Survivor: Game Changers Bonus Content Roundup – Week 7

Taako From Teevhii shares the best bonus scenes from the previous episode of Survivor: Game Changers.

If you’re like me, you have a Netflix problem. And not like an “I’m excessively watching Netflix to the point of functional impairment” problem, more like a “How am I supposed to choose what to watch?” problem (by the way, the answer is Documentary Now!). As you know if you’ve ever looked at a Yankee Candle display or a Cheesecake Factory menu, being burdened by options makes it harder to choose. And with all the bonus clips that come from a two-hour broadcast, we’ve got a lot of options. But worry no more because we’re about to cover the best bonus content from this week in Survivor, and you have to do nothing more than sit back, relax, and click play.

This Week In Secret Scenes

“We’re Gonna Have To Name Our Tribe”

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That really is a well-designed flag. Ozzy is wrong that it’s the best flag he’s ever had because Erik Reichenbach puts Enil Edam and Dabu at 1 and 2. But I’m comfortable with calling Maku Maku a Top 10 flag.

There’s not much to say about this moment, but I found it interesting: Sierra floats the tribe name Bula Bula (a Fijian greeting, for the unfamiliar), and Andrea quickly points out that Bula Bula was the tribe name in Fiji. Ya know, the season that aired a decade ago that half this cast probably hasn’t seen. We all like Andrea, right? Because if you don’t, you should just for this.

And it’s a portmanteau, Debbie.

“It’s Pretty Damn Clear Now”

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So it sounds like everything isn’t all smiles and sunshine in the Culpepper Clubhouse. In fact, it sounds like Brad and Debbie will cut each other as soon as their presence is no longer convenient. Maybe it’s always been this way, and maybe that’s just Survivor; but if they can’t maintain a working relationship, their alliance (which seems to currently be in the power position) could be headed for the rocks. On another note, Debbie’s use of the word “knickers” tells me that one of her previous jobs was Hollywood Boulevard Mary Poppins. And that shaky cam made everyone else think that Debbie was gonna jump Brad like Jason Bourne, right?

This Week In Confessionals

“A Lot of Tentacles”

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Did you catch that? Did it make you laugh? It made me laugh. Anyways, moving on.

“I Don’t See Any Reason To Get Fancy Too Early”

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Alright, all together now: What? Huh? Um … I guess that makes … no, wait, it doesn’t. What?

What we have here is a quite lengthy confessional wherein Zeke discusses why it would be completely foolish to turn on anyone from the original Nuku tribe. On the surface, that would seem to be in direct opposition to the gameplay we saw from Zeke last week. So what gives? Gut reaction: something spooked him and he felt like he needed to turn on Cirie and Andrea and abandon this strategy. But I would actually argue that Zeke is still sticking to this plan. After all, his vote was for Aubry at the last tribal; he may have been planning to Pagong the Manas before changing targets. His alerting Sierra might have been laying a plan that wouldn’t take effect for three more boots. The problem here is that he got caught by the people he was planning to betray down the road. It’s possible that the Zeke we saw last episode wasn’t a madcap maverick, just a sloppy strategist.

“They Are So Clueless To The Little Things That I’m Doing”

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Debbie is crazy. Crazy like a fox. I think. I’m still not convinced that her merge feast antics helped her, but I can see a thought process there. The fact that I’m even considering her to be a schemer must mean that she’s a schemer, right? But then again, “Mano.” Jeez, I dunno, man.

“I Wasn’t Surprised”

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On their own, each of these clips might not be worth discussing. Aubry gives a standard Aubry confessional, Andrea gives a typical Andrea confessional, and Sarah, well you get it. But it’s worth noting that from these clips, we can find that the merge feast twist was pointless. Brad and Tai were going to volunteer, and everyone knew that as soon as the twist was revealed. There were even more people who were ready to raise their hands. There was never any tension, and no drama came from this moment. Can anyone honestly say that Brad’s and Tai’s decisions will impact the game down the road? Andrea says yes, but really, Andrea? Really? I’m left hoping that this twist wasn’t symptomatic of the Big Brother-fication of Survivor.

This Week In Ponderosa

“A Middle Finger to Typical Life”

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Let’s speculate what Hali’s side projects are. My guesses: cross-stitched Constitution; Statue of Liberty made out of popsicle sticks; code for a simulation of the Philadelphia Convention; setting the Bill of Rights to the tune of “Jolene”.

