Season 34 Casting Rumor Discussion Thread

Martin (Redmond) Holmes of Inside Survivor has released the first list of contestants rumoured to have attended finals for Season 34. If you’d like to participate in discussion of the list of names, you can do so in comments here.

To see Inside Survivor‘s list, visit their site: http://insidesurvivor.com/rumored-survivor-season-34-cast-11495

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  • andythesaint

    No Michele?

    Bullshit.

    • Saturday Night Palsy

      She’s about to win a million dollars!

      Bullshit.

    • gouis

      Bro, I know.

    • Hornacek

      I like consistency.

  • patti renshaw

    No Wentworth either ? Glad to see mama c on the list

    • sharculese

      Wentworth went from being viewed as a non-entity to being one of the most praised young female players ever. I wouldn’t be shocked to find that she’s happy to rest on her laurels and not try to mess with that legacy for a minute.

    • Other Scott

      I think the theme for the season is Survivor: All Stars Who Were Not On Cambodia

    • Mechanical Shark

      wentworth has a job thing that she’s already committed to, apparently.

  • ExtraLargePelican

    Wow, seven winners (Earl, Danni, Sophie, Sandra, JT, Tony)? That’s… a lot. Perhaps too many.

    • Saturday Night Palsy

      And Mike. I wonder if they would all band together…

    • Jacob SW

      More than seven: Earl, Danni, Sophie, Sandra, JT, Tony, Mike Holloway, and Natalie Anderson makes eight. (Nine if you count Sandra twice!)

      I definitely do not think that’s too many. For years, I’ve been advocating for a “Winners vs. Near Misses” season– the greatest players to win vs. the greatest players never to win.

      Looking at the other possibilities, I don’t think this is quite my dream season– but it certainly feels like “Winners vs [SOMEBODY ELSE].” On Reddit, some people are speculating it’s “Winners vs. Jury Members vs. Early Boots.” It’s not exactly what I was hoping for, but if we end up with Earl, Danni, Sophie, Sandra, JT, Tony and/or Natalie A on a single tribe, I will still be very psyched.

      • andythesaint

        Tai or Debbie will equal nine.

        • andythesaint

          Tai or Debbie or Aubry will equal nine.

          • Mechanical Shark

            hahaha, I hope so. at this point, I think a Michele win would seriously mar Kaoh Rong.

          • What do you think now?

          • Mechanical Shark

            bumps it down from top ten to mid-tier.

          • I think I am on the same page with you, but I have not seen that many seasons.

    • gouis

      Why? They’ll cut it down to like 4 or something. 2 per tribe is reasonable and what they did on HvV.

      • sharculese

        Yeah, but like half of this list is winners. Unless we’re getting a very unrepresentative sample, something is up.

        • Purplerockmatt

          could be winners vs not

          • gouis

            Either way having winner returnees makes for better discussion. I mean think about how different the consensus on JT would be without HvV.

          • JT’s letter was defensible, dammit!

          • gouis

            Hey man, I think he’s one of the best winners ever. So you’re preaching to the choir.

    • turgid_legume

      I want lots of winners. It defuses the “we need to vote them out, they already won, I deserve it more” idiotic mentality.

  • Smocke55

    EARL COLE GET HYPE THE KING OF FIJI MOTHERFUCKERS

    ALSO OZZY LJ WTF

  • I can only assume they’ll reveal Bob Dogg and Kourtney Moon’s names later, just to ratchet up the excitement for the season.

    • gouis

      Is it possible to get a virtual restraining order? Asking for a friend.

    • I cannot believe that you forgot Brian Heidik in that list.

      • I only had Brian Heidik on my list to disturb Emma when I placed him on a fan-casted Beauty tribe (and it was very successful). I’m not a huge Heidik fan. You should actually be surprised I didn’t include Burton. Stupid, sexy Burton.

        • I get that logic on all account. Did Burton age like Savage?

          • Purple Rock Emma

            And how!

          • Must resist Googling Burton
            Must resist

          • Give in to temptation.

            From what I’ve seen of Danni, she’s held up quite well too.

          • Danni does look good. In fact, Danni looks the same to me.

  • Mike Hirsch

    I could go for three fewer Worlds Aparters. But, Earl! Earl, man! And…wait, Peter, seriously?

    For some reason Natalie Bolton’s presence makes me the happiest.

    The reaction that hit as I scrolled past Ozzy’s dumb face kind of rolled over me in slow motion: “Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh…noooooooooooooooo.”

    • Jim

      What does Natalie B appeal to? If you remember, she was invisible for the first 2/3rds of the season basically, and the rest of the time, she was just a number of the BWB, and making awkward, cringey lines, faces, and some generic strategy talk. She’s not in contention for anyone I want to see return.

      • Mike Hirsch

        It’s just personal preference. I liked her style of crazy.

    • Ms_Woozah

      Very happy about Natalie Bolton. Her manipulation of Erik and blatant flirting with Parvati made me want to see her back.

  • gouis

    Poor reddit, they must be apoplectic that Danni is on there but Chris is not.

    • Smocke55

      I musn’t have seen that among the 800 + comments celebrating Danni’s potential return.

      • It’s more a running joke about Reddit’s love for Chris than anything actually having to do with Danni.

        • Smocke55

          I got that.Imo Danni was a better player but Chris was a better character BY FAR.His post merge narrative was incredible and the FTC was brilliantly brutal.Danni,by hiding her strategy turned the story of Guatemala from a potential “How Danni won ” narrative to a “How Steph lost” narrative.So I ,as well as most of r/survivor think that Chris was more compelling,so you’re bound to see a lot of love thrown his way.

    • Jim

      Chris would be more appreciated, but Danni is similarly loved, and why not, first original Guatemala.

    • I think even if Chris is finally off Probst’s shit list, Chris is MAJORLY out of shape. If you thought Varner was bad, Chris is nearly unrecognizable.

  • Other Scott

    I’m so thrilled for this cast. There’s only like 4 people I don’t want to see, and all but one probably won’t get on.

    (It’s Chelsea, LJ, Carolyn and Marty, by the way.)

    And there’s so many of my random favourites: Jon Misch, Monica Culpepper, Hali, Peter, plus all the winners who I want to see again.

    • Alkanarra

      I’ll go to bat for Chelsea. While she made some blunders, she did at least have a strategy: let Kim build the personal relationships, let Kim make a final-three deal with everyone guaranteed to piss people off, and let Kim double cross them. She assumed the jury would be more bitter with Kim and would perceive her — who intentionally didn’t build those relationships — with less hostility but still recognize she was part of the strategy. Of course Kim being Kim that didn’t work out for her, but I’ll give Chelsea credit for at least having a plan.

      • Yeah, it’s hard to properly evaluate how good Chelsea was when she’s in Kim’s shadow. Andrea turned out to be a decent player her second time, but you would have never known she was good while watching Boston Rob destroy everyone in RI. Also, if you need sex appeal, Chelsea is a good addition.

      • Other Scott

        I guess that’s fair. I’m just not sure what else she has to offer as a Survivor contestant. She’s almost certainly not going to be one of the better players, and I find her not remotely entertaining either. She was just kind of cold and distant the whole time.

        • Alkanarra

          I’ll agree, but to her credit she’s mentioned in interviews that she’s aware those were her problems. Her having some cognizance of her flaws makes me think a little more positively about her chances. Also, I assume some of Kim’s midichlorians will have rubbed off on her and she’ll be able to use her mentor’s Jedi mind tricks to her advantage.

          • I’m just rooting for a scenario where Natalie Bolton, Chelsea, and some other woman (Alexis, Andrea, Sarah, whoever) lead a women’s alliance against Troy. That’s the only way I’m cool with a Troy return.

      • Something Quirky

        I was also excited to see her on that list.

    • When I saw Jon Misch, my first thought was, “Well, I know exactly one person who will be thrilled to hear this news.”

      • andythesaint

        Nice that he checked his voicemail this time.

        • Kemper Boyd

          I think they probably wipe him a letter, texted and set up sky writing to make sure they got him.

