Survivor: Game Changers Fantasy League Purple Rock Staff Draft

Fantasy Survivor is a major feature of the Purple Rock Podcast, home to two different kinds of games: one where 8-10 players draft a team of two players, and another where hundreds of you select four players to be your team. But for this upcoming season, we’re trying something new. I suppose you could say that we’re…altering the contest.

The issue with the Champions/Outcasts version of the game is that two player teams are too small to make the team aspect as important. While our scoring system has- especially recently- had winning teams that don’t feature the winner of the season, for the most part the name of the game is drafting the winner. The issue with the pick-4 game is that it doesn’t give the exclusive ownership feeling that a draft-based game does (thus, when a certain player does well, they do well for dozens of teams).

So we thought we’d try a combo of both: a draft-based league, with four players per team. Thus, the PRP staff fantasy league. Five teams, four rounds, 20 players.

I suppose the next question is, “Why would I want to read about someone else’s fantasy team?” The answers there are simple: 1) reading about drafts is standard fantasy preseason content for fantasy sports sites, and 2) there’s nothing stopping the lot of you from setting up your own five-team draft leagues.

What to Do

Making your own league should be simple:

  1. Arrange yourselves into groups of five, with one person in charge of setting up the draft order and compiling your scores on a weekly basis.
  2. Find an online place to do a draft: email, Twitter DM, Slack, or the comments here (just please keep it to this post).
  3. Enter your teams here.
  4. John posts the individual players’ scores each week, so you won’t have to compile them. You’ll just have to add them up for each team in your league. (Editor’s note: Maybe. I’m working on making this even easier. See the comments section for details. -John)
  5. Trash talk each other throughout the season in comments.

The Draft

So that’s what we’re doing and how to do it. Here’s how our staff draft went (held live on Slack on Thursday night for optimal banter):

Andy: Alright, I’m about to generate the draft order. (Done via https://www.random.org/lists/)

John: Fuck.

We’re snaking this, right?

Matt: YUP

Emma: Hell yeah.

Matt: HAHAHAHAHA

John: Double fuck.

Emma: WE ALL KNOW WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN.

(We know because we planned for it via DM).

John: Yes. You’re gonna Roswulf me.

Matt: EVERYBODY MAKE IT HAPPEN.

Emma: Blessed be the randomizer.

Andy: I swear I played it honest.

Matt: I don’t even care if it is true it is too perfect.

John: I’d respect it even if it was rigged.

Anyway, I’m taking Malcolm #1. I just don’t see a scenario where he’s one of the first boots, and once he’s had time to make some social connections he should be good to go far. I think they’d be idiots to let him near FTC, but I can see him going deep.

First overall pick to John

Andy: That’s who I wanted.

Emma: Damn, me too.

Matt: He was #1 on my board too.

Emma: Bitches love Malcolm.

John: That’s what you get for sticking me with… someone.

Emma: Alright, I’m going with JT. I think people might underestimate him, especially with the gained weight, but he’s farm strong and still plenty charming. He’s also the closest thing to Malcolm, not Ozzy.

Second overall pick to Emma

Andy: I probably had him ranked too low, since it DOES seem like people are underestimating him.

Matt: Solid choice, number 3 on my personal board because I think he is being slept on by everyone in the cast who have no idea how damn charming he is.

John: Phrasing!

It also helps that he looked so bad on HvV.

Andy: Yeah, I think he was slept in the preseason of the last all-star season, ifyouknowwhatimean.

Emma: The fact that he and Cirie seem open to working with each other seems like a good sign to me.

Matt: He looked bad on HvV and he looks out of shape now. Both things will lead people to think he is over the hill and they will forget that he won because that motherfucker is a charming SOB.

Emma: FARM STRENGTH

John: FARMY STRONG

Emma: None of that Caleb gym-muscle shit

John: We should start preparing our condolences for Fishbach for when JT gets voted out.

Andy: I’m taking Ozzy at number three, to show just how different our staff draft will be from the drafts among our readers. All alphas, baby!

Ultimately, I just don’t see why a tribe would get rid of Ozzy early. He’s just too darn useful.

Third overall pick to Andy

Emma: To paraphrase Malcolm, you don’t get rid of Dolphin Boy early.

Matt: Here is the thing about Ozzy: I doubt he wins but he is so high upside because he could win a lot of team immunity and some individual immunity. I feel that you almost have to throw the last pre-merge challenge just to get rid of him. But there is no other perfect time to do so.

Andy: He feeds you by fishing, and by helping you win rewards. Early rewards are a big deal, since they often include fishing supplies and tarps.

Mark: Unless there’s RI.

Andy: The one worry? Dude also packed on the pounds.

Matt: Nothing would make me happier than seeing Ozzy suddenly suck in challenges. That would be the greatest schadenfreude imaginable

John: But Rob came in with padding for RI, and it helped him. It’ll be burned off within 2 weeks.

Matt: Yeah but if Ozzy isn’t immediately dominating in challenges, why would you keep him around at all?

Andy: I’m guessing they’re gonna do the same “swim out to this bag of rice” thing from Cambodia. It’d be hilarious if Ozzy biffs it.

John: If this is Superman in a Fat Suit 2.0, I am here for that shit.

Emma: That would be amazing.

Mark: There’s a Cambodia boat + reward thing.

Andy: Right. No confirmation if it’s exactly the same.

John: There’s something you can swim to. And if Ozzy tries and loses, that’s a bad omen.

Matt: I can see some of these people trying that and biffing it.

Emma: Joe couldn’t do it.

Andy: He almost reeled in Wiglesworth. Then Woo finished it.

Emma: I think Wigles was more important by pressuring Joe to jump in too early, but that’s a discussion for another time.

Matt: I’m taking Andrea. I know everyone here knows that I love Andrea, but I look at her game in Caramoan and I see someone who very quickly was in tight with a lot of people and worked her way into the inner circle. She can also win a few key immunities which could provide points. And no one is targeting her. No one. She is an athletic woman, who has a good social game with no hype about her, who has shown she can play. Remember when she kept Malcolm from getting his idol? I really think she can win this game.

I assume you all knew this was coming.

Fourth overall pick to Matt

Emma: Matt and Andrea sitting in a tree…

Matt: I wish!

Andy: I had her as a first rounder. Fourth overall.

John: I had Andrea #2 on my board. (I feel like Mel Kiper.) Andrea is what Sierra wishes she was.

Matt: John I had her as my #2 too (everybody taken so far is in my top 5)

Andy: And despite her being one of the better players in Caramoan, it seems like almost no one remembers her.

Matt: I think she was the second best player in Caramoan.

Andy: Depends on how you rate Dawn. Dawn had the best moves, but they also prevented her from winning.

John: How dare you disrespect Sherri!

Emma: Yeah, Michaela just referred to her as the shorter blind girl.

Mark: Blind girl?

Emma: DAMMIT. Blonde.

Matt: Classic Emma with the mistyping

Emma: I know the best words.

Mark: Andrea apparently has no vision.

Matt: Michaela saw her bumping into stuff all over Ponderosa.

John: She’s gonna Stevie Wonder it, though.

Matt: That man ain’t blind!

Andy: Alright, Mark gets back to back picks. I have a feeling he’s gonna approach this differently from the rest of us. Because he tends to.

Mark: I’m taking Sarah for a lot of the same reasons Matt picked Andrea. She won’t have a target on her back, was decent at pre-merge challenges, there’s no Kass around this time, and hopefully she’s learned from her social game. While all the winners take each other out, the mid- and low-tier players will thrive. Kinda like the GOP primaries.

Fifth overall pick to Mark

Emma: Can we put a moratorium on election metaphors? I was in such a good mood…

Mark: I didn’t say the T word!

John: I can’t read Sarah’s name without saying it in Tony’s voice.

Andy: I agree that she could skate by, I’m just not sure what that buys you.

Emma: VTEP for days.

Mark: Buys me suprise. She could win immunities against a Sierra and a Sandra and a Varner.

John: If that’s the post merge group, sure.

First round
# Pick Team
1 Malcolm John
2 JT Emma
3 Ozzy Andy
4 Andrea Matt
5 Sarah Mark

Mark: Speaking of. For my other pick, that’s where I can indulge. Varner is smart, and I think he’s learned to keep his mouth shut when producers aren’t around. As long as he proves decent in challenges…again, the winners will take each other out. Dude can make jury easily, and his social game can weave him into the majority for votes. Plus he’s hella entertaining. And if Tony goes early…

Sixth overall pick to Mark

Matt: This might seem shocking, but I actually agree on Varner.

Andy: I like this one. I had him sixth. I actually think he can win. It sounds like he’s in the best shape he’s been in years.

Matt: His best shape still might be bad enough that he is a giant liability, but if he is just good enough to not be a huge liability I think he has learned from his Second Chance and I think he can do really, really well.

Emma: Not that I disagree, but lol on “dude can make jury easily.” Poor Varner. I actually think he can (and really hope he does). It’s just funny since he hasn’t in his previous two times.

Mark: Third time’s the charm…

Mark: To be fair, his first time he got screwed by parlimentary measures. The second time was an overcorrection. Plus Abi.

Andy: Is giant less than huge, Matt?

Matt: Yes

Andy: I don’t go to Starbucks enough to understand weird size names.

Matt: It goes gargantuan > huge > humongous > giant > big.

Emma: So when you said you had a giant di… never mind.

Matt: Dammit I played myself.

John: My concern with Varner is that I’ve never seen his post merge game, I don’t know how he’d do with idols, and I’m not sure if others will trust him.

Matt: Quibbles

John: Oh, I’m not saying it’s a bad pick. I’m just saying those were the things that made me worry about picking him. There are things that make me worry about everyone in this cast.

Mark: More than they trust Sandra? Or Ciera? Or Tony?

Matt: Speaking of which…

I’m taking Tony. Yes he has a huge target on his back, but do you really think Tony doesn’t find an idol? Even in the worst case scenario he has three days to do so and the man does not sleep. One idol opens all the doors and Tony goes nuts. He won’t win again, but he can earn some idol points.

Seventh overall pick to Matt

John: Shit. I never should have shared my Tony theory with you.

Matt: You shouldn’t have.

Andy: I’m a little glad Matt took the Tony decision away from me. I’m not sure I want two high risk/high reward players in my first two picks. But I also couldn’t NOT draft him.

Matt: I literally have Ozzy and Tony back to back in a tier I labeled “high risk/high reward”. So yeah, I get it.

Emma: I did not put as much thought into this as you.

Andy: Emma will win.

Matt: Nah, Mark has this in the bag.

John: I was hoping Tony would come back around to me. I was willing to take the risk.

Emma: Oh my god, I was typing up my pick, totally forgot it was Andy’s turn. That could have blown up in my face.