Being the first juror is a bit like being at the losers’ Exile. You have no one to talk to and are left alone with your thoughts and regrets. Within twelve hours, Hali presents four different theories as to why she was voted out, which is either a sign of having no one to talk to or a sign of Hali being Hali.

It is also ironic that Hali says she will only vote for a true shot-caller to win.

“I Wanna Really Enjoy The Journey”

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After being voted out, one of the first things Ozzy laments is not having a likeminded person who enjoys the survival aspect like he does. It raises the question, what season was primed for an Ozzy win? It would have to be old-school, but it couldn’t be inland because a dolphin needs water, and can you tell I don’t have much to say about this Ponderosa? Ozzy is boring (I said it). One thing that is probably worth noting though is that Ponderosa is much better produced compared to previous seasons. A trip to the market is so much more interesting than “Toothpaste!” every episode. However as those two inaudible minutes at the end will show, there’s still a ways to go.

This Week In Gifable Moments

When you remember how badly Michelle Yi was twist-screwed

When someone thinks jokes about Troy’s donger are funny

Taako From Teevhii

Taako From Teevhii

Taako first learned of Survivor when his buddy Merle said he’d vote their friend Ango off the island. After a google search and one episode, he became a fan and never looked back.

Favorite Seasons: China, Heroes vs Villains, Philippines, Cagayan, Cambodia

Favorite Players: Kelley Wentworth, Sandra Diaz-Twine, Kim Spradlin, Denise Stapley, Todd Herzog, Courtney Yates, Yul Kwon
Taako From Teevhii
  • Kemper Boyd

    I strongly approve of your favorite players.
    Ozzie is Captain Boring.

    • He’s 4/5 with me on top 5 seasons…

      • Blurry Denzel

        What’s your fifth?

        • AO.

          • Blurry Denzel

            Shit, I should’ve known that. Where do you rank Micronesia after watching it?

          • I am thinking 8th or 9th overall.

  • Mike Hirsch

    Documentary Now! is great. I’ve watched the Test Pattern – Final Transmission one five times now, I think.

    • Taako From Teevhii

      The Eye Doesn’t Lie (The Thin Blue Line) remains my favorite.

      • Mike Hirsch

        !JAZZ!

  • purplerockandy

    This is a new feature we’re planning on having every Monday, so that we’ll have somewhere to comment throughout the week. Let us know what you think of it and how young Taako is doing.

    • Blurry Denzel

      I like this feature and props to Taako (the loser in our fantasy baseball matchup) for the post. Good job by him. I’ll take any Aubry content where I can get it.

      • Taako From Teevhii

        Not starting Jason Heyward and Tim Anderson cost me a matchup. Whoda thunk it?

        • Blurry Denzel

          I was surprised I pulled it out. I think my team had 9 homers between Thursday and Sunday. I was pathetic on offense before that.

          • purplerockandy

            It only took me losing first two draft picks to injury to finally win a week.

          • Taako From Teevhii

            It was close. In every offensive category I think it was decided by one or two

    • Taako From Teevhii

      Let us know what you think of it and how young Taako is doing.

      Be honest, but please be gentle.

      • BadPlayer91

        Definitely enjoyed. More convenient than finding these videos myself, and knowing you were already doing it in the comments weekly, it was nice to see a formalized and cleaned up version. Thanks!

        • I like this because it appeals to my laziness. I don’t want to watch all the bonus videos, and I’d generally skip the players I don’t like. But if Taako informs me that Troy talks some shit about Kim in a bonus video, I may just have to rage-watch it.

      • Saturday Night Palsy

        I’ve been nice for a while. Let me mull it over.

      • indescribable hat

        You’re doing super! I strongly support having worthwhile bonus content packaged here with some quippy commentary.

        Unrelated news: I bought Drag Race Season 9 and caught up on a long bus ride, so next week will bring an end to my crippling FOMO.

      • You’re perfecy, you’re beautiful. You’re a moooooodel. You look like Linda Evangelista.

  • Roswulf

    It’s really hard to come up with a season better positioned for an Ozzy win than Cook Islands. It let him play the likable swashbuckling hero just by virtue of swimming good, and had lots of players in Ozzy’s demographic wheelhouse..

    Ain’t his fault he ran into the perfect human with the perfect idol.

    • That jury was stacked in Ozzy’s favor with a lot of younger people, but his problem was that he did not make enough of the connections with the older or more serious people like Candice, Penner, or even Sundra.

