We’re one elimination away from the midway point (in terms of number of players). Read on to see how the staff came to their predictions of who the tenth boot will be in Survivor Cambodia.
Andy: So… is there any point to us doing these predictions when we’re so awful at them?
Matt: Even more of a point!
Emma: The readers probably enjoy laughing at us.
Andy: But our logic wasn’t bad. Stephen was on the line for a while.
And, STEPHEN NEVER BEAT SAVAGE. The edit never pointed there.
John: Oddly, none of us threw out Kelley as a possibility.
Emma: Well, we know she has an idol
Andy: She has an idol. We’re not stupid.
John: No, I meant as a target, sorry.
Matt: Yeah, I was surprised they targeted her.
Emma: Anyway, I think things could really blow up next week.
Matt: I disagree; I think Savage going shakes the majority enough they look for an easy vote or perhaps target Kelley because of a new danger.
Andy: I think the Stephen vs Joe tension is something that could be exploited.
Emma: Joe was protected by Savage. None of the others were really opposed to voting for him.
John: Two part question, then, because it’s relevant to Joe:
1. Who jumps off for that advantage next week and gets to it first.?
2. Does it actually help them beat Joe in a challenge (if it’s that kind of advantage)?
Andy: I’m guessing the advantage is hidden idol related. And… shouldn’t Joe go for it? Doesn’t he have a better chance at out-swimming everyone than out-standing on small footholds?
John: YES. Because I’m assuming that’s a reward challenge they’re competing in. If it’s the immunity challenge, the decision is much tougher.
Andy: I don’t think it’s a reward challenge. They don’t tend to do endurance challenges for reward. Because you get people to give up endurance challenges with the temptation of reward.
John: But who gives up a shot at immunity for a shot at something that might help you be immune?
Matt: Someone who knows they are losing that challenge
Emma: STEPHEN! (It’s never his challenge)
Andy: Stephen isn’t out-swimming anybody.
John: Stephen and Ciera, haplessly flailing towards the advantage!
John: Yeah. They probably both drown. And Abi floats on their unconscious bodies out to the buoys.
Matt: And then complains about it.
Andy: But, this is a serious question for Joe. He probably has better odds in a swimming challenge… but, he needs immunity.
Emma: Yeah, and if he gets the idol, he’s just going to have to use it that night anyway, right? Like, the move has to be to immediately flush it.
Andy: Who outswims Joe in a race? Maybe Wiglesworth?
Matt: She can’t even out-paddle Gervase.
John: If she jumps in fast enough, maybe.
Andy: But Wiglesworth probably doesn’t go for it.
John: Yeah, she’s just…inert. Strategically, at least.
Andy: Right, her MO is to just compete (especially because this is a challenge she could win). Whereas, this is a tough challenge for a big dude. I mean, Joe could still win it because he has great balance and all the yoga stuff, but still. He’s tall.
John: So if this is taking place at the immunity challenge, I don’t think Joe jumps.
Andy: Because bird in hand?
John: And I think he ends up winning.
John: Yes. Because the advantage is an unknown. Immunity is a known quantity.
John: Do we think that everyone on the bottom jumps?
Emma: I think most the girls are going to jump in.
John: Ciera, Abi, Kelley, Stephen, all racing?
Emma: So Joe’s female competition is basically Tasha and Wigles. Wigles could win the challenge, but idk man, Joe is something else.
Matt: Oddly, I think Wigles is the tougher competition there.
Emma: I agree.
Matt: Joe really is absurd.
Andy: The issue is that endurance challenges also come down to motivation. Who’s more motivated to win immunity than Joe? Maybe Wentworth, but maybe she gets the advantage because she knows that idols and challenges are connected this season.
Matt: Good point Andy.
John: Oh, I assume Kelley is jumping in. Just because for her the odds of getting/using that advantage are far more in her favor than winning that challenge.
Mark: Good point. And Jeremy?
Andy: I have no assessment of Jeremy’s swimming skills. I imagine he’s adequate?
Matt: This is really not Jeremy’s challenge.
Emma: Too muscular for balance, yeah? And Jeremy already has an idol. I don’t think Jeremy wants the target of a known advantage.
John: Yeah, Jeremy shouldn’t. But because he’s in a great spot. He’s got connections everywhere and nobody seems to talk about it.
Matt: What about Spencer?
Matt: Spencer could easily win this race and is also tall.
Andy: This is true. But I think he’s flying UTR.
John: Spencer is an interesting one. He might jump in.
Matt: I think he does and I think he could win.