    • Purplerockmatt

      it’s a good cast and most of the people I don’t like are on the men’s side adn i fully expect more to be added there

    • Mike Hirsch

      I almost want to defend Marty. But, then again, nah.

      • andythesaint

        Marty became alright with me once he started going on RHAP and talking about how his season sucked.

        • Mike Hirsch

          My whole thing about Marty is he was one of the few people that season actually trying to play the game. So from that standpoint, I’d be interested to see how he’d do on a season that wasn’t populated by a slew of terrible people who don’t play the game well at all.

          • sharculese

            The thing about Marty was that as arrogant as he could sound, he was 100% right that Jane was a sympathetic character who you maybe shouldn’t take to the end.

            So when he’s constantly trying to put a target on the sympathetic character who also gets a ton of screen time because she’s constantly doing kooky things, it comes off looking a lot worse than it really is.

          • Smocke55

            He was one of the few people that the edit showed was “playing the game”.You don’t have to give 200 confessionals about numbers and #bigmovezz to be playing the game

  • gouis

  • Kemper Boyd

    No Jenn but Hali? Not that impressed. I don’t need to see anymore Monica talking about Monica.

    • Alkanarra

      Jenn is right up there as one of my favorites, but let’s not forget Miss ‘Murica was adorable in her own way.

      • Mike Hirsch

        Was she? I honestly don’t remember much about her. Was she the blonde-haired guy who didn’t say or do anything?

        • Max_Jets

          I think Hali was great and would have been a serious contender to win if the season had played out differently. Michele reminds me of Hali, but apparently that is an unflattering comparison for Hali :/

          • Purplerockmatt

            hey hey hey don’t mess with Hali like that

        • Alycia Swift

          Well she did not want to quit like Jenn did.

    • Hornacek

      How many fucks does Jenn give for not being on this list? That’s right, zero.

      • Kemper Boyd

        That’s why I love Jenn. Zero fucks for all.

    • She’s a neat lady.

    • sharculese

      Probst considers Jenn a quitter, so I’m sure he aggressively filibusters any attempts to bring her back.

      • Hornacek

        Like he filibustered against Colton returning?

        • Other Scott

          If anything Colton gave Probst more ammo for his filibustering

          • Hornacek

            So we suffered through Colton in BvW for … The Greater Good?

          • andythesaint

            The Greater Good

          • Hornacek

            Shut it!

        • sharculese

          I get the impression that Colton and Julie made Probst a lot more vocal about players he has a bad feeling about. Although apparently he was vocally anti-Caleb, so his power isn’t infinite.

          • Hornacek

            Every season I want Jeff to look at the camera and say “I have a bad feeling about this.”

      • Other Scott

        I thought Jenn was a pretty good character out there, but just from her last few days and post show stuff, she seems like a bit of a poor sport.

        Plus she got on the wrong side of Rob C. How do you get on the wrong side of Rob C?

        • sharculese

          Wait, what did she do to Rob?

          • gouis

            Whatever it is I kind of take Jenn’s side. Rob has no chill.

          • Other Scott

            I don’t know the details because I’m not a patron, but it was something to do with her getting too drunk at live know-it-alls for Rob to let her on stage and she took a lot of offense to it. Rob then proceeded to semi-trash her on the next patron cast.

            I may have some facts wrong but that’s the basics of it.

      • Roswulf

        I think considering Jenn a quitter is silly (insofar as she…didn’t quit), but assessing her as a serious quit risk makes sense. I can totally understand concluding that the chance she declares “This is bullshit, I’m out” is too high.

        • andythesaint

          More than full on quitting, I think Jenn might have a tendency to quit being entertaining once she hits a point in the game. And if that’s the case, what’s the point?

  • indescribable hat

    What??? I really like this list. I thought we were going to be waiting longer for another returnee season. Fingers crossed for Sophie and Cirie!

    • Kemper Boyd

      Sophie and Cirie would be good.

      • gouis

        I’m kind of against Sophie. She wasn’t interesting the first time, and now she spends her time as a ‘doctor’ schilling for Dr. Oz and actually harming people.

        • sharculese

          I’m about as big of a Sophie fan as there is, but I’ll concede that her career choices are indefensible.

          • gouis

            I think Andy said before that he doesn’t judge people for how they pay the bill, and I mostly agree. However she’s in the one profession that actually makes you take an oath, and then blatantly defies said oath.

          • Max_Jets

            I don’t think she works for Dr. Oz anymore, if that helps at all.

          • Is that how Eliza and her dog got on the show a couple years ago?

        • Kemper Boyd

          WHAT? Is that what she does? I’m in the UK so I see nothing. I’m interested in how a player like Sophie who played well at 21, (she played the only game I think she could have played to win South Pacific), will play in her mid-late 20’s.

          • sharculese

            Her job was something like producing videos on health topics for his website, so it’s very possible she was only doing things that were science-based, but the taint of association is still there.

          • Kemper Boyd

            Well ok, that’s annoying. Did she actually go to medical school?

          • sharculese

            Yeah, she was in her first semester when South Pacific was airing.

          • Kemper Boyd

            Ok, well that’s something.

  • jackdw97

    NO. BAD. NO MORE OZZY.

    The rest of the list is surprisingly good. I would’ve loved to see Jenn and Wentworth, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Wentworth is just waiting to come back later. (Jenn, if she was asked, definitely refused.)

    Is there any chance we ever get Yul back?

    • sharculese

      I don’t think he wants to.

      • indescribable hat

        On RHAP years ago he seemed slightly interested in playing against Parvati again in an all winners season. My sense is that all winners is the only thing that might tempt him.

    • Kemper Boyd

      Is Ozzy fat in his 30s? If so I’m on board for his return. Ozzy who is shit at challenges would be fun.

      • Ms. Sweaterfan

        A fat bald Ozzy who forgot how to swim?? Yessssssssss

      • Ozzy who is shit at challenges is basically useless to Survivor. Except as an older Drew Christy.

        • Kemper Boyd

          but what a sight it would be!

        • Or a HvV Colby. I would probably still have a massive crush on him though.

          • HvV Colby may have been bad at challenges, but I don’t get the impression Colby is as off-putting a personality as Ozzy. I think people actually enjoyed being in an alliance with Colby.

      • DrVanNostrand

        I feel the same way about Joe. If he comes back, it has to be like HvV Colby.

      • VoicOff

        According to his Insta, he is not so fat anymore.

        • Kemper Boyd

          Booooooooo.

      • jackdw97

        As much as I love the idea of a fat first-boot Ozzy, the thought of Ozzy even being associated with another season of Survivor is terrible. And he’d probably take up confessional and reunion show time that could be better spent talking to Sandra/Sophie/Cirie.

        • Kemper Boyd

          Mainly what I mean is the only way I’d be ok with him returning if he was Superman in a Fat Suit.

      • sharculese

        If Ozzy is on this season can we get the entire Black Widow Brigade on it, too?

        • Kemper Boyd

          As much as I feel I don’t ever need more Amanda Kimmel or to be honest Parvarti, yeah I’m down.
          Part of me would love a returnee season that was just a full cast back to play again with same tribe divisions and same location.

          • sharculese

            The only scenario I want to see Parvati return in is one where there’s someone on the tribe who says “Hey remember on Micronesia when Penner insisted that Parvati should go home first, and nobody listened and they all regretted it? And then remember on Heroes vs. Villains when Rob and Tyson insisted Parvati should go home first and nobody listened and they all regretted it?* Maybe… we should vote out Parvati first?”

            And then nobody listens and they all end up regretting it.

            *Okay, Sandra did just fine.

          • Kemper Boyd

            I do think Parvarti is now too good at the game to go back on the show. The returnees who should be voted out first is: Parvarti, Cirie, Sandra, Russell and Boston Rob.

  • sharculese

    Guys imagine Natalie A and Sandra on a tribe together. Like every other word would have to bleeped.

    • Max_Jets

      Throw in Sophie “WILL YOU LET ME FUCKING FINISH” Clarke and you’ve got one amazing tribe.

      • sharculese

        Plus Tony will be there. It would be like a new Casaya.