Matt: Good save there

Andy: I’m struggling here.

Matt: Obviously you trade back

Emma: There’s trading?

Matt: No I was just making a drafting joke. But I mean I guess there could be.

John: There’s trading.

Mark: I’ve been waiting for the Survivor TCG.

Andy: Alright, I’ll take a minute to further explain my Ozzy pick now that giving the strategy away doesn’t matter: in a four round draft, unlike a two round draft, you don’t need to grab the winner in the first round. There’s multiple opportunities. So in the usual two round draft, everyone spends the first round going after those average players that could win and avoids the big targets that usually don’t. But I didn’t care about that, I went after challenge points.

My plan was to try to grab the winner in the second. But I’m not sure he/she is still out there.

Fuck it. I’m going for a sleeper in this round: Hali.

Eight overall pick to Andy

Emma: She was one of my two main options for my next pick, so that makes it a little easier on me.

Matt: Deep pull from Andy!

Mark: Phrasing.

Andy: It can be two things, Mark.

Emma: Oh, Andy would love a deep pull from Hali.

Andy: SHE’S SO PRETTY!

Mark: She was…fine.

John: I have so many thoughts about Hali! (I have no thoughts about Hali.)

Emma: Andy and Hali sitting in a tree…

Andy: SO PRETTY

Matt: I mean she is no Andrea.

Andy: She’s prettier.

Matt: She isn’t.

Mark: I’d have rather seen Jenn Brown.

John: Concur.

Emma: Y’all get all the good eye candy. Ozzy didn’t even have the decency to get a haircut for the female gaze.

Andy: Seriously, the only out-and-out eye candy for people into dudes is Caleb. Who isn’t really eye candy if that isn’t your type.

Emma: Ugh, no thank you.

Andy: Oh, wait… Malcolm. Duh.

Emma: Who also needs a shave and a haircut.

John: If you enjoy horrendous facial hair, Malcolm is your guy.

Emma: But he has enough charisma to smooth that over.

Matt: So not going to explain Hali? Just gonna let that one sit there?

Andy: I believe I already did.

Matt: Because she is pretty?

Mark: He should put as much thought into her as the show did.

Andy: She’s the average non-target that could emerge as a winner that I’m taking a stab on.

John: Yeah, it’s that she will exist. And she’s mediocre, and therefore could go far and potentially win.

Matt: Okay, fine

Andy: This is the pick where people take swings at Kelley Wentworth or Michele and hope they win while letting Joe or Tony fall to the second round. (Of course, some of that could be that our people have a type).

Mark: She doesn’t need to be carried, bro.

Emma: So this could definitely blow up in my face, but I’m going with Aubry. I’m really hoping her losing in FTC will soften the threat level, but considering the narrative is that she should have won, it’s a risk. Debbie is after her, but people are going to think Debbie is weird so that might be okay. I think the fact that she’s starting out with her end-game confidence could help.

Ninth overall pick to Emma

Andy: I see where you’re going with her. But I also worry that she’s one of the first three boots. My concern with Aubry (and why I had her ranked really low) is that she’s proven herself dangerous without ALSO proving herself useful.

John: Right. She got all the mistakes out of her system in round one. The problem is that everyone knows it. And they know that she’s The People’s Champ from that season.

Emma: It’s important to keep in mind how little thought I’ve put into this.

Matt: Plus I feel like people from that season will have a target on their backs. Though Aubry was actually pretty good in challenges, in the team portion anyway

Andy: The flip side is that Aubry has pretty good social skills and emotional intelligence. That could really help among these egos.

Matt: I see Aubry as pretty high variance, honestly.

John: That ability to feed the egos of some of these others could help her a lot. Okay, time for my last two actual picks before the inevitable.

Matt: Time for John to make his last two picks

PRP tradition

John: I’ll take Michaela first. There’s the worry that they’d target her because they don’t know about her, but I feel like you’re going to get the sense of why Michaela is there within the first 3 days. And once it’s clear that she’s there more for being a challenge beast and some entertainment than for being a strategist, she could easily latch on to a large alliance.

Tenth overall pick to John

Emma: Aw man, I was thinking about her for my next pick.

Andy: I actually had her ranked third on my board, but more as an either/or between her and Ozzy. Both of them felt like too much duplication.

Matt: If you had Michaela high, you should take her before John because John can’t resist her

Emma: With Colin Stone making her his winner pick, how can you not  select her?

Andy: You just answered your own question.

John: I’ll never doubt edgic.

Emma: Especially preseason edgic, the purest edgic of all. Where you can’t be influenced by that pesky game being played.

Mark: OTTN comment there.

Matt: I get a bad vibe off Michaela honestly. I think she was brought back too soon. Just feel it won’t go well for her. I have no real reason to believe this, but just my gut

Andy: I don’t think she’ll win, but I think she’ll win challenges. I don’t see her intimidating veterans.

John: The problem with coming back so soon is that she’s a physical player, and she’s just come off of several weeks of a starvation diet, then gorged, and is gonna starve again.

Matt: Though she went out pre-merge so she had more Ponderosa time to recover.

Second round
# Pick Team
6 Varner Mark
7 Tony Matt
8 Hali Andy
9 Aubry Emma
10 Michaela John

John: The next pick is much trickier, because there are two extremely risky queens sitting there on the board.

Andy: Varner is off the board.

Emma: Hisssss

Matt: Varner would approve of that joke

Andy: I made it in his honour.

John: I can’t believe I’m doing this, but I’ll take Brad. I’m way too worried that Sandra and Cirie are targeted immediately. No one is going after Brad early. He’s not going to get me tons of points, but he’ll definitely put some stats up before he goes home.

Eleventh overall pick to John

Emma: What the fuck, I was going to reluctantly take Brad too!

Andy: I was actually considering Brad this round.

Matt: No lie I had Brad 6th on my board. I think Brad will not threaten anyone

Mark: I had him in the top third.

Emma: People will want to take him to the end.

Matt: I could see him being dragged very far in the game as people hide behind his more outspoken arrogance. And yeah I bet he wins some team challenges and maybe an individual.

John: I actually didn’t hate his BvW game! I mean, I hated it as typical Survivor voting patterns, but I understood his reasoning at the time. And I think the game has changed since then and he wouldn’t need to try and form another all-male alliance.

Matt: And if he does go for an all-male alliance, I think this might be the season for it.

John: Plus, he’s a lawyer. And lawyers are always smart and awesome. Right, Matt?

Matt: No comment

Emma: They have giant brains.

Andy: Not huge tho.

Emma: Nope.

Emma: Okay, I know this is a bad idea. But I’m gonna do it. I’m picking Cirie.

Twelfth overall pick to Emma

Matt: I would have done it

Andy: Okay, I know this is a bad idea. But I’m gonna do it. I’m picking Sandra.

Thirteenth overall pick to Andy

Matt: Damn! Now I have no idea what I am going to do! I was hoping one of them fell to me

Emma: I almost picked Sandra myself. But so many people are picking her for the first boot on Dalton Ross’s thing.

Andy: I’m as afraid of that pick as all of you were, but… it would just make me too happy, you know? My team was Ozzy and Hali. I’d like to actually root for someone too.

John: Massively high risk on both of those. I just couldn’t do it.

Matt: At a certain point, I value the ability to have bossed the game. We can talk all we want about people who have past success being targeted, but the HvV final three was three finalists, two of whom were previous winners.

John: I at least had Malcolm and Michaela, so I had people I was going to root for already.

Andy: I think people would target Sandra first. But if she can survive that, she could be gold. It’s all about avoiding the first tribal council.

John: Matt is right. I was going to save this for the preseason podcast, but the thinking that winners or otherwise successful players get targeted immediately is overblown.

Andy: Same.

Matt: Well they do, but there is only one first boot. And there are multiple people on this season who have that high of a threat level. At a certain point if you are saying “I would be an idiot to let Sandra, Cirie, Tony, JT, Malcolm get past the first vote” you are just setting yourself up for failure.

Andy: Vytas fit that bill. Shirin, Peih Gee, Varner, Monica did not. The problem with going after a threat first is that you have to stick your neck out to do it. And thus become a threat.

Matt: Right. I can only see a few people doing that here. And maybe other people see someone else as a bigger threat.

Andy: And if you yourself are a threat, you don’t want to foster that attitude.

Matt: I’ll take Caleb. I actually have someone else rated higher left on the board, and another person left who I could see winning given the right breaks. But in this spot, with Tony and Andrea, I think I want a consistent performer. I cannot see Caleb being removed early on as his brand of strength/athleticism is perfect for the pre-merge game. I don’t think he has a shot in hell of winning, but I think he is a safe source of points.

Fourteenth overall pick to Matt

Andy: I also think he’s a loyal guy. You want to ally with Caleb.

Emma: As long as no ones tempts him with salt and pepper.

Andy: The biggest threat Caleb faces is if people target that Kaoh Rong four. But even then, I think you go after the others.

Matt: Right I just don’t see you targeting Caleb if you target that group.

Andy: He was in my “challenge point getting” group.

John: You target the people with track records: Tai and Aubry.

Andy: Or Debbie because she’s too hard to work with.

Matt: Or Debbie because you think she is Philip.

John: Right. Debbie because she’ll blow up your alliance.

Seriously, this is the official PRP staff chat gif

Emma: Aubry’s a bigger threat, but Tai links Caleb and Aubry together, so he might actually be the one to target.

Matt: Emma that is why I think Caleb and Aubry are on one tribe together and Debbie and Tai another.

Emma: I mean yeah.

Matt: Those are the two pairs of Kaoh Rong with the least bonds.

John: You know who would be a great choice right here, Mark? Troy.

Mark: I’m going with Tai. Yeah, you want to break up the Kaoh Rong Four, but target the almost-winner and crazy person first. Let’s not forget Tai clawed his way into power alliances, won a few immunities, and is Asian Amanda at FTC.

Fifteenth overall pick to Mark

Andy: Caleb and Tai were my two next highest ranked picks.

Matt: I actually had Tai above Caleb. But by one slot.

Andy: Tai for a silly reason: people on this season voted for him to go in the HOF.

John: Tai being a finalist that got no votes is going to make him appealing to keep around.

Mark: He’s got value in his Caleb connection and can make friends easily. Plus he’s a provider. I don’t see him going early.

Matt: If Tai out fishes Ozzy does that give people an excuse to boot Ozzy? That would be amazing. Like Boston Rob outfishing Rupert in All-Stars.

Emma: Did Tai fish? I honestly don’t remember.

Emma: What about his love for all living creatures?

John: Yeah, but fuck fish.

Emma: Okay, Troy.

Troy McClure, not -zan.

John: Damn. I thought that was you drafting Troy.