  • Blurry Denzel

    Bonus story of my own. I went to the NYC reality meet up on Saturday. It was an incredibly fun experience. One of the people I was most excited to meet for the first time was Courtney Yates. I got an opportunity to catch her alone and immediately started talking about The West Wing, a show we both enjoy. I also mentioned PRP by name and that the community here worships her. That information didn’t freak her out, so that’s positive. Also, she and Francesca both complimented my jacket, so now I have to wear it all the time. Here’s a picture. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c7283dcfa21e3194e1b40c3f9a06c32bf35772b467b28943305a885c0e30acd6.jpg

  • giorgos

    Oh boy that Debbie delusion. I wish I had 1/10th of her confidence in my real life

  • Diego Armando

    Great job Taako. I hope you stick with this feature longer than Andy did.

    • Well, Taako has a bit of an advantage over Andy since he can see all of the footage legally without going to Reddit for help.

    • prettyboyprobst

      Not sure if I just can’t remember Andy’s attempt at doing something like this, or if it was before my time here, but I definitely like this.

      It always puzzled me why Rob never made room to talk about the extra material on a regular basis in his 7+ hours of podcasting a week. I guess there are weeks where there’s not much to talk about, but he could just have one of his many correspondents go through it and call in for a round-up.

      • Diego Armando

        He did a top 5 videos per week during Worlds Apart. Then he realized that most weeks did not have 5 interesting videos and stopped around the time the season went to shit.

        • purplerockandy

          It was also difficult managing that post AND the podcast right after the episode. Then CBS stopped making them available to me.

          But mostly, I didn’t want to do it anymore.

        • prettyboyprobst

          This checks out. 2nd chance interviews and Hype posts are what brought me here, Worlds Apart was before my time.

  • Ms. Sweaterfan

    I love this new feature! I even read the whole article instead of skipping straight to the comments 😉

    I watched the two Ponderosa videos, and my random thoughts were:
    -the resort food this season seems a bit lame – hopefully people will start ordering burgers and pizza (I like looking at delicious food)
    -Hali says she will always sacrifice a job for a new experience; future employers take note
    -as obnoxious as Ozzy can be on the island, I can’t help but think he might actually be a good guy deep down (or maybe Ponderosa videos are just really well produced)
    -is Ozzy actually a chef? I liked that we got to see the trip to the market. Hopefully there is more of that to come
    -Ozzy was hoping that some fun people would join them next. Who is the ideal next juror in terms of Ponderosa quality? Andrea would probably complement Hali and Ozzy well and bring some fun and positivity (not that I want her to be voted out next).

    • Taako From Teevhii

      I don’t know who’s coming to Ponderosa next, but I know Ozzy will get his wish as all the fun players are getting booted from the island.

      • Ms. Sweaterfan

        Haha so true – Ponderosa quality will be inversely proportionate to the quality of the cast remaining in the game, so we are most likely in for the best Ponderosa ever 😀 / 🙁

        • indescribable hat

          I recently rewatched HvV and then the HvV Ponderosa, which I submit as a top tier Ponderosa. You’ve got The Dragons, JT at his most charming, everyone generally being a good sport, Amanda Kimmel finally escaping a game of Survivor with her emotional stability intact…

    • He is a restaurant manager, so he may have some deep experience with cooking food besides frying fish up at Redemption Island.

    • Blurry Denzel

      I think Ozzy is a good guy that can be very douchey and obnoxious but he can’t pull off those moments in a likeable fashion. I would hang out with him.

      • Ms. Sweaterfan

        He seems like he would really benefit from a non-reality TV affiliated life partner and maybe a kid (sort of like Aras’s set up – seems to have been very balancing)

      • UseYourCommonSense

        He is entitled. He thinks just because he caught fish for everyone they should hand him the winnings.

        • Roswulf

          To be fair, some of those were really cool lookin’ fish.

        • Ms. Sweaterfan

          I agree that he comes off as bratty and entitled in Survivor and clearly doesn’t seem to understand that your tribe mates don’t owe you anything (even when you’re providing fish) but all I’m saying is I don’t see that this necessarily is his non-Survivor personality. Maybe it is, but he seemed super chill and introspective at Ponderosa.

        • Blurry Denzel

          Absolutely. I think Ozzy has a lot of flaws like a sense of entitlement that rushes to the surface in a game like Survivor. Outside of that bubble he seems mostly chill.