        • Side Character

          But filled with people we actually kinda like.

    • Assistant Dragon Slayer

      Yeah, but you need a match to throw onto the gasoline. The list is really light on potential Rockers or Fairplays (Troyzan, maybe?)

      • sharculese

        You don’t think Tony is up to the task?

        • Assistant Dragon Slayer

          1) I don’t see Tony getting into a genuine clash with them, and if he just provokes them for fun he knows when to pull back before the explosion happens; 2) if all the former winners are on the same tribe I think he’s very likely to be the first boot.

          • sharculese

            Tony’s two biggest weakness are that he has poor impulse control and can’t let things go. The same manic energy that powered him through the game also means that de-escalate is not a setting he has. So it’s really one going to take one little thing to start something.

            Kass mistakenly called him a bitch and by the end of the episode he was literally babbling incoherently and waving his arms in the air.

            As to two, I actual wonder if Tony is going to seem like less of threat than we assume. A tribe of not just veterans but winners is going to be a lot less impressed with his ‘sorry guys but I had to go behind your backs,’ routine. (Yeah, I know JT did, but the Heroes weren’t exactly a strategic brain trust.) A strategy of “keep him around for challenges and vote him out if and when he starts going off the rails,” seems possible.

          • Maybe I’m only thinking of the individual immunity challenges, but I don’t recall Tony ever being all that great at challenges.

            Still, this is why I’d fear a tribe with all the winners together: one of them has to go home first, and I like all of them (though I’d be most devastated if Tony, Sandra, or Earl went home first).

          • sharculese

            I was thinking of pre-merge challenges. Yeah, Tony didn’t do too great in the individual immunity challenges, which iirc he blames on Cagayan being too puzzle-heavy. But having that kind of bulldozer of a man is useful, if you feel you can keep him contained.

          • andythesaint

            This is backed up by Tony often being one of the first people to get to the puzzle in those challenges.

          • sharculese

            I actually do think he has a point. That was a stretch where Survivor maybe was overdoing it on the puzzles, culminating in that first challenge in SJDS where the puzzle supposedly took 5 hours to solve.

            I just also find it really funny and ever so Tony that he’s still indignant about it. It’s like, dude, you were immediately coronated as one of the most fascinating winners ever. Who freaking cares that you never won individual immunity?

          • If anything, never having immunity made his win even more impressive.

          • Alycia Swift

            You are right. On the list, Tony is one of the worst of the men as far as challenge ability. But he also was up against Spencer and Kass on puzzles and Woo and Tasha on the physical part. Trish held her own. Tony was too manic to do well on puzzles. If it were a weightlifting challenge, he’d do fine.

          • Mechanical Shark

            Tony seems likely to overplay his hand. His game required four blindly loyal allies who he could throw under the bus at any opportunity, and in the end it paid off royally when his last ally won immunity and took him instead of the obvious goat.
            in an all-star season, he would not be likely to find such blindly loyal allies.

          • sharculese

            Tony also had a god idol with powers he wouldn’t reveal that he could wave in people’s faces and say ‘vote me out, see what happens.’

  • Black Dynamite

    This list has great potential. No clue what direction they are going in but the possibilities are plenty. That being said, here are the 16 people I want to see back (ranked in order of preference)

    Women
    1. Cirie Fields
    2. Sandra Diaz-Twine
    3. Natalie Anderson
    4. Sophie Clarke
    5. Natalie Bolton
    6. Danni Boatwright
    7. Andrea Boehlke
    8. Debbie Wanner

    Men
    1. Tony Vlachos
    2. Malcolm Freberg
    3. Earl Cole
    4. J.T Thomas
    5. Tai Trang
    6. Caleb Reynolds
    7. Mike Holloway
    8. Jon Misch

    • Kemper Boyd

      I don’t want Sandraw to play again unless she wins.

      • itsafuckingSTICK

        I feel the exact same way. I absolutely love every moment of Sandra on Survivor, but I don’t think I could handle it if she played a third time and didn’t win.

        • itsafuckingSTICK

          On the flip side, if Sandra were to go 3/3 we would certainly be living in the best of all possible worlds.

          • Kemper Boyd

            Frankly if Sandra is voted off her first tribal then everyone deserves to lose to her.

          • itsafuckingSTICK

            I guess I would take some small comfort in delighting in her sure-to-be-caustic elimination interview.

          • Kemper Boyd

            I meant to write isn’t. If Sandra isn’t voted off her first tribal everyone deserves to lose to her.

        • Kemper Boyd

          Did you read the nice gentleman who on the recap was telling me Sandra is shit?

          • itsafuckingSTICK

            I did not, but that gentleman is obviously a doodoo head.

          • Kemper Boyd

            He literally disagreed with me saying we were allowed to disagree.

          • And if he appears again with the same attitude, some magical things might start happening to his comments.

          • Kemper Boyd

            But I ended up having fun trolling him with my acceptance of his opinion whilst still disagreeing!

        • And I don’t know that I could root for her as much this time around, because I’d want Cirie to get that first W.

          • itsafuckingSTICK

            I’d still be all on in Sandra. Cirie is great as well, but a triple crown for Sandra is worth another loss for Cirie.

          • andythesaint

            I dunno. I’ve heard that people who win on their fourth try aren’t actually good at Survivor.

          • Kemper Boyd

            It’s a real Rafe’s Choice. I just don’t want to see Sandra sully her 100% record. But I really want to see Cirie win.

          • indescribable hat

            How much would I love a Cirie vs. Sandra season? So, so much. Cirie set it up really well shit-talking her after HvV.

      • Ms_Woozah

        Yeah I only want her back on an all-winners season. and win it.

    • Alycia Swift

      Remove Misch and I’m ok with this list. But I’m not sure who I’d want in instalead

  • DrVanNostrand

    I mostly like the list, but please, for the love of god, no more fucking Ozzy!

    • Kemper Boyd

      If Ozzy plays will there be redemption island.?

      • DrVanNostrand

        Kill me now

      • Purplerockmatt

        jokes are supposed to be funny Kemper

  • Purplerockmatt

    guys stop complaining about people who were on second chances not being on this list, no one from second chances is on this list. it is obviously deliberate

    • Apparently, there is another list floating around that has a couple of Second Chancers on there.

      • Purplerockmatt

        yeah the reason why was because the second chancers were redmonds source

        • Really? I did not know that.

          • Purplerockmatt

            Varner is his source

          • As soon as I pushed “Post”, I realized how dumb I was. Of course, it is Varner. As much as I love him, he does have loose lips.

  • VoicOff

    Cirie ! Sandra ! <3
    (Though they will have to stay on their toes at the begining)

    They brought back as much bland looking white men as possible (Jon John Mike Malcolm LJ Caleb…)

    Nope List: Peter, Ozzy
    Why ? list: Troyzan, Chelsea, Alexis , Marty, Peter

    • sharculese

      I’m going to be contrarian (Andy’s ears prick up) and defend the Peter pick – from a casting perspective Peter is pure gold. That Coach*-level ability to spout ridiculous nonsense, make’s production’s job so much easier, because they don’t have to do anything to get material out of him. Here’s how a Peter confessional probably goes:

      Producer: Peter, the sun sure is bright today.

      Peter: Why yes, I do like the feel of the sun on my tight, chiseled back.

      Plus he’s got that thing were he is constitutionally compelled to blow up his own spot at tribal in fascinating ways. I would have taken at least 2 or 3 more tribals with Peter in them. But that’s the thing about Peter, you don’t have to worry about him overstaying his welcome because he can’t. He is always to overplay his hand and get sent home early.

      Which brings us to literally the only risk production takes in bringing him back – that his tribe goes to council early and everyone agrees to hold off on tough decisions and voter Peter out before he makes himself a problem.

      That’s why they’re talking to Peter. He’s everything they hoped they were getting with Vince Sly but didn’t.

      *And unlike Coach, he is apparently like this in real life, so, if Peter comes back, I don’t think we’re getting a caricature of him, I think we’ll get raw, unfiltered Peter.**

      **Oh cool there was still one Peter/phrasing joke left in the tank.

      • DrVanNostrand

        Peter is an entertaining disaster. I prefer him over fodder like Woo.