John: Because he’s in with that main group, but he’s on the fringes.
Matt: I think he is basically one of the few people in that main group that knows for a fact that they are on the bottom.
Andy: But isn’t that an argument to NOT put a target on you?
Matt: I think it could work both ways Andy.
John: Once the numbers get low enough, the target is on you anyway. When the time comes, have the advantage.
Andy: But is an advantage everyone knows about a great advantage?
John: Yes. Because you can lie about it.
Andy: Maybe the advantage is two votes?
Matt: I was thinking that Andy
Emma: Wouldn’t be shocking.
John: You can say it’s whatever you need it to be. Two votes, an idol, something else entirely.
Mark: Nah. Idols. Too conveniently timed.
Andy: Anyway, another very interesting twist for this season. Lots of great ideas. Survivor really stepped up their game.
John: Yeah. To all the people that hate production interference: Fuck you. This is great. Super excited to see all the “There goes production saving Spencer again!” tweets.
Andy: Production really dropped the ball protecting Savage this week.
Matt: They tried to tell him to go after Stephen!
Andy: Where were the interviews convincing Kelley et al to target wimpy Stephen?
Matt: There are basically two scenarios this coming week and every week: Joe is immune or Joe isn’t immune.
John: Assume A) until B) happens.
Matt: Correct. So, assuming A, what happens?
Andy: It’s a tough dilemma: if you just want to get one prediction right, you could keep predicting Joe. But I feel like you may pile up Ls that way.
John: The smart move would be for Joe to get with the betas and take out Jeremy or Spencer. I’d probably get Spencer first, because there’s less blowback.
Mark: Or do they get out Ciera as a shit stirrer?
Andy: Fishbach. Joe should target Fishbach. Maybe with Spencer on his side.
John: Why? How does that help Joe?
Emma: I think it’s feasible for Joe to go with the girls
Andy: Tres Amigas, Joe and Spencer. That gets you five. Keith and Kelly go with the numbers.
Emma: Joe has a relationship with Kelley and Ciera. Joe easily pulls in Keith.
John: Again, though, why? Joe’s path to the end is not alliances. It’s immunity.
Andy: Both would be nice.
Matt: But Joe needs an alliance to get rid of who he wants
John: Right. So grab the betas and take out Spencer or Jeremy.
Matt: He doesn’t have the votes to get out Spencer.
Andy: That too.
John: Then Jeremy. He needs to take out challenge competition. He could even target Tasha. But she hasn’t been great at challenges so far.
Matt: I don’t think Keith and Kelly come over to take out Jeremy. Tasha, maybe.
Andy: Why are you against the plan of Joe voting out the person he wanted to vote out this week?
John: Because how does that help him?
Andy: Three more days.
Emma: Stephen wants to vote him out.
John: SO DOES EVERYONE ELSE!
Emma: Not as aggressively.
Andy: Jeremy doesn’t seem to want to, at least not in Joe’s eyes.
John: They might say otherwise, but he has to realize that’s not true.
Andy: I’m not convinced anyone was actually on board with Stephen’s plan. I think they were patronizing him. “Yeah, sure Stephen. Maybe we’ll do that”.
Emma: Might as well say yes to Stephen until Joe inevitably wins the challenge. Also this is less about should and more about would/could.
John: Right. So if you’re Joe and you want to make an actual move, it shouldn’t be Stephen.
Andy: Stephen might be the only move you can make.
Matt: I think there is value in targeting the loudest voice against you.
John: It should be someone that might keep you from the one thing that keeps you in the game.
Andy: Alright, lay out the “Joe votes out Spencer” plan. Because I don’t think it exists.
John: I’m not saying he could do it. I’m saying those two (Jeremy and Spencer) should be his targets.
Emma: If he can’t do it, they shouldn’t be his targets.
John: And he should put out feelers to see if Kelley, Abi, Ciera, etc. will even do it.
Mark: A Jeremy blindside, that is.
Andy: That’s four. Not enough.
John: Yes. I understand how numbers work. But those three are where you start.
Andy: Or… you start with an achievable goal. That’s also an acceptable outcome.
John: Yeah, so he takes out Stephen, and six days from now Spencer beats him in an immunity challenge.
Andy: REMOVING SPENCER IS NOT AN OPTION FOR HIM. STOP TALKING ABOUT IT.
John: You’re right. He should take out the guy that fails in the first 3 seconds of an immunity challenge. That will help Joe’s plan to go on an immunity streak.
Andy: What is your suggestion he should do that he can actually do then?