          • BadPlayer91

            I agree, definitely a sense of entitlement. He also seems to expect that everyone approach life in the same way as he does, and looks down upon those who don’t. I wouldn’t say he’s a bad guy, and certainly he doesn’t have a malicious intent, rather these are just character flaws. And of course, when you put them to the test in Survivor, they have to stand out.

            I think Ozzy is such a conundrum of a survivor player. He manages to excel in the challenge and survival elements of the game to such a degree that it overcomes his mediocre-at-best strategic and social skills. How do we rate him as a player? Almost won on two occasions, but all his boots boil down to “He didn’t win immunity, so he got taken out”

  • You pose an interesting question because it seems like either Cook Islands or (especially) Micronesia were prime for an Ozzy win. If we took those seasons out of the running, then I think Ozzy has a shot of winning SJDS (not a lot of hard-core fans on the jury, but there were a lot of bros) and maybe Philippines (similar set-up as SJDS).

    • Purplerockmatt

      also lets not forget, Ozzy came within one challenge win of winning South Pacific, and he definitely would have won in front of that jury. A Redemption Island season seems like his best bet because he can win challenges and not be a part of camp life and pissing people off

      • That’s a solid point. He may have even done better in front of the Redemption Island jury than the SoPa jury because of how many of them valued hard work and not being the worst person.

  • prettyboyprobst

    It’s been a few days since I watched these Ponderosa clips. Hali’s
    was cool and Ozzy’s ok, but was I hearing things or did it really sound
    like Ozzy was low-key proposing to Hali when they were having the
    fish-dip dinner together?

    One thing that is probably worth noting though is that Ponderosa is much better produced compared to previous seasons. A trip to the market is so much more interesting than “Toothpaste!” every episode.

    Oh noes, this gave me flash backs to “The Jury Villa”, Australian Survivor’s version of Ponderosa and the dullest, most wooden way to go about a series like this. It had barely anything worth watching in there anyways (although production tried to instigate some drama), but every episode closed on a good 2-3 minutes of “Voted out player reacts to room, suitcase, cosmetic goods etc.” – always the same formula.

    However as those two inaudible minutes at the end will show, there’s still a ways to go.

    I think something like this has been their approach to Ponderosa since Cambodia, if I’m not mistaken.
    You get visually much better shots and it seems they put more thoughts into what they include, but overall it feels much more like a heartfelt thank you note to each of the jury members by production (which can be cool when you really care about them), or giving us the essence of each subject player when looked at in the right light, than just an account of whatever happened between tribals at Ponderosa and could be of interest to the viewers, like it used to be (I think).
    I could be wrong and keep fonder memories of previous Ponderosa seasons than they deserve, but it feels like my enjoyment of the them has not gone up with the production value.

    • Purplerockmatt

      If you are asking did Ozzy and Hali bone in Ponderosa, my opinion is that they definitely did

      • Ms. Sweaterfan

        That flirting over breakfast in Ozzy’s video?? I’d ship that.

        • prettyboyprobst

          Hali said she has a boyfriend. Do we know it’s not Ozzy?

          • Ms. Sweaterfan

            Their kids would have amazing hair

          • prettyboyprobst

            Unbelievable hair. So much hair.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            I really don’t understand which part of “on my desk first thing Monday morning” is so confusing!

          • prettyboyprobst

            Have you even checked how many extra scenes there are this week? And how long they run? Someone in our league office has to watch them. I mean, I like this new feature and young Taako is a promising addition to the PRP pool of regular guest writers, but I don’t think we can yet rely solely on him not to miss anything of importance. We are the best 5-team-league ever assembled, after all, and have a reputation to uphold.

            Besides, nobody showed up for the re-draft last monday. :´(

      • prettyboyprobst

        I certainly wouldn’t rule it out, but I think I heard him say something about settling down, and how nice it would be to always have somebody to talk with about everything.

        Of course, that could have been merely a ploy to get things moving into the direction you were talking about.

      • BadPlayer91

        I like to hope that this was the first half of Ozzy proposing they bone, and Hali being like ‘Nah brah” and him being all butt-hurt about it. But they cut out the second half because Ozzy cried so much it was really awkward….

        • Ms. Sweaterfan

          And he made her that romantic fish dinner and everything!