        • sharculese

          It’s what Andy kept saying during the Second Chances vote – all-star seasons still have pre-merge boots. Watching Peter fall on his face again is preferable to seeing someone I like go out early.

        • You’re going to hurt Other Scott’s feelings.

  • turgid_legume

    I’m pretty much fine with everyone on that list, with the exception of Jon Misch, Ozzy, and Carolyn. I do not need or want to see any of those people ever play Survivor again. And a few are just aggressively neutral, but I don’t have a problem with them.

  • Ethan Kyle

    Its bullshit, no way in hell Danni or JT are coming back as for Sandra … please god if you do one thing for me in my life let Sandra come back and not be first boot

  • Ms. Sweaterfan

    Randomly strung together thoughts:
    Where’s Rupert?! (jk jk nooo) I’m not interested in seeing Ozzy again. Very minor interest for Malcolm and Andrea. I love Sandra but her Survivor story seems like it’s complete. I’d rather see Cirie on a Redemption Island/South Pacific style season with only a few returnees. My memories of Carolyn have already faded almost completely.
    Alexis, Troyzan, Peter, Chelsea, Jon, John, LJ, Monica: meh
    Marty, Caleb, Nat Bolt, Mike, Tony, Tai, JT: eh, sure why not
    Danni, Earl, Debbie, Sophie: YES PLEASE

    • DrVanNostrand

      Earl is in the top two of what I call my ‘1/1 Club’.

      • Mike Hirsch

        Yeah, in my original comment, I said Nat Bolt was the one making me happiest, but let’s be real: it’s Earl.

  • tocantins

    Well, if they do bring back Sandra, and I totally hope they do, they must bring back a lot of returnees and winners, especially those “scarier” ones like Tony, so that she has a shot of winning. If she comes back for the 3rd time and wins again then that would be the high point of my life. The other one I would be excited to see again is Cirie, the rest is kind of so-so. Why is there no Kim in this list? If they are making a 3rd All Stars, they have to bring Kim back.

    • Kim is popping out another baby.

      • Purplerockmatt

        stupid babies

      • Alycia Swift

        Oops I respond before seeing this.

      • Purple Rock Emma

        Pretty selfish of her tbh.

    • DrVanNostrand

      To follow up on John, Kim was on RHAP recently. She is about to finish popping out 3 kids in short order, but she and her husband are serious about this being the last. She’s conflicted, but open to returning once the newest one is old enough.

    • Alycia Swift

      Kim is about to have baby number 3.

  • Assistant Dragon Slayer

    Francesca or why bother?

    • You’re preaching to the choir here.

    • Kemper Boyd

      It’s spelt Francesqua

      • Assistant Dragon Slayer

        “spelt” lol Brits.

        • Kemper Boyd

          Spelt is show you spell that word. It’s called English Bruv, which one of us is in England?

      • Mike Hirsch

        But pronounced Franchkeskwa.

    • Mechanical Shark

      going for the hat trick!

  • andythesaint

    New thread:

    Pick one (just one) player you hope to get added to this list.

    I’ll start: Michele (obviously)

    • andythesaint

      As a real answer, I removed players who clearly seem to not want (or are available) to come back, like Yul, Ian, Kim, Colleen, etc.

      So my pick is Brian Corridan. I liked him on Guatemala, liked him more on the Survivor’s Strike Back blog that CBS used to have. He’s shown that he’s still into the game and has a good presence on Twitter. His cliquish stuff with the Wine and Cheese is a little annoying, but we’ve kind of depleted the superfan quota of late, so he’d be a good add (since there isn’t one currently. Other than maybe Malcolm).

      (I was going to say Denise, but since Malcolm is already here, I’d rather not have them together again).

      • Black Dynamite

        Brian is a good pick. That Guatemala season is incredibly underrated. My pick is Trish from Cagayan.

        • Alycia Swift

          I would have preferred trish over Carolyn.

          • DrVanNostrand

            A million times yes

        • Ms. Sweaterfan

          I’d prefer Trish over any of the other Cagayan-ers on this cast list (yes, even Tony)

          • Kemper Boyd

            Trish deserves another go, she was entertaining and after playing with Tony she can ope with anything.

          • Alycia Swift

            Especially since many predicted she’d be out first because of the tribe she was on.

          • Kemper Boyd

            Absolutely, would I want to hang out with her? No. WOuld I watch her happily on Survivor, yeah.

          • sharculese

            There are better options just on the Beauty tribe than Alexis and LJ.

          • Kemper Boyd

            Brice but let’s be honest here the ranking of the Beauties is Brice then everyone else.

          • sharculese

            I was thinking Brice first, Morgan second. Unintentionally hilarious is still hilarious.

            But I also wouldn’t be shocked to find out that Brice is one of the unleaked names, given that he has a lot of fans and is actively campaigning to come back.

          • Counterpoint: None of the people who ran active “Bring me back” campaigns are on this list. No John, no Neleh, no Brice, no Coby, etc.

          • Kemper Boyd

            As this isn’t a “second chance” one do you think they are saving those they think will be vote getters for a possible Second Chance II?

          • No, I imagine there are at least some of those names that they just aren’t interested in having come back regardless of theme.

          • Kemper Boyd

            Possibly, I do wonder if there are some who are campaigning they may want to keep so that the Second Chance II list has people willing to build momentum for the season byt campaigning hard.

          • sharculese

            I don’t know if John is still persona non grata with CBS, but I think all of those names could be in the pipepline.

            Actually if they’ve made a list of old-school players who are likely to get the Kimmi Kappenberg Award for Most Improved Performance, Neleh has to be somewhere near the top.

          • So basically, if you are/were one of the Survivor Shaders, you do not get to come back to Survivor.

          • Kemper Boyd

            I’d be ok with Morgan just to hear Josh Wiggler’s impression for another season.

      • Max_Jets

        I was surprised to not see Denise in the mix! It sounds like she is interested in returning at some point.
        I would like to see Brice return before he is completely forgotten, because a full season of Brice would be gold.

        • sharculese

          Rob said something about Denise being too busy to do RHAP this season, so maybe they asked and she couldn’t make the commitment.

          • Ms. Sweaterfan

            Or maybe she’s busy in casting for season 34 and it just hasn’t been leaked yet :O

          • sharculese

            That’s a good point, and could be possible, but Sophie and Natalie A have both done episodes this season.

          • Alycia Swift

            Yes but maybe other than casting, her real life is keeping her busy. Neither Sophie or Natalie has a kid or husband or practice. If she’s going, she might have to make arrangements for her clients.

          • Yeah, she was also so busy that she couldn’t do a Reddit AMA. Of course, she may have been just brushing them off, but still.

          • DrVanNostrand

            Isn’t Sophie trying to teach Dr. Oz how to science? That’s got to be more than a full time job (and a futile one at that).

      • Mike Hirsch

        Dave Ball. I’d go with Dave Ball.

      • Ms. Sweaterfan

        Only one?? Since I’m a rule follower, I have spent literally hours thinking about this so that I can narrow my pick down to just one person. Assuming that the eventual cast is made up of a relatively representative mix of the people on the potential cast list, my criteria were that the person I picked had to fit well with the rest of the hypothetical cast and ideally offer something that isn’t already represented in the current list.
        And that person is: JAISON
        I went with Jaison because he’s a great athlete, has a bit of a ‘tude sometimes, and may or may not have some strategic chops. I’d like to see how he would do out of Russell’s shadow.

        My first instinct is always to want to see more of the great older women who have played in the past, but they’re actually pretty well represented on this list already. Also, my #1 older woman pick would have been Trish and there’s already more than enough Cagayan on there…

        • Alycia Swift

          Good answer. Hell of a lot better choice than Peter.

        • sharculese

          Good choice. I’d add that, of everyone on that season, Jaison seemed most affected by the rain. By the time he gets voted off he’s basically semi-catatonic. It would be interesting to see him play in better conditions.