Matt: It is not her turn

Andy: (Whew… it’s a good thing this wasn’t Emma’s pick or that could have been binding)

Emma: Nice try, bud.

Matt: You know what you are getting

John: But you can imagine she’d be enthusiastic and want to jump the gun. It’s Troy we’re talking about! The best player on One World not named Kim!

Matt: Or Sabrina! Or Chelsea! Or…

Mark: Colton?

Andy: Jonas

Emma: Bill Posely

Andy: Leif

Emma: Tarzan

Matt: Alicia

Andy: Cristina Cha

Emma: Kat

Matt: Monica

Emma: Kourtney Moon

Third round
# Pick Team
11 Brad John
12 Cirie Emma
13 Sandra Andy
14 Caleb Matt
15 Tai Mark

Mark: OH. You know who I should pick?

Matt: Not Troy!

Mark: FFGC Sierra Dawn Thomas. She’s a game changer!

Sixteenth overall pick to Mark

Emma: She does know Ozzy from her days as a Price is Right model.

John: Value pick here. Well done. I hear she’s tall.

Matt: Can’t teach height!

John: And so blonde!

Mark: She knows how to barrel roll. And avoid trouble. And screentime.

Emma: Even though she says she’s going to adjust her game, I worry she isn’t. After all, she pre gamed with Troy.

Andy: I was thinking of handcuffing Hali with Sierra Dawn Thomas. (Which is a fantasy sports term, not a kinky sex thing)

John: Two things, Andy. Two things.

Mark: Her last game got her sixth, so.

Emma: Andy and Hali handcuffed to Sierra, sitting in a tree…

Andy: I’m not sure they could reach.

Matt: Are we not doing phrasing anymore?

Mark: It can be two puns.

Andy: On the bright side, I will actually like the person I’m drafting instead.

John: Troy?

Andy: I can’t say…

Matt: Anyway I am glad at that pick Mark because it left Zeke for me. Look Zeke might go early, but so might everyone else left and I think Zeke has the social game to actually win. And the double bonus is that it leaves Ciera for Andy who I know he will pick.

Seventeenth overall pick to Matt

Andy: Matt is correct. Welcome back to the team, Ciera!

Eighteenth overall pick to Andy

John: Aww, it’s like you’re getting the band back together.

Andy: Geez… Ozzy, Hali, Sandra, Ciera… Ozzy better damn well be a beast again.

Emma: Aw crap, that means I have Debbie, right?

John: Not necessarily, Emma!

Matt: Yes it does Emma.

John: Not necessarily!

Emma: Well, it is amusing that I have a team of rivals. JT and Cirie, Aubry and Debbie.

Matt: No other choice for you

John: NOT NECESSARILY!

Andy: There is someone else out there. You’d be booted from this here Slack, but he’s out there.

Matt: NO OTHER CHOICE

Emma: I PICK DEBBIE. SURVIVOR: RIVALS – EMMA’S ISLAND.

Nineteenth overall pick to Emma

This is a weird-ass harem for JT.

Matt: I wonder who that leaves for John? HMMMMMM, who could possibly be left?

John: Sierra?

Matt: No she was taken …

John: I hear she’s always around when you need a player at the last minute.

Matt: hey-o!

Andy: John’s gonna try and draft Natalie Anderson.

Matt: He gets Nadiya instead.

Andy: They really should’ve subbed Natalie with Nadiya.

Emma: When Natalie dropped out, they should have just…

John: Can I just draft Probst?

Matt: That would be amazing

Andy: I wonder how many VTEPs Probst would get?

John: All of them?

Matt: All of them.

Andy: If you believe conspiracy theories…

Matt: Or maybe none of them because everything is a blindside

Andy: He would’ve gotten reward challenge points when he and Wigles went to that bar in Borneo. I think he and Colby had a date in the Outback too.

Emma: I think John should make his last pick official.

John: Whatever. Fuck you all. Troy is mine. I will relish watching him get points for existing all the way until final 3 and getting completely fucking blanked at final tribal.

Twentieth overall pick to John.
We did it everyone!

Matt: When you win because of Troy I will enjoy rubbing it in your face that you owe it all to him

Andy:

Watch, Emma’s gonna get Ms. Woozah’d for taking Debbie.

Emma: I would not be surprised.

John: The fates demand it.

Fourth round
# Pick Team
16 Sierra Dawn Thomas Mark
17 Zeke Matt
18 Ciera Andy
19 Debbie Emma
20 Troy John

Emma: I’ve got a pretty bad team, but whatevs.

Andy: Everyone, post your team.

Mark: I’m happy with my moderates.

Matt: I think we all know that my team is the best.

John: Malcolm, Michaela, Brad, and The Other One.

Emma: JT, Aubry, Cirie, Debbie

Andy: Ozzy, Hali, Sandra, Ciera

Matt: Andrea, Tony, Caleb, Zeke

Mark: Sarah, Varner, Tai, Sierra DT

Matt: John’s team is Teen Girl Squad.

John: Malcolm is Cheerleader.

Andy: You know… I think I might like John’s team the best.

Emma: It’s weirdly the lowest risk team.

Andy: Not weird at all. John is VERY low risk.

John: It’s the most conservative. Very on brand for me.

Andy: Very.

Mark: Shocker. I can’t talk though. I did pick middle of the road types and the only Asian.

Andy: I swing for the fences. Big Moves!

Emma: I don’t make draft rankings in preparation!

Mark: I didn’t either!

John: Fucking rookies.

Whose team is the best

  • John (Malcolm, Michaela, Brad, Troy) (38% Votes)
  • Matt (Andrea, Tony, Caleb, Zeke) (24% Votes)
  • Emma (JT, Aubry, Cirie, Debbie) (21% Votes)
  • Andy (Ozzy, Hali, Sandra, Ciera) (8% Votes)
  • Mark (Sarah, Varner, Tai, Sierra Dawn Thomas) (8% Votes)

Total Voters: 95

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  • As mentioned in the post, I’m working on making an easy, semi-automated method for you all to do this using Google Sheets/Forms. I’ll post a link to it once I have a working prototype ready.

    If any of you happen to be experts with Sheets/Forms, let me know.

  • gouis

    I like this because the thirst for being in the Outcasts league was real. I’m up for a team with whomever else.

    • Black Dynamite

      I’m in

      • gouis

        THREE MORE

        • SpicyMayoJaySimpson

          I’d be down if y’all will have me

          • gouis

            Sure thing boss

          • I would be interested…if you want me.

          • gouis

            Yes! I wanted at least 1 women so thanks

          • Black Dynamite

            Yay!! We got five.

          • I set the spreadsheets up so you could do either 4-team or 5-team leagues, though. Up to you guys if you want to have an additional round of drafting or an additional team.

          • purplerockandy

            The one caution against four team leagues: it gives the person with the first pick a bigger advantage, since they don’t also wind up with the last pick.

          • purplerockandy

            I’m surprised they didn’t form a Preying Mantis League.

          • For real. Missed opportunity there.

          • Black Dynamite

            Couldn’t they still do that? It’s like 2 weeks before the season.

          • gouis

            Yeah but we got Babs

          • Don’t call me Babs.

          • Barbara gonna be that person with like 7 fantasy teams that can never enjoy games because of conflicting rooting interests.

          • gouis

            Wait she can’t league cheat on us. @disqus_GpYJ355BVM:disqus WE BETTER BE YOUR #1 LOVE

          • Black Dynamite

            That used to be me in Fantasy Football and can be me again in baseball if that PRP Fantasy Baseball League ever becomes an actual thing.

          • Assistant Dragon Slayer

            We’re at five plus one maybe, and I haven’t tried to drum up any interest since my initial post. Bonus: we’ve already been dissed and dismissed by Emma.

          • Purple Rock Emma

            I mean, who hasn’t?

          • Black Dynamite

            Do you just not have a desire for Fantasy Baseball or is it more of a no time for it thing? Fantasy Baseball is incredibly fun and I recommend it for all baseball fans.

          • Purple Rock Emma

            Just no desire for fantasy baseball, never have. I don’t like to have my rooting interests conflicted, I’d rather be able to just focus on my team.

          • Black Dynamite

            I understand that. I don’t think it bothers me so much in baseball because of how long the season is and I know going in that my team is going to lose around 70 games. So if it’s comes at the expense of people on my fantasy team than it is not a total loss.

          • Purple Rock Emma

            What if I drafted someone and then they got traded to the Dodgers?

          • Black Dynamite

            I get the dilemma. Having Red Sox players can be torture at times.

          • purplerockandy

            You drop them.

          • Assistant Dragon Slayer

            Yup. I had both Josh Reddick and Rich Hill on my team last year and had to drop them on principle.

          • PurpleTally

            I played Fantasy Hockey for one season and it was the WORST. I had two teams, and both teams had people I hated, and whenever the goalies were up against teams I loved, it was torture. Never again.

          • Black Dynamite

            I’m curious, what team(s) are you fans of?

          • PurpleTally

            Blackhawks and Flyers. (My whole family is from IL, so the Chicago team loyalty is in my blood. And then the Flyers because I like pissing off my friends who like the Penguins.) I liked the Kings when I lived in LA, but nah. I used to be a big Thrashers fan when they existed.

          • Black Dynamite

            I’m a Rangers fan. That Stanley Cup Finals against the Kings was devastating for me.

          • PurpleTally

            I saw game one of the Rangers/Devils series that year. The Kings were just on fire that whole playoffs.

          • Black Dynamite

            Damn, that’s cool. I still have never been to a NHL game. I really got to rectify that one day.

          • PurpleTally

            It was a lot easier when I lived in a town that had hockey. But then Winnipeg went and stole my hockey team. (The brief time I lived in LA I only saw 2 games, because it was right after they won the Cup, and tickets were hella expensive.) Now I have to drive to Nashville and stay overnight which is $$$$. There’s nothing quite like live hockey, though.

          • Purple Rock Emma

            Where in LA were you? Also yeah, Kings fans popped out of the woodwork after that first win.

          • PurpleTally

            Winter 2013-Summer 2014 I lived in the Valley. Now I’m back in Atlanta.

          • Purple Rock Emma

            Ugh, the valley. 😉

          • PurpleTally

            I lived in Burbank and worked at the Americana in Glendale. I hated pretty much my entire time out there.

          • Purple Rock Emma

            Yeah, that’s fair.

          • gouis

            That’s because ATL >>> LA.

          • Purple Rock Emma

            Maybe greater than the Valley, but it’s hardly fair to use the worst part of LA to judge against it.

          • PurpleTally

            LA also does not have my dog. That was a BIG negative for LA.

          • Diego Armando

            I have to declare for the Red Wings. I need to get to a game soon.

