style points, but ultimately doesn’t matter very much, then I’d say you picked a good analogy.

        • purplerockandy

          My argument is that statistics don’t much matter if you’re the one who lost.

          • DrVanNostrand

            I don’t even know what you’re talking about now. If you’re trying to use the NFL overtime kickoff to make any analogy to Chrissy, it doesn’t seem to be working.

          • purplerockandy

            Probably not.

          • Mike Hirsch

            I think I get it: basically, take any advantage you can get that helps your winning chances.

          • purplerockandy

            The Pats fan gets it.

          • Mike Hirsch

            I mean really…that should be a given, people.

  • Mike Hirsch

    Wait, what? Why the hell do I have the option to get this shirt in anything other than purple?

    • Taako From Teevhii

      Follow up question: Why the hell aren’t all the options purple? I’d love a tank, but it’s not available in purple.

      • Everyone is asking all the right questions here.

        • purplerockandy

          Here’s the truth: when I was setting this account up, I chose purple options and considered not even offering things that didn’t come in purple. When I was done, I discovered that all I was selecting is what colour showed up in the default view, and everything else comes automatically.

          • StormofCuteness

            You fought the good fight.

            I got mine in purple!

          • purplerockandy

            Fight the good fight.

          • Mike Hirsch

            Every minute, every day.

    • purplerockandy

      I wished that weren’t the case, but we can’t control that. Those are the styles available on Redbubble, who apparently offer to print our design on anything.

      My hope is that no one will choose anything but purple for clothing styles that offer it.

      • BadPlayer91

        Given that my favorite color is purple, and I spend a fair amount of time arguing with my boyfriend about how I want more of our stuff to be purple, I promise not to order in a different color.

        • StormofCuteness

          Our wedding colors are purple and silver, and my engagement ring was a purple sapphire. Purple is my happy place.

          • BadPlayer91

            Yas!

            Tonight I’m going to a Beyoncé themed Bingo event, and chose to wear a purple shirt cause I gotta look my best for Bey. So, I’m right on brand.

          • StormofCuteness

            Beyonce Bingo?! Sign me up!

          • purplerockandy

            Ours were purple and yellow. Which I swear wasn’t just because my favourite basketball team is the Lakers.

            (It’s also because I liked the Vikings).

          • StormofCuteness

            Is any of this true? *suspicious*

          • purplerockandy

            All of it. It helped that my wife also liked those colours.

          • StormofCuteness

            Sweet!

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            The Lakers? Gross.

      • Side Character

        I was thinking about getting it in white so you couldn’t see the “We ARE here to make friends” part. But then no one would understand when they see the shirt.

    • Saturday Night Palsy

      I’m totally getting it in black. Like the elimination rocks.

      • Mike Hirsch

        I feel that would be a decent troll.

    • StormofCuteness

      Where can I get a t-shirt? I am bad with knowing things.

      • Saturday Night Palsy

        You get a free one if you win one of the fantasy leagues.

        • purplerockandy

          Because we force SNP to buy you one.

        • If you win, I’ll send you one. A black babydoll version in size XS.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Awesome! I’ll hang it on my winners wall next to the frame that was supposed to hold my diploma.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Awesome! I’ll hang it on my “Winner’s Wall” next to the frame that was supposed to hold my diploma!

      • purplerockandy
        • StormofCuteness

          I have bought one! I know redbubble isn’t PRP, but holy shit, their fitted women’s tees are small. I had to get a unisex. So many indignities to being fluffy. 😕

          • indescribable hat

            Yeeeeah those chest measurements are tiny. It’s like no one told them that women frequently have boobs.

          • StormofCuteness

            Right?! I think 2XL was 39 inches which I was as soon as puberty hit hard at 15.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            It’s not the chest that I’m worried about being tight on mine.

          • But shirts don’t have a crotch…

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            I have a different way of wearing them.

        • Mike Hirsch

          I went with the Classic t-shirt. I immediately clicked on “What’s my order status” after ordering. I hope that Redbubble gets a record of that and understands how demanding I am.

        • Saturday Night Palsy

          Where’s the one with “Except with Saturday Night Palsy. F*** that guy”?

    • Hornacek

      The color options should be purple, light purple, and dark purple.

    • Saturday Night Palsy

      So you can get it on a red turtleneck.

  • Violina23

    I can’t listen to the podcast until the kidlets are back in school, but I just want to say that I don’t even like hot beverages and I TOTALLY want a PRP mug

  • Ms. Sweaterfan

    Just had to pop in to say that every time I attempt to venture elsewhere on the internet, I’m reminded why I love this site so much 🙂
    I went to a new subreddit (not r/survivor) to ask a completely innocuous question and immediately got downvoted for my trouble >:[

    • Diego Armando

      What happened?