          • indescribable hat

            But isn’t he the kind of tall, low-body-fat guy who always gets really beat up by the conditions? I’d hope he’d be livelier in better weather, but that worries me.

          • sharculese

            I’m not saying he’d have a picnic, but he at least might have a better shot.

        • andythesaint

          I almost went with Jaison.

        • Having watched Samoa now, Jaison is a really intriguing person to have come back. I am just worried that he won’t come back like a lot of people from Samoa.

      • Purplerockmatt

        damn man, what the hell is damn wrong with you damn guys, man, that no damn person has yet said damn Judd, man!

        • Assistant Dragon Slayer

          Scumbags.

      • indescribable hat

        T-Bird, because I’m feeling a little mystified at their choices of Cambodia snubs and we know she wants to come back.

        • andythesaint

          This is probably the correct answer.

        • When my wife saw Redmond’s list, she said, “Where’s T-Bird?!” So you’re not alone in that.

    • Alycia Swift

      Aubry.

      • andythesaint

        Looks like you’ll have to pick someone else now.

        • Alycia Swift

          Ok. Tattooed Angie (not cookies) from Palau who surprisingly was a decent player and good at challenges but just got on a very bad tribe.

          • Side Character

            I totally forgot about Angie. I did really like her when I watched Palau (she got me for being picked last and then next episode totally owning the challenges). That’d be great if she came back.
            “We’re not going back to immunity!”

    • sharculese

      I have to follow my heart and my heart says Shane.

      • Alycia Swift

        But I think he’s been screwed enough that he’s done.

        • He says that, but if the offer were actually on the table again I think he’d change his mind.

    • Alkanarra

      Not even a joke answer: Lil. No one would get me more excited for a new season than the return of the scout master.

    • Kemper Boyd

      This is a really tough question to answer. Probably for me my go to name in Nat Bolten is on the list but apart from her I’d say Sean Rector.

    • Assistant Dragon Slayer

      A bit of cheat since it’s not one person, but I think you’ll allow it: Wanda Shirk and Jonathan Libby. Not because I think they’d be any good at Survivor (although Wanda and whatever tribe has to live with her 24/7 is guaranteed to be comedy gold), but because no contestants have ever been more screwed by the production process (which is not to say they didn’t make the right call for Guatemala).

      • andythesaint

        Jonathan and Wanda are basically one person.

    • EmAndScoutInBK

      This is super hard. Yul probably would’ve been pretty high up, but obv. not available. Denise would definitely be my pick as well, but I’d bet she was asked – I’d be surprised if she wasn’t.

      Deena Bennett. That’s my pick.

      If she’s not available, then Michelle Yi. If only because she got so screwed.

      I considered Christa Hastie and Vecepia Towery, too. Part of me also wonders how someone like Katie Gallagher would do in new Survivor, post Courtney Yates and with a lot less of a focus on shelter building and whatnot.

      • I think what supposedly happened to Michelle at Ponderosa should not make an automatic returnee.

        #zing

    • itsafuckingSTICK

      Grant, always and forever

    • Side Character

      I already picked a bunch in a previous post, so there’s a lot of people I could choose, but if I have to pick one, Michelle Yi, from Fiji. She deserved a second chance after getting screwed over by a twist (and Dreamz). Plus, her presence in Fiji always made me happy.

      • Kemper Boyd

        Also she fell off a platform whilst being the calling in a challenge. Classic.

        • Roswulf

          And kept going without missing a beat. Michelle from Fiji was pure joy.

    • Other Scott

      Erik Cardona. That guy was so entertaining, and I’d always rather see returnees who went out by overplaying than the other way around,

      • Kemper Boyd

        He gave good jury reactions too. That’s always part of my consideration, are they a good juror.

    • Matt used to constantly say that he wanted Andrew Savage to come back, and that turned out pretty well. So I’ll keep banging the drum for Bob Dogg. I think he had plenty more to offer, and I think he’s great as comic relief.

      • andythesaint

        My question about Bob is if he wants to come back at all. Maybe the dude just never got into social media, but you wonder about people who have disappeared that much – maybe they put Survivor past them.

        • I had come to that conclusion right up until the moment I saw Bob in a picture with a bunch of other random Survivors. He’s at least still in contact with some of them, so I’m going to hold out hope.

          • andythesaint

            I too gleaned a bit of hope for that.

          • andythesaint

            And, hey, until Second Chance, Jeff Varner was persona non grata.

    • DrVanNostrand

      Here’s a guy who was mentioned below, but not actually chosen as the one: DREAMZ! He could have a killer redemption arc. (I might have gone with Judd, but Matt got the name out there, so I’ll leave it at that)

    • Mechanical Shark

      PETE YURKOWSKI

  • Side Character

    Generally, the (rumoured) returnees fall into 4 main categories for me:
    Yeah! Alright!: Earl (fuck yeah, make it happen), Danni, Cirie, Sandra (though I’d be cool if she didn’t come back, she don’t need to prove nothing to no one), Natalie Anderson and Bolton, Sophie, Tai, Tony
    Yeah, Alright: Andrea, Caleb, Carolyn, Chelsea, LJ, Mike, Jon Misch, Debbie, Sarah
    Yeah…um…alright…ok…: Alexis, Hali, Malcolm, John Cody, JT, Peter
    Yeah, no: Ozzy (I liked Ozzy the first time, and maybe the second, but after that, we don’t need more of him), Troyzan, Monica, Marty
    If this was the choices of who would come back, I would so want to see Cirie win.

    Other possible choices I’d like to see: Teresa “T-Bird”, Kelly Goldsmith (could be interesting, if she maintained hatred levels that she had for Lex), Sean Rector, Vecepia, Shii Ann (I wonder how she would’ve done if she was able to do Heroes vs Villains), Shane Powers, Becky Lee (just for the stone cold looks), Michelle Yi (if only she was an option on Second Chances), Erinn, Taj, Francesca (I always feel bad for her being voted out first, twice, and feel like she could go far if people think she isn’t a threat–which she shouldn’t really be considered as one (only 6 days as a Survivor, excluding Redemption)), Lisa Whelchel, Brice, Drew Christy (not really, I’d only want to see an epic demise if he was on)

    • Kemper Boyd

      I believe Erinn just had a baby.

      • Side Character

        Oh, I have no idea if any of those last picks are available at all–I don’t scour the internets as much as the rest of you, so I’m not up to date on where any of them are at. I’m just saying ideally, I’d be more inclined to see these people on a returnee season.

        • Kemper Boyd

          I would LOVE Erinn to come back, I’m just letting you know this may not be a casting overlook but because her life is too complex right now. She is probably my number 1 cast want for Second Chances II.

          • EmAndScoutInBK

            I’m also extremely pro-Erinn. I think her game was SUPER underrated (not to mention, she is great in confessionals).

        • I’m actually kind of surprised that Sean Rector isn’t on the list. If they’re looking for old school players they could bring back that could fit into the modern version of the show, I think he easily translates. He could fairly easily be a Varner-like revelation (though hopefully not a Varner-like 4th boot).

          Shii Ann is another good candidate, given her “Get over yourselves, it’s a game” final jury speech in All-Stars.

          • EmAndScoutInBK

            Shii Ann was one of the first people I thought of – I think she’d be an interesting person to return post-all stars.

          • DrVanNostrand

            Now I’m angry about no Sean Rector. Thanks for ruining my day!

          • sharculese

            Shii-Ann also was RC before RC, using her jury speech to congratulate herself for seeing Amber as a threat. People focus on Lex, but All-Stars also would have turned out differently if Shii-Ann didn’t make her jury vote about herself.

          • Shii-Ann’s was like the 5th most memorable jury speech that season.

            But now you’ve compared her to RC, so I’ve changed my mind on her completely and never want her to return.

      • I thought that baby was like 9 months old at this point, unless she is going after Kim Spradlin’s quickest procreation record amongst the Survivor alumni.

        • Kemper Boyd

          Still, I don’t see her wanting to leave a 1 year old. At that age they still breast feed.