          • SpicyMayoJaySimpson

            This works for y’all Giants fans, but as a White Sox fan, fantasy gives me a reason to tune in.

          • Which is why you always pick at least one person who is on all of your teams.

          • Diego Armando

            Would you be interested in facing me in a One on one league? If not or if you are already in one, do you have any idea of someone who is open to it? I just learned of them.

          • I have not heard of this one on one concept. Please explain further.

          • Diego Armando

            I think we each pick a 10 person team snake style. I think Black Dynamite and Super duper fan are trying it out.

          • Cool! I’m in.

          • Diego Armando

            Cool, lets start tomorrow. I’ll randomize the names and contact you. (Likely on a different thread).

          • Wonderful!

          • Black Dynamite

            Now the stakes have been raised. Going up against the Fantasy Survivor queen is going to be a challenge.

          • purplerockandy

            Figure out wherever the Islanders are playing next year. Should be VERY affordable.

          • Black Dynamite

            I was looking at tickets for this year while they’re at the Barclays Center. There was a scheduling issue for me when they played the Rangers earlier and tickets at MSG are ridiculous.

      • gouis

        Also I feel privileged for being in the BD group.

        • Black Dynamite

          The honor is all mine. Also, while I still remember, I wanted to say thanks for the Car Seat Headrest recommendation. I really enjoyed the Teens of Denial album.

          • gouis

            Great! What a solid album.

    • I posted a link to the spreadsheet. It should be public and not require any kind of logging in. Let me know if it works for you. (Also, it should prevent you filthy plebes from overwriting my formulas.)

      • Mike Hirsch

        Isn’t that just the worst, when a formula gets stomped on?
        Not the worst in terms of the worst things ever to happen in the world, but in terms of spreadsheets.

        • I’ve gotten really, really good at fool-proofing stuff at work. And yet some fool manages to out-fool my fool-proofing a solid 50% of the time.

      • SpicyMayoJaySimpson

        Just a plebe chiming in, but you left the conditional highlighting on for last season’s eliminated players. Zeke and Michaela are showing up as eliminated. But I’m not going to mess around in your sheet.

        • Yeah, I noticed that. Oops. I can fix that tomorrow.

    • Also, the process for creating Outcasts is getting more and more agonizing, since there are so many people we want in that league. So hopefully this will help.

      • gouis

        That’s what I mean. I’ve been in it a bunch but also when I’m not in it I’m like “HOW DARE THEY!?!?!?”

        • I get it. Just know that we’re nearly as disappointed when certain people don’t make the cut. (Not you, but people we like.)

          • gouis

            Now they’ll just have to be jealous about not being in the #1 picked league! (AKA the league for people who had free time on Tuesday morning)

          • Black Dynamite

            I think we found our official League name.

          • gouis

            I called it Alpha Squad in the spreadsheet but feel free to bat around other ideas

          • Black Dynamite

            That’s cool too. I just also like the sound of Free on Tuesday Morning.

          • When you’re ready to draft, this is the randomizer we use to determine draft order: https://www.random.org/lists/

    • Mike Hirsch

      I’ll join.

      • gouis

        In

  • Black Dynamite

    It has been a bit since I did rankings, as I work on my Top 10 episodes slowly. These are the fantasy teams I like the most.

    1. Matt
    2. John
    3. Emma
    4. Mark
    5. Andy

    Also I’m doing a IRL Survivor fantasy league for the first time with a similar scoring system. I ended up with a team of Aubry, Hali, Tony, and Zeke. Pretty excited about that one.

    • SpicyMayoJaySimpson

      Agreed with Matt’s team being the most likable, but parsing that from likelihood to win, I would rank the teams

      Mark
      John
      Matt
      Emma
      Andy

      • Black Dynamite

        My ranking is likelihood to win. That is what I meant when I said like. I’ll edit it to make it clearer.

    • purplerockandy

      FWIW, I kinda hate my team. Not sure what happened there, since I should’ve been able to have the most balanced team drafting in the middle.

      Guess it’s the lack of fantasy practice.

      • You’re Michael Jordan coming back from baseball for the playoffs, and we Nick Anderson-ed you.

        • purplerockandy

          Body is in baseball condition.

      • gouis

        Your team is terrible

        • purplerockandy

          Until Sandra wins again, using Ozzy as her shield.

          • gouis

            As fun as that would be it would come at the cost of Tony and that I will not abide

    • purplerockandy

      I’ve added a poll to the post.

  • SpicyMayoJaySimpson

    The conspiracy theorist in me is thinking that this is a misinformation campaign to influence the results of upcoming drafts. The so-called staff are spreading lies to delegitimize the Outcasts League. This must end!

    Also, I’m not in the Outcasts League, so this would affect me in no way whatsoever.

  • Mike Hirsch

    What an amazing collection of Contest Alterers!

  • purplerockandy

    Guys, we’re not talking enough about how beautiful it is that John was stuck with Troy.

    I swear I didn’t rig the order (especially since I wanted to draft Malcolm). The universe wanted it to happen.

    • Mike Hirsch

      If John wins, who is the joke then on? You guys for sticking him with Troy, or John, for owing any portion of his win to Troy’s points?

      • purplerockandy

        Yes.

  • gouis

    Can we talk about how crazy Andy is for thinking Hali is prettier than Andrea?

    • Super duper fan

      Um, but he’s right (Andrea is a REALLY close second but still).

      • gouis

        Andrea’s smile can basically part the red sea.

        • Super duper fan

          I’m not disagreeing there.

    • Black Dynamite

      I’m with you. Hali is extremely pretty though.

    • purplerockandy
      • gouis

        It’s OK, we know you like girls with brown hair and small facial features (i.e. Ciera)

      • Black Dynamite

        Goddamn, that’s a solid counterpoint.

      • Super duper fan

        Case closed.

        • gouis

          zzzzz

          • Super duper fan

            I know, I also would also hibernate if I knew I lost.

      • gouis

        Jenn Brown is sexier.

        • purplerockandy

          I said pretty. We’ve had a whole debate offline about pretty vs hot. (Ultimate conclusion: there’s no “hot” woman on this season. They’re more cute and pretty).

          • gouis

            Andrea is all 3

          • Black Dynamite

            I don’t know about that. I’ve met Andrea and that women is hot.

          • purplerockandy

            Understand, our classifications between pretty and hot were largely arbitrary based on principles I’d rather not share in mixed company based on poor social conditioning.

            Largely comes down to “they both smile a lot”.

          • gouis

            (He’s talking about sexy times)

          • Purplerockmatt

            I am so envious right now

          • Black Dynamite

            I think I blew the interaction by being incredibly awkward. I stumbled over my words repeatedly when trying to tell her that I was a big fan of her game in Caramoan. Hopefully I’ll get a shot at redemption in a couple of weeks.

          • Won’t you meet her “cousin”?

          • Black Dynamite

            Shit, I feel silly because this comment just flew over my head.

          • Isn’t what they said about Shirin when she popped up at the Worlds Apart Live KIAs?

          • Black Dynamite

            Oh yeah, okay I get it now.

          • You had me worried for a second.

          • Black Dynamite

            It took a bit for it to click. I wasn’t referring to KIA in my previous comment but actually a premiere party she said we wanted to have on Twitter. Though I will also be at KIA this season, so I may have multiple opportunities to not make a fool of myself.

          • Oh, gotcha. Man, living on the East Coast must have its advantages.

          • Black Dynamite

            It definitely does. Though I didn’t actually take advantage of having chances to meet Survivor/Big Brother alumni until last fall.

          • Way to go, BD!

          • Black Dynamite

            My personal highlight was actually doing karaoke and singing “Thong Song” with Jozea from BB 18. I’m sure video of that exists somewhere.

          • You were that close to The Messiah? Oh my.

          • Black Dynamite

            It was life changing

          • Super duper fan

            We are not worthy,

          • I think you mean game changing

          • Black Dynamite

            I don’t.

          • I did.

          • Diego Armando

            I have randomized the names. It is in a new post on this page (hit newest to find it).

          • Cool!

      • Mike Hirsch

        Eh.

        • Super duper fan

          It’s like saying “eh” to happiness.

          • Mike Hirsch

            I suppose I can find some level of contentedness in something so nondescript, but, mostly I’m just left with the emotional equivalent of a shrug emoji.

        • purplerockandy
          • Black Dynamite

            You are killing it today.

          • Super duper fan

            Case FOR ONCE AND FOR ALL closed.

          • Purplerockmatt

            damn ok that is a good one. Still prefer Andrea, but damn that is a good one

          • Mike Hirsch

            EH.

          • Super duper fan

            NOW YOU’VE CROSSED THE LINE.

      • EmAndScoutInBK

        Andrea’s more “my type,” but Hali’s a public defender so… it does make me like her.

    • Assistant Dragon Slayer

      Andy’s wrong, but not crazy wrong. IMO Andrea’s a little overrated and Hali a little underrated, so it’s a close call.

  • indescribable hat

    I’m so excited for this season I had not noticed the lack of male eye candy till y’all brought it up. And now I still kinda don’t care because Cirie! Cirie is back! And so is Sandra! I might get really bitter and cranky if we lose them both early though.

    • Black Dynamite

      Well, there is Malcolm and JT is always a soild candidate for “island hot.”

      • indescribable hat

        Neither of them is particularly to my taste, but again, I’m not mad about it because I’m delighted to see them both back for other reasons. Although I’m a little nervous that Malcolm may have an Ozzy problem where he drifts a little further from charming every time he comes back, forming less magical alliances, perhaps one day revealing character flaws and getting into fights with people we love.

      • Oh yeah, JT is solid contender for “island hot”…I mean, if you are into the Tocantins cast (minus Coach) or anything.

    • Maritimer

      I noticed it because it seemed especially jarring after there was a lot of male eye candy last season – Jay, Ken, Adam, and Chris/Bret if that’s your type (Also, Jay is better looking than Ken, fight me)
      This season only has Malcolm and Caleb, both of whom are type-things, and Malcolm, as mentioned could (should) lose the facial hair, and island-hot potential in J.T.

      • I know some people found Taylor attractive, which is boggling to me. Adam definitely got island hot for me and well….Ken was always attractive to me.

        • Black Dynamite

          I didn’t get the Taylor thing either but I will say that he has some beautiful eyes.

          • That is probably his best quality.

          • Super duper fan

            Someday, I also wanna be looked at the way he looks at mason jars.

      • indescribable hat

        Oh yeah Jay was the best-looking last season. I’d also put Taylor on that list although he ruins it pretty quickly when he speaks.

        • Maritimer

          I can overlook dumb for attractive, but Taylor’s dumb:looks ratio doesn’t quite cut it for me

          • Roswulf

            I’m an observer more than a participant in assessing male beauty, but for me the problem is less his dumb:looks ration, and more his asshole:looks ratio.