          • BadPlayer91

            He was mostly crying because it caused the collapse of his world view. He caught fish and provided for her, why didn’t he get a million dollars/Hali love?

          • Ms. Sweaterfan

            LOL I love that Ozzy’s worldview is primarily fish-based. I picture him going around LA with a pocketful of minnows getting increasingly frustrated that no one will accept them in exchange for goods and services 😛

          • indescribable hat

            Actually literally laughing out loud at this right now.

      • indescribable hat

        Honestly it seems like a waste of Ponderosa not to.

  • tocantins

    All videos are really good. I agree that there seems to be some chemistry going on between Ozzy and Hali. (Besides the “nothing to do” factor, which I assume must already by quite an aphrodisiac.) I also agree with Ozzy that very few things bother me more than people with loose handshakes.

    I disagree about the two-people-don’t-eat twist. This is the kind of low-key twist that I don’t mind seeing more often. (As opposed to the vote-together twist or the 7 idols in play at once.) It doesn’t have a huge effect in the game, but it shakes things up a bit. I think the confessionals agree with that: it seems that Brad and Tai’s image got a big boost for giving up the food, and this can have subtle but important effects later on.

    Other than that, great Brad confessionals! (I’m really starting to like him.) I’ll throw the question: is he a top-5 all-time winner?

    • Taako From Teevhii

      Is Brad a top-5 all-time winner?

      Kim, Yul, Sandra x2, Denise, Jeremy, JT, Hatch, and some more. I’d say no, even if he pulls out this win.

      • tocantins

        Well, actually the question was a little tongue-in-cheek: the idea was to make a bit of fun of the fact that we are barely over half of the season, and yet it seems so established that Brad is winning that we can already discuss how he places as a winner.

        That said, I honestly feel that if things shape up as they appear to, his game style will be very resembling to Kim’s. (Considered by many one of the best winners.) He built and apparently led a stable alliance from beginning to end, not giving much chance for anyone to get him or shake things up. And I don’t think I’ve heard a single person (besides Debbie) speak any ill of him at all. Everyone adores him there.

        • Figaro

          Even based of that secret scene Brad’s doing a remarkably good job of managing Debbie and keeping her crazy and/or paranoia in check. And in his ‘Tentacle’ confessional it seems like he may have some sort of connection with Cirie – which makes me desperately hope that Cirie can go far into the game.

        • prettyboyprobst

          That’s all fine and dandy, but how did Brad *evolve the game*?

    • Max_Jets

      There is still a lot of game left to play, but it’s very unlikely. Past reputations is a huge factor in strategy this season and he benefits greatly from it.

    • Ms. Sweaterfan

      The thing I liked about the merge feast twist was that the two people who didn’t eat had to go sit off somewhere by themselves away from the group. It didn’t really have a huge payoff here, though it did give Tai and Brad some time to re-solidify their alliance. Could have been really cool if it had been two unconnected players who got to bond over their sacrifices – or, on the flip side, if the feasters had plotted against the non-feasters. Though with that many people at the merge, it really discourages sticking your neck out either way (a general problem with huge merges, but I digress…)

      • tocantins

        I think that the thing that “saved” Brad and Tai, in a sense, is that people believed that they were genuine when refusing the feast. If someone like Zeke had given up the feast, people would see that as a move (although a really bad one), and it would make people angry and suspicious.

        But I imagine that in most seasons no one would take up on the offer. I mean, it is a lose-lose situation: you don’t eat AND you get a target on your back.

        • BadPlayer91

          I think there is a great point in here: “in another season” I would say, for so many of these twists, if they were in a different season we would be all aboard. Even if they shook out differently in this season. Like, if you are production, thinking through these twists, you are probably hoping for something golden. What if Sandra and Cirie had both made the merge, and decided to use this as a chance to do some scheming. That could have been such gold. They lay the foundation for an unbeatable alliance, then fake a screaming match, force way between everyone else, and ride to victory?

          But, the reality is a bit more meh. We get Tai and Brad, they are both already aligned with each other and with people at the feast, so there isn’t potential for movement. What could have been a very interesting twist instead seems a bit lack luster.

          And, on top of that, the less interesting players are the ones benefiting from these twists, or in this case, no getting hurt by them at all, so of course they would leave a bitter taste. They aren’t the outcome we want!

          • Ms. Sweaterfan

            This is especially true for me with the stupid Exile boat twist – if it had been Aubry it would have been my favorite twist of the season XD
            Then again I never claimed my opinions were logical or consistent 😛

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            I still maintain that Ozzy would have been the best.