  • Marlene

    I was discussing this list with a friend who is a total spoiler seeker, so I don’t know if her theory is hers or she read it somewhere. But she said none of these people are from Cali, and there are more potentials that didn’t fly in for final casting rounds. (I’m not fanatical enough to know where past contestants live with the exception of people from Boston. You know, Rodney.)
    So take this theory with many grains of salt.

    • sharculese

      He’s not from there but doesn’t Malcolm live in California? Plus, if it is coast vs. coast, you don’t pick Malcolm to represent the east.

    • Assistant Dragon Slayer

      Hmm. Interesting. Maybe Redmond’s source tracks the air travel production is paying for, and would therefore miss the local returnees? Just off the top of my head I would think Vince Sly is a no-brainer to return.

      Edit: To be perfectly clear, I’m not pounding the table for the coconut vendor’s return, I just think that from production’s perspective, as with Peter there’s plenty of comedy gold left in the mine.

      • Marlene

        Oh, man. The total lack of self-awareness of a Peter/Vince duo could be the stuff of dreams.

        /I don’t see Peter going with his attitude towards the show on Twitter lately though. He’s a real WTF pick. Even more so than Ozzy.

    • There’s another list that may add some people from Cali to Redmond’s list.

      • I’ve seen a couple other names floated elsewhere, some of which would be interesting (though some of which would be extremely “meh”).

        • Yeah. Is Worlds Apart becoming the new One World in regards of inexplicable returnees?

          • They haven’t returned yet, so let’s keep our fingers crossed. (Though really I’d be fine with seeing Jenn again- even while agreeing with Andy’s assessment that Jenn may just be too willing to give up when things aren’t going her way.)

          • Alycia Swift

            That’s my guess why she’s not on the list. Jenna Morasca did the same thing but bounced back.

          • I want to see Jenn back. I’m okay with Rodney, Mike, and So (but if they are on the borderline with the people I am more okay, then they are getting tossed). Hali and Sierra are inexplicable add-ins.

          • Alycia Swift

            Though I don’t want to see him, I am surprised Rodney’s not on the list so far. He still made sexist remarks and fueled Will but wasn’t as terrible as Will and Dan were, I guess.

          • I honestly think that Rodney could have Boston Rob upside. In fact, he made it further than Rob did in Marquesas.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            If he comes back I’m totally choosing Rodney for my Champions League fantasy team.

          • I don’t know about that. While he could make it far, he doesn’t win challenges in the post-merge. I actually think that he rivals Sandra for losing the most post-merge challenges. He even lost the fire-making challenge.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            It was a joke. I picked Rodney last time around in Outcast’s. It was horrible.

          • I didn’t know that. I am sorry for pouring salt in that wound.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            That turned into a pretty hilarious wound.

          • Well, at least you didn’t have Dan or Will…right?

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            No. Just Rodney. Forever.

          • Max_Jets

            I think the cast of Worlds Apart is pretty good and certainly stronger than One World. The season just played out poorly with Dan and Will making it so far.

          • That may be true as a whole, but the parts they are bringing back are fairly weak with a few exceptions.

          • Agreed completely. And I get that they think they lack dynamic women to bring back, but I don’t think So or Sierra are filling that void for them. I’d rather see Liz, Jenny, or Anna from this season before either of those two. Even Morgan from Cagayan had more of a narrative arc than Sierra.

          • Agreed! I think So has the “What if?” potential, plus she is dating Malcolm. Sierra has nothing but being a pretty face to her name. Also, Anna (IIRC) correctly is on the unofficial second list.

          • Mechanical Shark

            I disagree. Sierra was a solid under the radar player that would’ve won if not for Mike’s crazy immunity run – she would have crushed Rodney, Will, and Carolyn (or Dan) on that f4 challenge. i

          • I can see. There’s just something about her that I don’t like but I can’t describe what it is.

          • Also, I think when they think of “dynamic” they think of young and attractive women.

          • Mechanical Shark

            Worlds Apart is a season that would have been great with a semi-inverted boot order (or even an inverted one, imagine a f3 of So, Vince, and Nina). I can see why production would want to bring a bunch of WA players back. So, Max, Joaquin, Hali, Jenn, Sierra, Rodney, Carolyn, and Mike all seem like players production would like back.

        • Alycia Swift

          What names?

  • jackdw97

    Actually, I just want to see Stephen, Courtney, and Liz on a season together.

    • indescribable hat

      Stephen as the new Ethan Zohn, hmm… I like it.

  • sharculese

    Important question: Which of these players is Natalie Bolton most like to make a pass at in her FTC question?

    • andythesaint

      Danni.

      • Side Character

        I was gonna pick someone else, but then I checked to see how old everyone is–I did not realize that Natalie Bolton was 40. I really don’t have a choice but to pick Danni. Anyone younger than her and it would just be creepy.
        Conversely, who would most likely make a pass at Natalie Bolton in the FTC question? Or, perhaps, who wouldn’t?

        • But she made a pass at Parvati, who is 7 years younger than her.

        • DrVanNostrand

          Because when they’re similar ages, propositioning someone on national TV isn’t creepy at all!!

          • Side Character

            Okay, yeah, I didn’t word that properly–creepier. It’s still creepy when they’re making a pass at someone, but when it’s directed towards someone younger/older than them (substantially younger/older, I mean), then the creep factor goes up a notch.

    • Kemper Boyd

      Peter or Caleb. But just for bedroom stuff nothing else.

      • sharculese

        Peter is not making a final 3.

        • Kemper Boyd

          Neither is Caleb… so Ponderosa fun times instead?

    • DrVanNostrand

      Chelsea.

  • Ms. Sweaterfan

    I guess something to keep in mind about players like Alexis and Hali showing up on this list is that some of the more WTF casting choices on returnee seasons in the past have actually proven to be pretty good players. I think the magic ingredient there is time. If someone who was young and immature their first time playing comes back several years later, they may actually surprise everyone by being pretty good at the game. Some examples that come to mind are Boston Rob, Parvati, Kelley Wentworth, possibly even Cochran? I’m not necessarily calling Alexis or Hali as the next BRob, but it at least makes me slightly more interested in them as potential players on 34.

    • EmAndScoutInBK

      I actually had this thought too. That’s why I’m pretty indifferent about people who were as UTR as Alexis (and Hali, though Hali made a bigger impression, I think). You gave some great examples – the WTF casting factor was huge for Parvati, Boston Rob, Amber, etc… I also was indifferent about Chelsea because I’ve heard nothing but great things about her from the One World cast. Plus, she was playing against Kim, so I take that into account, too – but I haven’t re-watched the season in a while. I’m just going off of a few interviews I heard lately that praised her.

    • indescribable hat

      I remember Alexis was a big fan who seemed devastated when she was booted. I think hunger is also a factor in some of those surprising returnee success stories. At this point if someone seems really excited to go back and they didn’t get on my nerves the first time, I’m not mad about it.

      • Ms. Sweaterfan

        Great point, and I think it applies to 3 out of 4 of my examples above. I vaguely remember hearing that Alexis was a superfan, and I think she’s fairly smart too (Northwestern alumna I think?). I may be tentatively buying my ticket to the Alexis hype train…

        • indescribable hat

          Yeah, she was kind of in the Anna spot where we wanted her to be the secretly brainy beauty! And in her case I do think a couple years more life experience could make a big difference too.

          Just curious, who’s the one example you don’t think was hungry? I’m guessing Parvati or Cochran because I feel like it applies to them less, but I can also see it for all of them…

          • Ms. Sweaterfan

            Yeah Parvati was the one I left out, mostly just because I didn’t think she was ever much of a fan of the show before she was on, and thus I’m not sure how desperate she was to get back after Cook Islands.

          • indescribable hat

            Oh, yeah, that makes sense. I was thinking of her confessionals at the beginning of Micronesia where she’s like, I’m not just the flirt, I’m not here to freeze and starve and not win. In her case it’s more like once she’s coming back she has something to prove.