            I love me some Cagayan Woo is what I’m saying.

  • Roswulf

    I’m just honored to be verbed.

  • gouis

    Alright Team #1 (taking suggestions for team names) let’s draft here. @disqus_GpYJ355BVM:disqus @disqus_eZAEfHymmj:disqus @disqus_3Sm0bOf1sj:disqus @SpicyMayoJaySimpson:disqus

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  • gouis

    Alright team #1 @disqus_3Sm0bOf1sj:disqus @disqus_GpYJ355BVM:disqus @disqus_eZAEfHymmj:disqus @SpicyMayoJaySimpson:disqus let’s draft here. Spicy Mayo is up first.

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    • Remove your IP from that screenshot.

      • gouis

        GOOD IDEA BOSS

      • gouis

        Also isn’t yours in that one up there.

        • Nope!

          • gouis

            Yes? Unless you’re using a proxy

          • No, because I didn’t create that.

          • purplerockandy

            It me. Shrugs.

  • indescribable hat

    Okay I want a tiny league too because maybe fantasy Survivor will go better for me if I’m not playing against 100+ people. Seriously I have not done well in the past. Any takers?

    • Super duper fan

      I can if you want.

      • indescribable hat

        Hooray!

      • indescribable hat

        Did you draft Hali? I don’t see it here so I can’t tell if you or someone else put that in the spreadsheet.

        • Super duper fan

          Yes, I did. Is it not visible in the comments?

          • Super duper fan

            If not maybe refresh the page and it will help.

          • indescribable hat

            Yup, I see it now.

          • indescribable hat

            Not to me at the moment, but there may be disqus shenanigans.

    • Maritimer

      I’ll play

      • indescribable hat

        Excellent!

      • Diego Armando

        Do you have a special name for your team? My thought should be “Best Team Ever” because you picked awesome people.

        Any idea for league names?

        • Maritimer

          How about “More Awesome than Valuable”?, since though they may be awesome, I’m not sure they’ll be good for fantasy points.

          I’m not great at league names…we could modify what we have for the obvious joke of “Fan Favourite Game Changers”

          • Diego Armando

            Both sound good

    • Diego Armando

      I’ll go. I always want competition.

      • indescribable hat

        Swell! Looking for one more…

    • PurpleTally

      I’m in.

      • indescribable hat

        Marvelous! That’s it, I’ll go randomize us. Anyone feeling inspired re league name?

        • PurpleTally

          I don’t have any ideas for a name, but I just want to take a moment to appreciate your Making Fiends icon.

          • indescribable hat

            Longtime icon (I used it on AIM back in the day), dear to my heart, sometimes makes me seem angry when I’m not.

          • PurpleTally

            I occasionally sing the “eat your vegetables” song to my niece.

          • indescribable hat

            I sing it so much to my friend who doesn’t like vegetables. I may be childish and annoying, but he’s the adult human who doesn’t eat vegetables.

          • PurpleTally

            The only vegetables I eat are corn and green beans. So I’m probably just as bad.

          • indescribable hat

            If you voluntarily eat green beans you’re doing much better.

          • Purple Rock Emma

            Even I like (some) vegetables, and I am terrible at eating.

          • Mike Hirsch

            Terrible at eating > Great at mason jars.

        • Super duper fan

          ”The Fan Favourite League”? If I think of better name I’ll say it.

          • indescribable hat

            Works for me.

    • indescribable hat
      • PurpleTally

        Let me know when y’all are ready to start, because I have my first pick ready to go.

        • Super duper fan

          I’m ready.

        • You don’t have to wait for them. Just pick, and the next person will go when ready.

        • indescribable hat

          Whenever you like I think! Although then all the pressure will be on me and I don’t know who to pick and I’m not very decisive.

        • PurpleTally

          Okay, with my first pick I select John Broward (fuck you Brad) Culpepper.

          • Black Dynamite

            That is an interesting pick. I’m actually pretty high on Brad but not that high.

          • PurpleTally

            He was pretty much the first person I decided on for my pick-4 team. I’m going for longevity rather than flash (which served me pretty well last season–15th overall, and I had Sunday on my team). I don’t think he’s a big threat. Plus, with a 3 tribe situation, everyone’s likely going to be getting points pre-merge.

          • Black Dynamite

            I agree with that and I can now see with your position in the draft that you are not picking again until #10. So if you really like Brad then you might as well grab him now.

          • PurpleTally

            I don’t see him slipping to 10th, so I thought I’d snag him now.

          • Diego Armando

            That was why I took Sunday and Hannah, netted me 8th place.

          • PurpleTally

            I had Hannah, too. (Ken and Zeke rounded me out.) I did pretty well for not having Adam.

          • Diego Armando

            I had ADAM and Zeke. Not having David or Ken was the problem.

          • indescribable hat

            After much hand-wringing, I will take JT with my first pick.

          • Maritimer

            I will take Malcolm, despite my intention to cover my bases and keep this different from my Pick-4

          • Super duper fan

            I’m gonna take Hali as my first pick. Fingers crossed for Parvati-type redemption arc. Plus I really like her.

          • Diego Armando

            I think she has that potential.

          • indescribable hat

            I figure I’ll be forced to break with my pick-4 team soon enough, no need to get fancy on the first pick.

          • Maritimer

            This was pretty much my line of thought as well

      • PurpleTally

        PS I am putting this in the spreadsheet. We’re team TBD until we pick a name.

      • Diego Armando

        For my first pick, I will take Aubry. She almost won her first season and I think she has the skills and allies to win here.

        For my second pick I will take Andrea. She also could be really good and could pick up some immunity wins.

        • Super duper fan

          Good picks. My secon pick is Michaela. Before I was more pessimistic, but since pregame press began releasing I’m more hopeful for her chances. If she will be more careful in picking her allies, I can even see her in FTC. Plus of course immunity wins.

          • Maritimer

            I’m just going to go for it and take Cirie with my next pick, so I can at root for her and not worry about fantasy

          • indescribable hat

            And I’ll take Ozzy, for more or less the opposite reasons.

          • PurpleTally

            Okay, so I’m taking SDT and SDT.
            The rest is up to fate.

          • indescribable hat

            Oh wow I forgot you got two choices and was going to take one of them next. I’m good at this.

          • indescribable hat

            I have recovered and will take Sarah.

          • Maritimer

            I will take Varner. I may actually like this team as much or more than my Pick 4 team

          • Super duper fan

            My third pick is Tai. His interviews were surprisingly good and give him more hope. If he won’t get taken out cause of “Kaoh Rong four” top 5 is almost certain.

          • Super duper fan

            Sorry, because I live in Europe I have to go to bed now and I won’t be able to give my last pick for the next 16 hours. Sorry, for delaying all of this.

          • PurpleTally

            No worries. I am in no rush to wind up with Troy on my team.

          • indescribable hat

            Good night!

          • Maritimer

            Tag me when you make your pick please, so I know when to come back and make mine

          • Diego Armando

            See you tomorrow!

          • Diego Armando

            I think I will take Caleb, for challenge points.

            My final pick is tough, but I honk I will go with my first choice from last season, Zeke. He could be a dark horse or get targeted early.

          • Black Dynamite

            We have three of the same players. I also have Andrea, Aubry and Zeke.

          • Diego Armando

            I was just about to text you that. Weird.

          • Super duper fan

            I’M BACK! And with probably most controversial pick I’m gonna pick Debbie. Even though Ciera is my Adam this season (AKA the person who I’m gonna root for more than is healthy), a) I already have her in Pick-4 and I wanna increase the likelihood of winning at least one of these leagues and, b) she is one of the main candidates for first boot and I can’t change picks in this league. I’m not picking Tony cause…Tony. And I’m not picking Troy cause fuck Troy. And even then I think a lot people really sleep on her. I think she will be again underestimated, make the merge, she is the least likely to be targeted from Kaoh Rong four cause she is rhe least linked with others and if she is, she is linked negatively and people will notice that, her mistakes are fixable (being to aggressive) and if she can make the FTC for example with Brad and Troy and the jury will be mostly female she can even win (I do think she is the least likely to win out of the all females, but she still has the Phillip FTC upside to make it to the end). And I like her probably more than most people

            And as you asked, I’m tagging @disqus_sjBnbSyo83:disqus.

          • Maritimer

            I am so torn. Basically my remaining two options are both hugely risky (Troy = not an option) but I’m going to take Tony on the premise that he may find an idol or like, win a challenge, which Ciera won’t. Plus, it goes with my already incredibly high risk/reward lineup I have in this league.

            @avclub-800d427f7b19cf6f05ec777b2beb9a25:disqus you are up

          • indescribable hat

            I found this decision surprisingly difficult, but I’m going to take Ciera because I’d rather root for her. That leaves @purpletally:disqus with Troy, which I’m given to understand she will not mind. Very strange.

          • PurpleTally

            I’m not mad about it. He’s on my pick 4 team. I was just hoping I wouldn’t have to root for him double.

          • Diego Armando

            Debbie is an odd one. I can see her lasting a while, but I can also see people targeting her for her weirdness. She is competent in challenges, which might help her. I think Brad and Troy are her only winning possibilities.

        • Black Dynamite

          Damn, getting those two back to back is really strong. I’m jealous of your team already.

        • Super duper fan

          Off topic: Love the games from which these avatar and username come from.

          • Diego Armando

            Thanks. Zero Escape is one of my favorite series. I actually talked with the person in charge of voice direction for these and the Persona series. I mostly just jushed.

          • Super duper fan

            The writing in Zero Escape is really fantastic. I was a bit disappointed with Zero Time Dilemma, but more as a last entry in the series cause it left some unanswered questions from Virtue’s Last Reward, but as a story game it is still better than most. And it’s really cool you met the person involved in the games.

            You really should play the new Ace Attorney game. In my opinion it is probably in the top 3 of AA games (only behind T&T and AAI2). While not perfect it has a really great atmosphere, great story, great new characters, great new cases (with exception of maybe case 4), and it fixed some problems I had with DD (like harder mysteries, not being led all the time by a hand, and better use of returning characters). While maybe you won’t love the game as much as me you really should give it a try.

            And side question: Did you ever play the series called Dangan Ronpa? It’s a visual novel as Ace Attorney and Zero Escape (plus my avatar is a character from that series). If not I would really recomend it (especially the 2nd one, it’s really fantastic), and if you want more about it just ask me and I’ll try explain it more for you.

          • Diego Armando

            I was kind of disappointed in the final game also, but still liked it.

            I have heard great things about Dangan Rompa, but I don’t have a Vita. I plan on picking it up when it comes out on the PS4.

            They are also remaking 999. I heard the elevator scene is magnificent.