Mark: I think you’re kind of hung up on Joe Immunity Win.
Emma: Well what, should he target Keith then? Spencer came in second once. Keith came in second once.
John: If Wentworth gets the idol again, you go to her and say, “I’ve got a deal for you”. Joe is immune, gets his crew to put the votes on Kelley (or even Ciera, who Kelley plays the idol on). Joe indirectly calls the shot.
Andy: So… your plan is dependent on A) Kelley getting an idol and B) him knowing she gets the idol. If that unlikely scenario doesn’t come about, what should Joe’s plan be?
John: Joe gets the majority to split on Kelley/Ciera. Joe flips.
Matt: Do you think any of this will happen?
Mark: So are we actually predicting next week or writing fanfic?
Matt: John is writing fanfic.
Emma: He is apparently a bigger Joe fan than we realized.
John: Ha! I hope Joe loses and just gets voted out. He won’t, though.
Andy: So Joe takes the leadership role in the alliance? Is this an option for him?
John: I think Jeremy is the leader, but he doesn’t show it. And now he can’t hide behind Savage.
Andy: But… you said Joe gets the call the shot.
Emma: Shhh, I think we’re returning to reality.
Mark: Right, now he hides behind Joe
John: For the love of god.
Andy: (This is the part where John acts like he’s not the one alone on an island and I’m the obtuse one).
John: “What should Joe do?” is not “What will happen?” Nor is it “What will Joe do?”
Emma: THIS IS A PREDICTIONS THREAD!!!
Matt: Then why are we talking about it in the predictions thread?!?
John: BECAUSE YOU GUYS ASKED THE FUCKING QUESTION!
Emma: Because you were predicting weird shit!
Andy: Anyone want to make a real prediction then? Here’s what I got: the big alliance just gets back together and votes out Kelley.
Matt: Wentworth. Yep, exactly Andy (though it might be the same thing with Ciera).
Emma: Ironically, this time I’m picking Stephen.
Andy: If the alliance was to splinter, then Stephen.
John: I’m with Emma.
Andy: Wait, what?
John: “What should Joe do?” is not “What will happen?” Nor is it “What will Joe do?”
Andy: Now he’s just trolling us.
Matt: So wait, Joe organizes the Stephen vote? That is the prediction?
Mark: This got hostile. Break out the middle fingers.
John: Joe’s best move is not voting out Stephen (if he can control the vote). But that doesn’t mean he won’t do it.
Mark: Same as last week: between Ciera and Stephen. Alphas target Ciera as a shit stirrer because they’re scared of Wentworth. Underdogs target the one who wants their big guy out.
Andy: This is the part where I remind Mark he needs to pick one.
Mark: If you wait, haha. I’m going to land on the Ciera side. Stephen goes soon though. So much new negative content.
Matt: Actually wait… I’m predicting Ciera because Ciera and Kass is Ponderosa hell for Savage.
Emma: If you need more explanation, I say Joe brings Keith and Spencer back to Kelley and gets out Stephen and then I get very sad and conflicted.
Mark: But he’s got his fairy godfireman.
Andy: For the record, I was going to discuss the potential of what Emma is suggesting, until someone decided to get into a weird discussion of what Joe should do instead of what Joe can do.
John: Oh man, we missed Andy covering his own hypothetical? I’m so sorry for taking up that time, guys!
Emma: Covering his actual prediction…
My prediction, actually.
Andy: My hypothetical that Emma and maybe you came to the same conclusion of? Yeah, that would’ve been a waste of time.
Andy: You think I want to have this discussion again?
John: Ha. I do wonder if you guys think Andy and I are actually being hostile towards each other.
Mark: No you’re just catty. There’s a difference
Emma: LIKE CHICKS. JUST A COUPLE OF CATTY CHICKS.
Andy: Like two assholes with the exact same flaws.
What do you guys think? Check the appropriate button (unless you’ve been spoiled) and leave a comment at the bottom if you’re up for it. Also, does this post still have value? Do you find it entertaining?
- Stephen Fishbach (27% Votes)
- Ciera Eastin (25% Votes)
- Joe Anglim (22% Votes)
- Kelley Wentworth (13% Votes)
- Kimmi Kappenberg (3% Votes)
- Kelly Wiglesworth (3% Votes)
- Tasha Fox (3% Votes)
- Keith Nale (1% Votes)
- Jeremy Collins (1% Votes)
- Spencer Bledsoe (0% Votes)
- Abi-Maria Gomes (0% Votes)
Total Voters: 67
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