      • Ms. Sweaterfan

        I just posted a pretty simple factual question on r/genealogy and got downvoted without comment, so I’m not even sure what I did wrong. It was only 1 downvote though, and I got some very helpful responses after that so maybe someone was just cranky overnight 🙂

  • Oh Andy, my brother in Boston Rob love, I could not disagree with you more on the Chrissy move. I agree that in a vacuum playing it makes sense, but this is an unusual tribe. It’s a tribe of 6 and between the power couple and the guy who was extremely paranoid about idols I think it isn’t as clear cut a decision as you’re making it out to be. Chrissy is playing from a weak spot and I think her choice was to make a meh move (unanimous vote against Katrina) or a flashy but dubious move (play the idol to save Katrina and send someone else home). I say this only because I want to establish that I am not one of your strawman OMG WHAT AN AMAZING MOVE people. I think she read the room right. She strikes me as a social player and I think she saw better social opportunities with Ben and Alan than she did with Katrina.

    If she played the idol I agree JP was the right boot choice, but that means she has to rely on Ben’s choice of either “Join up with the Moms” or “stick with Alan and Ashley” and that seems risky too. Yes, now she has to convince two people to join up with her but playing the power couple against paranoid Alan, or helping Alan to split said power couple up seem like more enticing options to offer up than “Hey Ben, play with Katrina and I because… I don’t know?”

    Neither choice was a great one IMO but I disagree that just because she didn’t play the idol doesn’t mean she’s not playing the game as best as she can right now.

    I am so happy Survivor is back and I have you guys to listen to now. Hope this is a good season…

    • purplerockandy

      I’ll admit that seeing people praise what was, at best, an acceptable play, is what really set me off.

      • I mean the episode didn’t give you a ton to work with. Much like Chrissy you had no really good choices. Unlike Chrissy I agree with your choice to come in hot.

      • Much like Chrissy this episode did not leave you with many choices. The choice to come in hot was a good one.

    • Alycia Swift

      I agree with your post. The other thing is that she now has a fake idol that she might think about telling everyone immediately – she can say she found it – and she might stop others from looking. She gives herself time to find the real one. It is risky in that if she fails to find it … the others could vote for her to try and flush it.

      • I’ve seen some people talk about planting the idol in Ashley or JP’s bag in order to confirm Alan’s suspicions and sow more dissention. That could be a good move.

  • EmAndScoutInBK

    Joining the party late! Nobody is probably going to read this, but commenters gotta comment. I’m ready to enter Chrissy wars. I think Chrissy should have played her super idol for only one reason – numbers. Once she plays it, she knocks of JP (presumably), and now it’s 3 v. 2 instead of 4 v. 1. Now she only has to sway 1 person instead of 2 to gain the majority. The only reason, in my mind, not to play it is if Katrina isn’t actually all that solid (if that’s something we didn’t see).

    Also, I’m really angry about Joe being on the healers tribe. THAT IS NOT A HEALER JOB.

    • StormofCuteness

      I read this comment! Also, reading exit interviews, Chrissy wanted nothing to do with Katrina…so

    • Violina23

      I’m reading this!

      I think Chrissy did the right thing. Everything in survivor is an evaluation of risk/reward and I think she had decent odds of either
      1) not going to tribal
      2) convincing them to vote out the crazy.

      Either way, she has a better chance of going back to laying low for the better part of the early game, which is probably smart for a “mom” who puked in the first challenge.

      If she uses the idol, she creates distrust with a group that is already excessively paranoid. Being that nobody really knows each other, she is an easy target and has little gameplay behind her to convince anyone otherwise.

      The reward of using the idol (3-2 instead of 4-1) is precarious at best. I just don’t see that as being worth the risk of being branded a schemer when she doesn’t have much else to stand on yet.

  • StormofCuteness

    What with Vegas and Tom Petty, today really sucks. (Not to mention personal life stuff as well).

    I could use a PRP hug.

    • indescribable hat

      I found out about Tom Petty from this post. Really wishing I’d gone to that concert I was thinking about going to this past summer.

      Please accept this hug from me and my dog who is refusing to appreciate Damn the Torpedoes with me.

      • StormofCuteness

        Oh no, I’m sorry, but my goodness do you give good virtual hugs! 💜💜💜

        • indescribable hat

          It’s my lousy facebook friends who are too cool for Tom Petty who should apologize.

          • StormofCuteness

            But at this moment, we still have hope…and I’m clinging to it.

          • indescribable hat

            Whoa, you’re bringing me all the news today. I saw some of the incorrect headlines earlier and missed the correction.

          • StormofCuteness

            😭 This fucking day.

  • Also can I just say that as someone who thinks the number of advantages/idols has gotten a tad bit out of hand part of me was very pleased with the fact that this Episode 1 Idol was a complete non factor.