          • Super duper fan

            If you don’t want to wait for PS4 port, the first two games are on steam. The localization of the third game will come in september, but the plans are for now only for vita and PS4.

          • Diego Armando

            I think I will wait, I have a big enough backlog as it is.

      • Diego Armando

        Our draft is as follows:

        1. PurpleTally: Brad
        2. indestructible hat: JT
        3. Maritimer: Malcolm
        4. Super duper fan: Hali
        5. Diego Armando: Aubry
        6. Diego Armando: Andrea
        7. Super duper fan: Michaela
        8. Maritimer: Cirie
        9. indestructible hat: Ozzy
        10. PurpleTally: Sandra
        11. PurpleTally: Sierra
        12. indestructible hat: Sarah
        13. Maritimer: Varner
        14. Super duper fan: Tai
        15. Diego Armando: Caleb
        16. Diego Armando: Zeke
        17. Super duper fan: Debbie
        18. Maritimer: Tony
        19. indestructible hat: Ciera
        20. PurpleTally: Troy

      • Diego Armando

        Our teams are as follows:

        Diego Armando: Andrea, Aubry, Caleb, Zeke

        indestructible hat: Ciera, JT, Ozzy, Sarah

        Maritimer: Cirie, Malcolm, Tony, Varner

        PurpleTally: Brad, Sandra, Sierra, Troy

        Super duper fan: Debbie, Hali, Michaela, Tai

        • indescribable hat

          I love your misread, but mine is a hat that defies description, not destruction.

          • Diego Armando

            Fixed. I was really off yesterday.

    • Diego Armando

      We need team and league names. I would like to call mine “The Young and the Reckless”. Any ideas for a league name?

      • indescribable hat

        We’re currently the Fan Favourite League at Super duper fan’s suggestion, but I don’t think anyone’s wedded to that if someone has another idea.

        • Diego Armando

          That’s fine. I got confused by all the comments.

      • indescribable hat

        We can’t change the team names in the spreadsheet right now, but maybe @purplerockjohn:disqus can help us with that.

        • I removed protections for your stuff. Let me know when you’re done and I’ll lock it back up.

          • indescribable hat

            It doesn’t seem to have worked.

          • My mistake. I’d applied two layers of protection. Both are removed now!

          • indescribable hat

            You are hardcore about spreadsheets, and I say that with great admiration.

        • Diego Armando

          It’s fine, forget I said anything

  • gouis

    THRID TIME’S THE CHARM

    Squad #1 let’s draft here. @disqus_GpYJ355BVM:disqus @disqus_3Sm0bOf1sj:disqus @SpicyMayoJaySimpson:disqus @disqus_eZAEfHymmj:disqus
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/66fae00c2aaa95326b3a87877363c88529ad8e1ef78d0d448f7aebef72e27e2b.jpg

    • THRID. Better try a “froth”, buddy.

      • gouis

        Why you gotta brutalize me buddy

    • gouis

      @SpicyMayoJaySimpson:disqus
      you’re killing me here

      • SpicyMayoJaySimpson

        Sorry, I was in class. I’m going with Michaela.

        • gouis

          You’re up @disqus_3Sm0bOf1sj:disqus

          • Black Dynamite

            I’m going with my winner pick, Andrea. Good triple threat player.

          • gouis

            I’ll be happy taking Malcolm Third, @disqus_eZAEfHymmj:disqus you’re up

          • Mike Hirsch

            Ozzy, strictly for challenge point potential.

          • gouis

            @disqus_GpYJ355BVM:disqus take us to the end of the round!

          • I’m here…I had to drive in and get settled at work. Do I pick twice right away or one and one later?

          • gouis

            You have the next two picks (check my main post for this for the order). You can take whatever time you want to make them

          • I figured as much, but this is my first snake draft where I am the bend. I have been near the middle, but never in the middle. Let me do one and get back with my second pick. You know what…I am going to mix it up a little bit here and befitting our champions league name of Alpha League give me an alpha male with JT.

          • gouis

            Love JT in this season

          • SpicyMayoJaySimpson

            I guess it was too much to hope that JT fell to 10

          • Sorry dude. I have to pick him.

          • SpicyMayoJaySimpson

            I don’t blame you, he’s a solid pick.

          • For the start to the second round, I am continuing my alpha male motif with Brad.

            @disqus_eZAEfHymmj:disqus, you are on the clock. Hopefully you won’t boo me like Goodell.

          • gouis

            BOOOOOOOOOOOOO

          • Mike Hirsch

            How’d you know I’m a Patriots fan?

            I’ll go with…hmm. In an effort to be able to root for the maximum amount of people, I’ll pick someone else I’ve not yet picked elsewhere: Sarah.

          • I didn’t.

          • Mike Hirsch

            I didn’t boo Goodell anyway.

          • Mike Hirsch

            Also, @gouis, you’re up!
            How do I tag people?

          • gouis

            I’m pondering on it. Will do later this evening.

          • gouis

            In honor of @purplerockandy:disqus I’ll take Hali

          • gouis

            Oh and it’s your go @disqus_3Sm0bOf1sj:disqus

          • Black Dynamite

            I’m going with Aubry. Though I’m worried about her getting targeted due to recently, I think she is savvy enough to get far.

          • gouis

            I wanted to take her but to scared off.

            Go for the next two @SpicyMayoJaySimpson:disqus

          • SpicyMayoJaySimpson

            Tai and Sierra

            I’m realizing that I’m just getting my Pick 4 team. I really was trying to get a different team. Also, @BlackDynamite you’re up.

          • gouis

            Helping out as it seems like your at-ing didn’t work. @disqus_3Sm0bOf1sj:disqus

          • SpicyMayoJaySimpson

            Yeah, I can’t figure out why it didn’t work. But also, BD when you read this, I know it has nothing to do with your namesake, but I would love your fantasy team name to be It’s A Fucking Stick of Dynamite. I’m still trying to figure out what mine should be.

          • Black Dynamite

            I love it.

          • gouis

            You have to start typing the @name and then Disqus will fill it out for you and you click on the name. Just typing it out doesn’t work.

          • Black Dynamite

            Disqus never fills it in for me. I guess it just tells me to fuck off.

          • SpicyMayoJaySimpson

            Yeah, I started typing and got nothing. So I figured I would just finish the name, but no dice.

          • Mike Hirsch

            Doesn’t seem to work on my phone. Stupid dud phone.

          • gouis

            Also I’m confused as to why we have team names. I already have a internet name!

          • SpicyMayoJaySimpson

            It’s part of the fantasy league spirit. The nice thing for me is that if that PRP fantasy baseball league ever gets off the ground, I have my team name set to go for that.

          • Black Dynamite

            I’ll take Zeke. I’m not too worried about him not getting mentioned as being on this season.

          • gouis

            I’m not either, I think he has good upside.

            I’ll take Varner. Your go @disqus_eZAEfHymmj:disqus

          • SpicyMayoJaySimpson

            Varner getting the last name treatment makes me wonder why we’re using Brad instead of Culpepper, or even instead of Fuck You Brad Culpepper. I’ve never really associated hm with the name “Brad,” maybe partly because that’s my name and I am the veritable antithesis of Brad Culpepper

          • Mike Hirsch

            Now it gets interesting. I take Cirie.

          • SpicyMayoJaySimpson

            @disqus_GpYJ355BVM:disqus you’re up for the next two picks

          • I am extremely tempted to take one of the remaining females…but I can’t and it hurts.
            However, I am going to take a bullet for SMJS and end Round 3 with Troy.

          • gouis

            WOWWWWW

          • I know…I know.

          • You know what? My heart would be a bit broken if I didn’t pick this particular individual even though they may be out early. So, welcome to my team, Tony Vlachos.
            @disqus_eZAEfHymmj:disqus, it comes back around to you for your final pick.

          • Black Dynamite

            I’m nervous that I will end up with one of two players that I didn’t want even more than Troy, who at least had goat potential.

          • SpicyMayoJaySimpson

            Can’t be as nervous as I am. My Dead Fishy is still on the board.

          • Sorry. There are some genuine first boots out there.

          • Black Dynamite

            I just need Mike or gouis to pick one of the people I don’t want and home free.

          • SpicyMayoJaySimpson

            I’m genuinely curious to know who your bottom two are. I have a feeling, but I only have one left.

          • Black Dynamite

            Caleb and Debbie

          • gouis

            I considered taking Caleb in the 2nd or 3rd round for challenge points.

          • SpicyMayoJaySimpson

            That’s the main reason I’m so drawn to Michaela. Plus, if the All-Bro alliances form, the stronger women (see: Michaela, FFGCSDT, Andrea, Sarah) are more likely to last longer.

          • SpicyMayoJaySimpson

            That’s what I thought. One of those has dark horse potential, I think, but of course I can’t say who.

          • gouis

            TEAM TV

          • Mike Hirsch

            Sure, the Queen remains, but I don’t feel worthy, and also seriously doubt that she would get me any individual points.
            I will throw a dart and pick…Caleb.

          • gouis

            I WAS JUST GOING TO TAKE HIM YOU SONOFA

          • Mike Hirsch

            I was seriously going to take Troy, so blame @Barbara
            @Barb
            Goddamn phone.

          • gouis

            DANG YOU @disqus_GpYJ355BVM:disqus!!!!

            I’m just too scared of Sandra being the first boot. I’ll take Ciera.

            Last pick @disqus_3Sm0bOf1sj:disqus

          • Black Dynamite

            Give me Sandra because she is not Debbie. Oh and she’s the goddamn queen.

          • SpicyMayoJaySimpson

            NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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            OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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            OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
            this is literally worse than being stuck with troyzan.

          • Black Dynamite

            I’ve really grown to dislike Debbie after her awful pre game interviews.

          • SpicyMayoJaySimpson

            I disliked her a whole lot before. It’s so much worse now. Between the delusions of grandeur and the “Single Aunt Who Had Too Much To Drink At Thanksgiving And Is Hitting On My Boyfriend” uncomfortable thirstiness, I have to skip all the interviews with her. The only Debbie press I’ll read is when Wigler puts up her article this week. I want to know what everyone else is saying about her.

          • Black Dynamite

            I should’ve avoided her interviews. Apparently if you aren’t made of muscle, Debbie doesn’t give a shit about you. I especially hated the makeup comment she said about Andrea and the cellulite comment about Sandra.

          • SpicyMayoJaySimpson

            Oh somehow I forgot about those. It’s just a smorgasbord of terrible. If there’s one thing I’ll hang my hat on, it’s that Debbie would be a goat who won’t stab anyone in the back (unlike everyone’s favorite goat, who I think will be coming to make to Big Movez™). Still won’t stop me from shopping her in trades though.

          • gouis

            This was a great ending.