        • Ms. Sweaterfan

          Oh yeah giving up your own share of a feast to benefit the tribe is completely on brand for a Culpepper. WWMD!
          But yeah when the two most genuine and selfless people do it, it’s gotta be hard to question their sincerity. Also, who would have thought going into this season that anyone would be describing Brad as genuine and selfless??

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            I describe him as “neat”.

          • indescribable hat

            The only adjective I am constitutionally capable of applying to a Culpepper.

          • prettyboyprobst

            I wonder if we’ll get something like a What Monica didn’t do hashtag later in the season. That would erase any last doubts I still have about the OWFYBC-edit.

    • prettyboyprobst

      I also agree with Ozzy that very few things bother me more than people with loose handshakes.

      She’s a lady!

  • tocantins

    I was looking at the other videos, and I came upon a quote from Aubry: “I really love Cirie; she is wonderful. But I don’t want to get too close to her, because I might have to slit her throat, and she could become Debbie part two.”

    I think that this quote encapsulates a lot about how I feel that game bots are not very good at Survivor, and even why they don’t make good TV.

    • Max_Jets

      I’m not sure I understand. Is Aubry the game bot (or rather, becoming a gamebot) in this context? I think it’s likely the wrong read, but she’s also reacting to a past mistake, which is the way her relationship with Debbie made Debbie less forgiving of Aubry’s betrayal.

      • tocantins

        Usually the idea with game bots is that they focus too much on strategy (and to me particularly focus on making Big Moves™) and that prevents them from making meaningful (social) connections with people.

        Here Aubry is (in my opinion) clearly over-strategizing: she has basically no allies in the game; she has very little to lose and a decent lot to win by becoming good friends with Cirie. I doubt that she could win against her in FTC, but Cirie is relatively easy to take out at F3. (And in any case she is no closer to winning as it stands right now.) Yet she is thinking several moves ahead about blindsiding Cirie and getting her jury vote, instead of doing the “simple move” of make friends and allies.

        • Max_Jets

          I didn’t really read it as her planning on taking out Cirie anytime soon (perhaps she even is thinking of taking her out right before FTC) or even that she doesn’t want to become good friends with Cirie. She can still make a meaningful connection without relying on Cirie for comfort in the same way she did with Debbie during her anxiety attack, for example. It was an actual mistake in her game that she could have avoided, and she is trying to avoid it now. She should be thinking about these things if she wants to win. Aubry is well aware that she needs to make meaningful connections with people to make moves – we saw that throughout Kaoh Rong – so I don’t think this points to her being bad at the game in that particular way.

    • Roswulf

      Whelp, Aubry is now dead to me and consigned to the outer darkness for even suggesting that Cirie could be “Debbie part 2”,

      Admittedly Cirie does have a history of being genuinely hurt by even late-game betrayals that send her packing…but that comparison CAN. NOT. STAND.

      • Saturday Night Palsy

        You know what really works here? #CaucasianCirie!

  • DrVanNostrand

    This is a great feature, and Taako is doing great. However, jokes about Troy’s dong are the only way to salvage some entertainment value from a garbage person. Also, as I’ve said before, it’s the only thing that explains the enigma that is Troy.

    • Saturday Night Palsy

      Troy is delightful and has a hidden immunity idol. I expect him to be the downfall of Culpepper. #SummerOfTroyzan

  • Taako From Teevhii

    Even if no one else sees this, I have to say that I just finished The Genius S4E3 and

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7359898073f9b5ee35b4cafd5c8f2bf9ce553a5c6a708fa8b3337819912e1dba.gif

    • Saturday Night Palsy

      Ha ha! #CaucasianCirie!

      • Taako From Teevhii

        This is honestly a worse and more distressing hashtag than #CaucasianWoo so, good job, I guess?

        • Saturday Night Palsy

          We don’t do that one around here anymore. I mean, excellent article and all (for real), but let’s move on.

    • K-Hound! *shakes fist*

      • Taako From Teevhii

        It just kills me that There three distinct times in that episode alone where Sangmin got screwed over by Kyunghoon. If only he had kept to the plan in E1, there could’ve been a Sangmin/Dongmin/Hyunmin/Kyungran/Jinho alliance and it would’ve been beautiful

        • I’ll reserve my thoughts on this until you’ve finished the season.