          • Tatum

            Funny enough, she applied for Amazing Race with a friend, didn’t get in, then got recruited for Survivor

      • Mechanical Shark

        yeah, I think some of these “legendary” players are either going to coast or try the same strategy that worked for them before, to disastrous results. Mike and Tony are going to crash and burn, probably.
        but the hungry players, the ones out to prove that they deserved another chance, those ones have the potential to follow in the path of Wentworth/Kimmi (who didn’t get a fair edit, but that she got to f6 and almost flipped the game on its head, goddamn idols, speaks to her gameplay).

  • EmAndScoutInBK

    Ack! I’ve been waiting to post about this. My feelings:

    Yay without hesitation: Danni! Earl! Natalie Bolton! Natalia Anderson! Sandra (I don’t care how many times she plays, she is gold. Also, I’d love to see if anyone is smart enough to boot her early this time)! Tony! Sophie (caveat – she was initially on the hesitate list, but I bumped her up)!

    Conflicted Yay: Cirie – I love her, but a 4th time is a lot for any player. Andrea – again, enjoy her as a player, but not sure I do enough for a 3rd time.

    Indifferent: Hali. Alexis. Caleb. Tai. Carolyn. Chelsea. Marty. Mike.

    No thanks, I’m good: Water Felon Debbie. JT. John. Jon. LJ. Malcolm. Monica. Peter. Sarah. Troyzan.

    WTF BURN THE BEACH DOWN: Ozzy.

  • Assistant Dragon Slayer

    Hey, wait a second. 15 of the 28 people on this list are from seasons that filmed within the last three years. Why would they have to go through the casting process at all?

    • Smocke55

      From what I understand ,returning players have a different casting process than newbies .Theirs is more health/physical related as opposed to psychological stuff

    • sharculese

      Probably because their thoughts on going back on the show are colored by how their first season went, so casting needs a better sense of what kind of player they might be on the second go-round.

  • Jim

    Could someone give me a good explanation why Natalie Bolton would be wanted on Survivor again? Other than being aligned with a bunch of favourites, asking a super awkward jury question, and carrying out Cirie’s plan on Erik, what did she do? And nothing that I mentioned makes me want to see her again, as almost any player could do the first, given the right circumstances, the second just makes me cringe, and put her farther down my list, and the third, anyone that can listen to instructions, and manipulate young men (many attractive females could do this) could do it

    • Smocke55

      Agreed,not to mention she was super invisible for the first 10 or so episodes of Micro and super obnoxious for the second half.People remember her because the BWB was legendary,but apart from that,she wasn’t interesting in any way

    • Kemper Boyd

      Smart, funny and interesting LGBT woman, a member of one of the best alliances in the history .

      • Jim

        Smart? Funny? I don’t see any of those qualities, she was a cringe worthy attack dog for Cirie and Parv. (On the show) Just because a boring person is on an entertaining tribe doesn’t mean you want them back.

        • Kemper Boyd

          That’s your opinion dude, her confessionals were entertaining to me. You don’t have to want her back, that’s cool, I and a lot of others do.

    • Mechanical Shark

      she’s weird as hell, and has a lot of potential to be an entertaining character. Now that production knows fans love her, they’re more likely to give her a bigger edit if she’s cast again.

  • I’m excited for Earl, Aubry, Carolyn, Cirie, Hali, Jeff, Penner, LJ, Malcolm, Marty, Sabrina, Tony. confused for no Denise. Why is Ozzy, Monica, and Alexis on the list?!

    • Kemper Boyd

      Alexis doesn’t bother me, she was 21 when she played, she showed some chops but was taken out after a swap left her vulnerable. Wentworth showed those types of players can make good on promise.

      • I wasn’t excited about Wentworth being back anyways, but she proved me wrong. But Kelley wasn’t interesting in the first game. Alexis was so boring in Cagayan.

        • Kemper Boyd

          Plenty of people I thought would be terrible returnees have been great Parvati is a great example of that.

          • But I don’t like Parvati, or Amber.

          • Kemper Boyd

            Parvati? one of the most entertaining winners. Can I ask why?

          • I honestly feel she flirted too much. But she did play a great game, but I’ve never been a fan at all.

          • Kemper Boyd

            Flirting is a huge part of social interaction. Some people are just better at it than others. Parvati is completely amazing at it. It’s as valuable as how others built their social bonds.

          • I’m kind of bias against the players who flirt, but I respect the game plan. I’m not a fan, but I respect

          • Kemper Boyd

            Can I be honest? Being biased against players who flirt is being biased against a certain type of young woman who often need to flirt because other contestants don’t take them seriously.
            There is a huge difference between a player like Morgan who has nothing else going on but her looks and a player like Parvati who has flirting as part of their game play arsenal.

          • I see your point.

    • Denise has been really busy lately. Apparently she is too busy to do a Reddit AMA. Now that could be an ultimate bluff, but it could also be the truth as well.

  • Ms_Woozah

    So what theme do we think this will be? I heard it won’t be a HvV, so I’m thinking winners vs something?

    • Seems likely that if they’re going three tribes they’ll either do one tribe of winners or sprinkle 6 winners across three tribes, no?

      • Ms_Woozah

        If we can’t have an all-winner’s season, a tribe of winners is the next best thing. Can you imagine the egos? Or how they would determine who’s “least deserving to be there?” I’m giggling just thinking about it.

        • My worry: Let’s say the tribe is 6 people- Sophie, Tony, Earl, Sandra, Danni, and JT. If they lose the very first immunity challenge and need to lose their least-athletically-competent member, guess who’s going home.

          • Alkanarra

            Let’s not underestimate Tony’s ability to do something comically inappropriate almost immediately and getting people to wonder if they want to deal with 39 days of him. Sandra is real good at working with distractions and Tony is a distraction-making factory.

          • Honestly, I’d be just as sad if Tony was the first boot.

          • Alkanarra

            I’m just bracing myself for the inevitable. Everyone now knows how quickly Tony will burn you based on whim and how unpredictable he is, so who would risk partnering with him? No one suffers from “they know how I play the game” syndrome as much as Tony.

          • Alycia Swift

            Well they all kept Abi last time thinking they could control her and she’d be a good goat.

          • Alycia Swift

            My thoughts exactly.

    • Kemper Boyd

      SPOLIER:
      Old BJ Anderson gave me the heads up on twitter that it’s Mirrors. Each tribe will have someone who is a mirror of someone on the other tribe.
      Female pre merge, male winner, female screwed by swap etc etc.

      • Ms_Woozah

        This is an interesting idea. Is it confirmed by Redmond?

        • Kemper Boyd

          No this came from a reddit/facebook imgur she sent me at the weekend. but the lists were very similar.

      • itsafuckingSTICK

        ‘Mirrors’ sounds like SUCH a Probst-as-pseudo-philosopher theme that it must be true. I can’t wait for him to start gazing into his reflection’s navel, and then for him to shiver and shake when the navel returns the gaze.

      • Alycia Swift

        I see it in the women for sure but not sure if 2 tribes or 3 but my guess is 2 if it is mirror images.

        Aubry v. Sophie (obvious one since Aubry claimed the to Cochrane’s and Sophie’s lovechild).

        Natalie Anderson v. possibly Sara Lacina – physical ability

        Sandra v. Cirie (based on their lack of physical challenge ability, social skills, likability)
        (Although it could be Natalie v. Sandra as winners and based on their mouths – and I love them for it.)

        Hali v. Alexis (they went out around the same time, are the same age, have similar hair)

        Chelsea v. Andrea (both went further, etc. Weren’t both farmgirls?)

        Monica v. Carolyn and/or Debbie Wanner (ripped older women that are near or older than 50)

        Natalie B, Dani and Sabrina are a little harder to put a mirror image on so far

        • Kemper Boyd

          I think the mirror may be more about their previous games than their personality types. Because let’s be honest if they have Sandra vs Cirie or CIrie vs Sabrina it brings up some bad thoughts.

          • Alycia Swift

            That’s what I thought I was describing – their games.

            Some are very hard to classify.

          • Kemper Boyd

            No I mean where they finished, Natalie Anderson absolutely does not mirror Sarah Lacina.