          • SpicyMayoJaySimpson

            How dare you make light of my suffering.

          • SpicyMayoJaySimpson

            Okay, technically this may be rule-breaking, but I’m debating whether I should float a trade to @disqus_GpYJ355BVM:disqus: two-for-one, Tai and Debbie for JT.

          • Don’t do it because I will not accept it.

          • SpicyMayoJaySimpson

            And I would not blame you.

          • gouis

            I’ll allow it

          • SpicyMayoJaySimpson

            Unfortunately, Barbara turned down my offer. Fortunately for you though, I might be willing to trade Tai and Debbie for Hali and Varner.

          • Oh no, BD.

          • Don’t call me Barb.

          • Mike Hirsch

            I was just trying to get my phone to tag you. Wasn’t working.

          • Sorry. I just hate Barb or Babs because Barb is my grandma (no, literally I am named after my grandma who is still living and not at all confusing) and Babs doesn’t feel like me. I am okay with Barbara or BJ.

          • Mike Hirsch

            Sure thing, and sorry for the undue stress!

          • No worries. I just hate those names because I feel like they are for someone older than me.

          • Mike Hirsch

            Like me with Hirsh!

          • purplerockandy
          • Kemper Boyd

            you know your order is wrong on the spreadsheet?

          • gouis

            That doesn’t really matter IMO

    • SpicyMayoJaySimpson

      Wait a second, I just realized I’m getting saddled with troy. Dammit.

      • PurpleTally

        If my group saddles me with Troy, joke’s on them. He’s already on my pick-4 team. Though, apart from Brad, I am trying to pick a different team this time.

        • SpicyMayoJaySimpson

          I’d honestly rather have Troy. People will target Culpepper, I doubt that’ll be the case with troy unless he’s *SUPER* irritating.

          Then again, maybe this is all smoke and mirrors. Maybe I want troy. I’ve said too much.

        • Kemper Boyd

          that seems like cheating, being able to root for everyone. I like my season to be ruined by learning I hate my fantasy team but are stuck with them.

          • Maritimer

            This just widens your options of people to hate!

        • Maritimer

          You know we’re leaving him for you. I’m hoping this whole site commits to a “Troy as last pick always” plan

      • Black Dynamite

        You may not. Depending on who else is left I could take Troy second to last.

    • Black Dynamite

      The competitive part of me is happy that we finished our draft first among the leagues started in the comments. Good job, Alpha Squad AKA Free on Tuesday Morning.

      • gouis

        I agree with your league name suggestion. FoTM it is

        • Black Dynamite

          Credit to you since it was based off a comment of yours.

  • PurpleTally

    I’m pretty new here, so I don’t understand all of the dynamics at play, but y’all working together to ensure John gets stuck with Troy was a thing of beauty.

    • Kemper Boyd

      If you like that then you’ll fit in.

  • Diego Armando

    I am willing to join a group. For me in anywhere.

  • Kemper Boyd

    Bum. I took too long. Who wants to do a 5 team league with me?

    • Roswulf

      I’ll throw my hat in the ring.

      • Kemper Boyd

        let’s see if we get 3 more if not two person draft!!!!

        • Em hasn’t checked in yet. I’m guessing she’d be game.

          • Kemper Boyd

            Not seen Em or Ms Sweater fan either. We could do a 4 player league then

          • Assistant Dragon Slayer

            Is this a Praying Mantis league (I can never remember Roswulf’s gender)? If not, I’m in.

          • Kemper Boyd

            You’re in

          • Alycia Swift

            Is there still room?

        • Roswulf

          I’m imagining that we both pick entirely based on names.

          The only Purple Rock draft where “Troyzan” is an acceptable [last] pick.

          • Kemper Boyd

            I called your team Roswulf stole Kb’s Pick 4 Team Idea until you give me a better one.

    • Alycia Swift

      If there’s still room, I’ll do it.

      • Kemper Boyd

        In. 2 spaces left.

        • Super duper fan

          Not one?

          • Kemper Boyd

            as is well known, I cannot count and left myself off. but that space is taken.

          • Are you our Brad?

          • Kemper Boyd

            I have dyscalculia which means I count poorly and I transpose numbers and overall just forget where I am with numbers.

          • Oh…now I feel awful. I am so sorry.

          • Kemper Boyd

            It’s mild but I do struggle when I count. My brother likes to torment me by shouting random numbers because he’s dyslexic and finds it hilarious.

    • HBO CEO of Tits

      I’d like to throw my hat into the ring

      • Kemper Boyd

        Sorry dude, we have begun, start your own thread, I’m sure you’ll find people.

  • Alycia Swift

    Well if anyone needs someone to round out a league, I am available.

    • Kemper Boyd

      HEY! No, you are in my league.

      • Alycia Swift

        I did not know that. I heard later.

        • Roswulf

          Kemper Boyd is a harsh and cruel commissioner.

          • Kemper Boyd

            This is a true fact.

          • Alycia Swift

            Harsh and cruel commissioner might be a good team name for you.

  • Kemper Boyd

    @disqus_b0GMy37Pwf:disqus @AssistantDragonSlayer:disqus @Roswulf:disqus @disqus_R9cNRvxsfG:disqus and EmAndScoutinBK this is the list. I swear on Sandra Diaz-Twine this was the first press of the button.
    Our league name is Holding Name (please suggest something better).

    With the NUmber 1 Pick Team Kemperboyd is bad at fantasy selects:

    Malcolm Freeberg, DE, Dartmouth

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d94b4f8e5b857605fb42b408e01087fc63355824d756c417654d72a3c16f275a.png

    • Roswulf

      GAH! This is my nightmare. Malcolm is the top of my board by a long shot.

      I’ll take Ozzy. Because you don’t put Ozzy on a season unless you plan on making him swim a lot, and Ozzy swimming is one of the surest things in Survivor.

      But seriously, gah.

      • Kemper Boyd

        Dude, tag the next picker @disqus_b0GMy37Pwf:disqus that way it can flow as a thread…
        Also you got a team name?

        • Roswulf

          I’ll hold off on picking a team name until I see what the team is. I don’t want to commit to “Assholes Who can Swim”, and then end up with Cirie.

          • Kemper Boyd

            Team names are as follows until everyone picks their final name after we complete:
            @disqus_R9cNRvxsfG:disqus Kemperboyd sucks at Fantasy
            @Roswulf:disqus Roswulf stole KBs Pick 4 idea
            @disqus_b0GMy37Pwf:disqus So mean to Christina Cha
            @AssistantDragonSlayer:disqus Assistant Douchecanoe
            @disqus_FeYRrg1QKY:disqus She got a dog I guess

          • Alycia Swift

            I will choose a name after I see my team.

          • Kemper Boyd

            Thats why everyone got placeholder names. I think I might just keep mine.

        • Alycia Swift

          No. Not good at that. I’ll have to think about it.
          If I’m next at the pick, I’ll take Aubry.

          • Kemper Boyd

            Ok @AssistantDragonSlayer:disqus it’s your turn brother.

          • Assistant Dragon Slayer

            James Thomas

            @disqus_FeYRrg1QKY:disqus

          • Kemper Boyd

            I realised I need them to reply to me so
            @disqus_FeYRrg1QKY:disqus please post your back to back picks here.

          • EmAndScoutInBK

            a) I love my team name.

            B) pick 5 = Andrea.

            c) pick 6 = Brad.

          • Kemper Boyd

            @AssistantDragonSlayer:disqus You are back on the clock.

          • Assistant Dragon Slayer

            Ugh. I was really hoping to get Andrea. @disqus_FeYRrg1QKY:disqus, would you have picked JT if I had picked Andrea? Also, I’m really surprised to see Brad being drafted as high as he is. Can I ask you why you picked him?

            This could make or break my team: Pick 7, Michaela

          • Roswulf

            Good pick- I think she’s got a profile (strong, forceful, committed to a plan) that is threatening to newbies, but a really desirable ally for veterans. And she’s close to a lock to be fun to root for. I was very hopeful she would fall to nine.

          • Kemper Boyd

            perfect to make it to the jury but be clipped about 8th. But some decent points.

          • Kemper Boyd

            @disqus_b0GMy37Pwf:disqus you are on the clock

          • Alycia Swift

            Shoot. I’m still at work so I forgot to check.

            Sarah Lacina if she’s not taken.

          • Kemper Boyd

            Good pick.
            @Roswulf:disqus come do this thing. So i can make my 2nd and 3rd picks and go to sleep, it’s 00.25 here.

          • Roswulf

            Apologies, I was on the road. I was going to go Hali, but then I realized I am rapidly approaching having the same team as Andy…

            So let’s go bold. Tony Vlachos. May his spy shacks see all, and his llama noises sway every tribal.

            @disqus_R9cNRvxsfG:disqus

          • Kemper Boyd

            Ok dude, can you take over so I can go to sleep? I dropped my phone in the bath and it’s now not charging so I have to leave early so I can drop in at a repair shop on the way to work and be in for a 9.30am meeting with the boss.

            I am taking:

            Hali (a nice pretty non threatening number)
            Sandra (fuck it, maybe she wins again)

          • Roswulf

            Sure- I’ll handle any @ing and recording tonight.

          • Kemper Boyd

            as I’m last pick it makes sense. I did however fix my phone by spitting in the charing point and licking the battery.

          • Kemper Boyd

            also you are now on the clock.

          • Roswulf

            And I’ll take Zeke at 12. I know that’s a consensus overdraft, but he’s a smart guy with social versatility who isn’t a blazing-ly obvious target.

            @disqus_b0GMy37Pwf:disqus, you are up.

          • Black Dynamite

            I picked him in the same spot in the Alpha league. I think he’s a solid pick here.

          • Roswulf

            You are on the Round 3 clock, BTW

          • Alycia Swift

            I show so far as taken Malcolm, Ozzy, Aubry, Sarah, JT, Andrea, Brad, Michaela and Sarah Lacina. I don’t see any others on this thread. Am I missing names?

            If she is not taken, Cirie.

          • Roswulf

            Cirie is available, and yours- the full record is on John’s spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HU8TZBeF6ntzfvDRkUCJj_Cb6DgiDjNlpFPf-MoT8d4/edit#gid=1204109043

          • Alycia Swift

            Sorry today I am a bit under the gun on an emergency order to show cause. i’ve not been so responsive.

          • Roswulf

            No worries at all! Let’s bear in mind that the season doesn’t start for two weeks, so if someone has to take a break for a day or two, we’ll still finish the draft with plenty of time to spare.

          • Alycia Swift

            Thanks.

          • Roswulf

            You are up for Round 3. @AssistantDragonSlayer:disqus

          • Assistant Dragon Slayer

            Caleb

          • Roswulf

            @disqus_FeYRrg1QKY:disqus you are up for your second two picks. May I recommend Debbie and Troy?