  • Taako From Teevhii

    Also, since this is a post all about clips, did is anyone else excited for this?

    This trailer didn’t have the tone I’m hoping the movie will have, but I’m excited nonetheless.

  • purplerockandy

    I wish I had watched these earlier when people might’ve noticed the comments, but I think Zeke’s video might shine a LOT of light on his motivations to do what he did. Of note:
    -He considers Sarah and Ozzy to be his closest allies. Not Cirie and Andrea, despite what the show has been telling us/what you all are assuming.
    -He thinks Andrea will cut him in a heartbeat (whether or not you think that’s true, it’s what he believes).
    -He thinks it’s a big mistake to be working with former Manas, who he barely knows and doesn’t trust. Aubry and Michaela were ESSENTIAL to Cirie’s plan (and, it should be noted, Cirie’s allies, not his).

    So when looked it from his perspective: Andrea (who he doesn’t trust long term) and Cirie were the ones upsetting the apple cart and trying to elevate two Manas into his alliance. Even if he goes with them, that puts two of them in the final six, which is not in his plans at all. So if that’s the case, and they’re forcing action of breaking up Nuku early, he may as well make his move to stay Mana strong. And by throwing Andrea and Cirie under the bus, that might protect Ozzy.

    Where he screwed up was not securing Ozzy before doing any of this. And in convincing Sierra and Debbie that he was more with them than with Andrea.

    • prettyboyprobst

      While the video was helpful in shining a light on Zeke’s perspective on that vote and what went into his decision (and I think you were on the right track in the podcast, iirc), I still think there is plenty to criticize when assessing his move. So much, that I don’t think it’s results-based thinking at all to take all of that into account and still call it the wrong move.

      …convincing Sierra and Debbie that he was more with them than with Andrea.

      This is the big one. If he couldn’t convince these people that moving against Andrea’s side was his honest intention, then that’s probably a good sign that these same people either don’t think it would be in his best interest to do so, or think of him as someone who’s always scheming.

      If the latter is already the case, that should be reason enough to lay low and not initiate his own big moves so quickly after the merge, but let’s look at why a Sierra, Debbie or Tai could have had a hard time taking him at face value here:
      Zeke, Sarah, Ozzy and Andrea were on the same tribe all throughout the game. Cirie only got separated from them briefly in the second swap.
      I assume people on the island also know about the Survivor Brooklyn connection, but I could be wrong. I also don’t think that Zeke is hiding his super fan giddiness, which could be another reason for not only people at home to assume he would be more excited to play with Andrea and Cirie, than say, Sierra.

      So instead of going with the side that would probably have four of the people he spent the most time with on the island, and who consider themselves to be in an alliance with him, he decided that he would rather rely on Debbie’s and Tai’s willingness to fall in line behind him and work with the Sierra/Brad power core going forward, who he had not spoken to from around day 6 all the way to the merge. All because he doesn’t trust Mana and is afraid Andrea would cut him at any time? He *knows* everybody else would cut him at anytime, as they won’t even believe him when he says he wants to work with them.
      Not being the one who feeds intel to others, but getting fed intel from Andrea on this vote seemed to have been a bigger concern for him, as the show told us as well.

      Wanting to get rid of the Manas first is all fine and dandy, in an ideal world, but I think people expect Zeke to be player enough to adapt to the circumstances. So what if they would need two Manas for a vote or two, if everything (apart from his ego) speaks for that side. As long as you can gauge that they will vote with you, which I think Cirie could sufficiently (it didn’t seem like Aubry and Michaela had any other great options), that should be good enough at that point.
      Here is a group that is big enough to get rid of the other half of the tribe, and he has good reason to be confident about his ability to form different final three combos from the five strong “trust center” of that group.

      And the other side has a Mana voting with them too, and Zeke should know about the Troy-FYBC connection from the Second Chances pre-gaming. So he should also know that the danger of being replaced by a Mana is arguably even higher on the Culpepper-side.

      Where all of that falls apart is with Sarah wanting to move against Ozzy (which is also really not speaking for Zeke, if he considers both of them to be his closest allies). Would she have kept that on the backburner, if Zeke had not worked against the Tavua-group first? Or would she have been game for Debbie’s plan no matter what?

      • purplerockandy

        I would not expect any other person there to either A) know about their Survivor Brooklyn connection or B) have heard of Survivor Brooklyn (well, maybe Aubry on the second one).