        • Monica vs Carolyn also works because they were moms who got to FTC yet only got one vote because the jury didn’t like their style of gameplay.

      • Unfortunately I think that theme is out now. The theory is now three tribes: winners vs jury vs pre-merge

        • Kemper Boyd

          Pants. Although solves the already solved problem of all the winners going early on All stars.

          • Yes, although HvV broke that trend, with only Tom going out because he was in the outside alliance.

          • Kemper Boyd

            and the trend has stayed broken. Tina made it deep in BvW as well and Aras made it to the merge. From the way it’s told in interviews (which we obviously must be skeptical about) the booting of winners was started by Jenna because she was looking for a way to unite easily with people in her tribe and going against Tina the winner was the easiest way.

          • Plus getting rid of winners ensures the Jenna gets revenge on her ex (and winner) Ethan.

          • Kemper Boyd

            Not Morasca (also a winner) but Lewis.

          • Ethan dated Jenna Lewis and Amber and Corinne.

          • Kemper Boyd

            I always always forget that! What a dog!

          • Yeah, which makes All Stars really intriguing because each tribe had one of his exes or his (then) secret girlfriend.

  • Alycia Swift

    The list of potential players has been updated on Inside Survivor.
    Now added are Penner, Sabrina from One World, Aubry (yay!) and Varner. Actually, all 4 Yay!.

    • Yeah, I’m good with any of those. And I feel like every season with Penner on it has been great, so it’s a good omen if he’s involved.

      • Kemper Boyd

        He has managed to be on 3 of my top 5/6 seasons.

        • Purple Rock Emma

          Same!

      • Alycia Swift

        Well there has to be more to that list because if they invite 30-40, and cast 20, the list as it reads now is 23 people. (Plus whomever they choose from Season 33.)

        • Alycia Swift

          Oops I counted wrong. Never mind.

      • Mike Hirsch

        Yeah, Penner is one of those who could come back every few seasons, and I really don’t think I’d mind in the least. For the foreseeable future anyway.

      • Alycia Swift

        If Jeff ever retired, Penner would be my choice for a replacement.

        • sharculese

          I would go with Cochran, just because if Jeff is at retirement age then Penner is there too.

          • Plus Cochran would be Jeff’s preferred choice seeing as they are BFFs now.

    • I came here to post about that. Is Aubry going to be compared more to Sophie now that they could be on the same season?

  • Ms. Sweaterfan

    I feel like there’s got to be some sort of really elaborate theme in mind here, but I’m just completely perplexed.
    Then again, maybe this is just what All Stars 2.0 looks like…

  • EmAndScoutInBK

    New names to the list:

    Aubry – I’m down. If you’re going to bring people back from this season, she’s probably #1 for me.

    Varner – He’s a good character and narrator, but I’m not sold on his game play. The end of his game was a train wreck in Cambodia, and for all his talk about moves, he’s terrified of ties (even if it means sealing his inevitable fate).

    Penner – Again, fabulous character and narrator, but I don’t think he’s a great player. Also, 4 times is too many, I think. Cirie is probably the only person I want to see play 4 times, and I even hesitate there (despite loving her character and gameplay).

    Sabrina Thompson – Indifferent for the same reasons that I was indifferent about Chelsea. I haven’t re-watched One World in a while, but I remember liking her fine. And I cut her some slack for being the runner up – she was playing against Kim. There’s potential there, I think (despite being the runner up, a lot of people won’t know her game) – but who knows. Hence, indifferent.

    • Ms. Sweaterfan

      Nah, Varner wore a tie like the whole time he was out there 😉

      • EmAndScoutInBK

        I see what you did there, and I love it.

        • Ms. Sweaterfan

          I’ve never been more proud of a post than I am today 😀

    • Alycia Swift

      What I noticed about most of the potential players were very good to great at the physical part of challenges with the outright exceptions being Sandra, Cirie and Varner.

    • Kemper Boyd

      Sabrina’s biggest problem was she got stuck with Kim and idiots who couldn’t see Kim was a huge target. I doubt Sabrina would ever have been able to get Alicia and Christina to flip on Kim as they thought they were in the final 3 with her and Alicia thought she was going to beat Kim easily (she is a delusional idiot). I’d like to see her get another go of it. Plus as we all know it’s not their best demographic for returnees.

      • DrVanNostrand

        Not their best demographic? What about Fransesqua?

        • Kemper Boyd

          You know what I mean, there is a much smaller pool of players to pick from and because of the unfortunate run of WoC being the first boot a lot of them aren’t big characters. Remember Francesca was seen as WTF casting decision for Caramoan because of her being a first boot.
          The most successful black woman in recent seasons came back and finished second, who else is there but Sabrina and Cydney?

      • Mechanical Shark

        #bringbackDawson

        • Kemper Boyd

          I am fully ok with this just to make Jeff super uncomfortable.

    • sharculese

      There is literally no such thing as too much Penner.

    • Mechanical Shark

      let me just say that I’m thrilled that Survivor is finally casting female nerds (Shirin, Aubry). It was generally not an archetype they cast before. well, does J’Tia count? lol.

  • Assistant Dragon Slayer

    Remember how the Survivor community was kind of dreading Kaoh Rong because it was almost certain to be a post-All-Stars disappointment like Vanuatu and Nicaragua? (not true in the case of Vanuatu, BTW). I for one could stand to wait until say, season 38, before we have another all-returnees season. That’s partly because Kaoh Rong is unexpectedly good (so far) and partly because I think the sweet spot for returnees is second-time player, non-winner, and the pool is a bit empty of those right now (although there are still T-Birds and Shanes out there). There have been 16 third or fourth time players, and the list of those who _didn’t_ tarnish their reputations is very short (IMO, Boston Rob, Tyson, Tina, Penner, and Parvati).

    • Max_Jets

      I agree, I’ve been loving Kaoh Rong and a great all newbies season feels more pure than a great returnees season, where reputation and out of game relationships aren’t a factor. I loved watching Cambodia, but I also think having so many good players constantly trying to out strategize each other makes the chaos start to feel a bit meaningless, like how having so many bad players in Gabon or Nicaragua makes the game feel pointless. That said, seeing some of the names on this list does get me excited. Also, I would add Cirie, Jerri and Coach to your list at the end.

      • I think some did not like Cirie’s antics in HvV. I’m right there with you on Jerri though. However, I do not want to see Jerri without Colby, and I don’t think Colby is coming back.

        • Ms. Sweaterfan

          I love Cirie, but I’ve always thought her skill lies more in her amazing ability to get people to do what she wants in the moment, rather than crafting the perfect long term strategy. Her actions in HvV are a good example of this – she dug her heels in to make the moves she wanted to make, to the extent that she alienated the rest of her tribe.

  • Kemper Boyd

    Oh my god you guys. http://www.nataliebolton.com is everything you would imagine it to be.

    • sharculese

      Holy shit.

    • indescribable hat

      Oh wow. That is really something.

    • DrVanNostrand

      Nonsense woo-peddling pisses me off. But, yes, it is everything one would imagine it to be.

      • Other Scott

        Did someone say Woo?

      • Kemper Boyd

        I will admit I barely read it, I mainly laughed heartily at the photos.

        • Ms. Sweaterfan

          My favorite part was the juxtaposition of the pseudo-spiritual text (including bible passages!) with those extremely sexy pictures. But hey, that perfume oil ain’t gonna sell itself.

          • Kemper Boyd

            There is something about her sexy face that makes me laugh every time I think about it. Her cast photos are gold.

    • Mechanical Shark

      what the hell is this. oh my god as if I didn’t already want her back on. <3

  • sharculese

    PENNNNNNNNNNNERRRRRRRRRR!

    And Varner. That’s pretty cool, too.

    • Kemper Boyd

      I will take one more Penner and then I need everyone to admit that although he’s a good narrator he is a bad player.

      • sharculese

        Why does everyone assume Penner fans think he’s good at Survivor? We know he’s not, he’s just awesome anyway.

        • Kemper Boyd

          Some do, some do…

          I trust you to be reasonable about things Shar but not others.