          • EmAndScoutInBK

            First things first – How could you?

            Secondly – Before I go, do I really get back-to-back picks again?

          • Roswulf

            Yup, back to back. Your options are DEBBIE, TROY….

            Oh, and Ciera, Sierra, Tai and Varner.

          • EmAndScoutInBK

            Well then, who could pass up an opportunity to go with a FFGCSDT/Ciera combo?

            Sierra and Ciera FTW.

            Also who do I tag? I’m bad at this.

          • Alycia Swift

            I’m heading home so won’t be able to reply if I get back on the clock for a while.

            Something about not texting and driving.

          • Roswulf

            Way to not be committed to the cause Alycia.

            You know, Debbie would have the commitment to text and drive. And risk poisoning Hurricane Katrina victims.

          • Roswulf

            At your leisure, it’s your last pick @disqus_b0GMy37Pwf:disqus. Debbie, Troy, and Varner are the options.

          • Alycia Swift

            Finally home. Varner.

          • Roswulf

            Yeah, that’s sensible.

            Which means I take non-poisoner Troy, and @disqus_R9cNRvxsfG:disqus is left with Debbie.

          • Kemper Boyd

            Yeeesssss no Troy

          • Roswulf

            Be careful, or Kemper Boyd will come after you for stealing his bit. And I’ll handle the tagging no worries,

          • Kemper Boyd

            HER BIT. Way to miss gender me dude.

          • Roswulf

            My apologies- I’m obviously aware of your gender, but got distracted by multitasking and patriarchied it up. My team has clearly infected my brain.

          • Kemper Boyd

            It’s ok, the name plus black blob avatar usually gets people to man.

          • Roswulf

            You are up for Round 4, @AssistantDragonSlayer:disqus

            Apropos of nothing, you know who is really awesome? DEBBIE!

          • Assistant Dragon Slayer

            NOPE!

            Tai

    • indescribable hat

      Go Big Green!

    • EmAndScoutInBK

      Here! I’m here!

      • Kemper Boyd

        Woooop.

    • indescribable hat

      You folks are in the 4-team leagues page in the spreadsheet instead of the 5-team leagues page (there are little tabs at the bottom).

      • Kemper Boyd

        bollocks, cheers mate, I’ll get changing

      • Kemper Boyd

        also you team is banging so far. Really good looking team.

    • Kemper Boyd

      Dearest @EmAndScoutInBK:disqus @Assistant Dragon Slayer:disqus Roswulf @Alycia Swift:disqus our draft is now complete and the teams are as follows:

      Kemperboyd is bad at fantasy (and also a woman Roswulf!) : Malcolm Sandra Hali Debbie
      Roswulf Stole KB’s pick 4 Idea : Ozzy Tony Zeke Troy
      As we know lawyers suck at Survivor, do they suck at fantasy? : Aubry Sarah Cirie Varner
      Assistant Douchecanoe: JT Michaela Caleb Tai
      She got a dog I guess : Andrea Brad Sierra Ciera

      Please also name the league, we are currently called Better League Than Gouis’.

    • Kemper Boyd

      Dearest @disqus_FeYRrg1QKY:disqus @disqus_b0GMy37Pwf:disqus @Roswulf:disqus @AssistantDragonSlayer:disqus our draft is now complete and the teams are as follows:

      Kemperboyd is bad at fantasy (and also a woman Roswulf!) : Malcolm Sandra Hali Debbie
      Roswulf Stole KB’s pick 4 Idea : Ozzy Tony Zeke Troy
      As we know lawyers suck at Survivor, do they suck at fantasy? : Aubry Sarah Cirie Varner
      Assistant Douchecanoe: JT Michaela Caleb Tai
      She got a dog I guess : Andrea Brad Sierra Ciera

      Please pick a team name, I may ignore you but you can always ignore me ignoring you and change it on the google spreadsheet.

      Please also name the league, we are currently called Better League Than Gouis’.

      • Black Dynamite

        I will have you know that Free on Tuesday Morning is a phenomenal league, though I do like the league name you currently have. As for this league I would rank the most likely to win as this…

        1. Assistant Dragon Slayer
        2. Roswulf
        3. EmAndScoutInBK (though I’m cheering for her to win because Brooklyn)
        4. Kemper Boyd
        5. Alycia Swift

        No team actually stands out to me and even the team I ranked last has pretty much as good of a chance at winning. I’m looking forward to seeing what should be a competitive league.

        • Kemper Boyd

          I think my team sucks. I like your team, how did you get so lucky?
          I am resentful you haven’t used our team names though, I took time to think of those.

          • Black Dynamite

            I have no clue how I got so lucky. I got everyone I wanted in the spots I took them but I’m worried about Barbara’s squad.

            You came up with team names for us? I didn’t see them but that’s awesome.

          • Kemper Boyd

            For my lot. I can make up rude ones for your league if you want?

          • Black Dynamite

            Oh I get what you meant now. I should’ve used the team names in my rankings, I’m sorry. And I definitely want rude team names for the FoTM league.

          • Kemper Boyd

            Gouis: Lou..no…boo…no…Whois?
            Black Dynamite: Vanilla Rankings
            Barbara Anderson: Fantasy Big Head strikes again

            who else is in your league?

          • Black Dynamite

            Big fan of Vanilla Rankings. Mike Hirsch and SpicyMayoJaySimpson are also in the league.

          • Kemper Boyd

            Another White Dude
            MildMayoWhiteBreadSandwich

  • BadPlayer91

    That cat gif is amazing. I burst out laughing at work, while trying to look very productive. Bravo

    • purplerockandy

      It’s our staff code for when somebody double posts the same idea after someone else. It symbolizes the frantic competition we have to get our jokes off first while the chat window says someone is typing.

      There was one time when three of us simultaneously posted typing cat. It was one of the best days of all of our lives. Including those of us who have gotten married and had kids.

      • BadPlayer91

        Having been in a (i.e. ANY) chatroom, I understand this exact feeling

      • Black Dynamite

        That sounds simultaneously like the most fun and the most anxiety inducing.

        • purplerockandy

          It’s so fucking tense. Typing cat really captures that when he starts to really pound on the keys at the end of the gif.

          • Yeah, it’s the zoom in at the end that seals it. It conveys the pressure.

      • BadPlayer91

        What i really need is a gif of a texting cat like that. The frantic energy of trying to articulate my emotions to my boyfriend while watching Survivor has left my thumbs bloody.

        • LOVE the avatar!

          • BadPlayer91

            Thanks! Gotta represent Bae!

          • Like I don’t listen to much music, but man Lemonade not winning Album of the Year is still a bummer a week later and I love Adele.

          • Alycia Swift

            My former assistant’s two little five year old twin boys love Adele. It is so cute.

          • Black Dynamite

            I’m still not over it. I expect this from the Grammys though, so I wasn’t surprised. I do really like Adele as well so I am happy for her while also being upset that Beyonce didn’t win.

          • Purple Rock Emma

            Yeah, for song of the year me and the girls I was with were like, “well if she was going to lose, at least it’s Adele,” but then it just got worse and worse.

          • Black Dynamite

            Yeah, I thought it was going to be the move where they give one artist Song/Record of the year while giving the other Album of the year so both parties could be happy. It was not that at all. Now I can’t stop thinking about Frank Ocean’s comments about the Grammys having a “cultural bias.”

          • Purple Rock Emma

            What are your thoughts of Adele’s “acceptance” speech? There was some debate at my viewing party.

          • Black Dynamite

            I get what she was going for and I’m sure she meant well but using “black friends” in any instance will be cringe worthy and troublesome to me. Perhaps that comes from my experience with that term. It made me feel like a prop instead of a person and it’s a shitty feeling. I wish people would stop doing it.

          • Assistant Dragon Slayer

            Did you read Rembert Browne’s take? It really is the “twice as good to get half” thing.

            http://www.vulture.com/2017/02/what-more-does-beyonc-have-to-do-to-win-album-of-the-year.html

          • Black Dynamite

            Thanks for sharing. I really enjoyed reading that and my own thoughts pretty closely align to that.

          • BadPlayer91

            Yeah, thanks for the share. A good read, but also just so frustrating.

          • Purple Rock Emma

            Yeah, it’s tough because I think she was trying to empathize that she knows Lemonade isn’t really for her in the same way, but the emphasis in her voice did not come off very well.

          • Purple Rock Emma

            Although at least it was better than Macklemore with Kendrick, because that was yikes.

          • Black Dynamite

            Holy shit, that was so fucking awful and my go to example when people claim there isn’t a problem.

          • Kemper Boyd

            I think if you aren’t accepting it, don’t accept it. Leave it up there after your damn speech.

          • I honestly thought they would give song to Hello and record to Formation because that seemed to be the best award for both of those songs. That way, if a dark horse snuck in to get Album of the Year, then the Grammys be like “Your faves won the other categories”

          • I have mad respect for Adele recognizing that the decision they made was not correct. I did not see a certain young lady doing that last year.

          • BadPlayer91

            Agreed. I love both artists, but politics aside, it just felt like the wrong move. In my very humble opinion, Adele’s 25 bore too many similarities with her past work. What really separates this from 21 or 19? I know some people are okay with this, but I prefer evolution, and Lemonade is the epitome of evolution. A mix of styles and genres, a visual album, and a personal and political statement. Lemonade was my everything this year, and for me, proof that Beyonce shouldn’t go down in history as a pop phenomenon, but as one of the most important artists of a generation.

          • Kemper Boyd

            I think 19 is her best album, way less heavy and schlocky. 21 and 25 are basically the same. She’s still all about this guy she broke up with at 20!

          • BadPlayer91

            I really don’t think any of them are bad albums, but they are certainly a progression on the same themes. And Adele said that. She said her next album won’t be a number because she sees 19, 21, and 25 as a trilogy of sorts. So in that way, job well done.

          • I also think that when people think about 2016 in music, they will think of Lemonade long before they think of 25. Lemonade just seem to predict how the year was going to end back in April.

          • BadPlayer91

            Honestly, award shows are filled with demonstrations of this exact thing all the time. Their are a bunch of Oscar best picture winning film’s that are just terrible in hindsight, but seemed like the easy winner at the time (see Tom Jones). In the case of Adele, though, necessary hindsight was only about a few hours, lol

          • That is putting it very lightly.

  • Roswulf

    By the way, upon discovering that I have three separate Survivor fantasy teams under different rule sets, the Lady Roswulf comes to her senses and kicks me out, I have decided to blame John.

    • That is fair.

    • Alycia Swift

      You could just have her replace you.

      • Roswulf

        Just to be clear, she would be kicking me out of our apartment, not my fantasy teams.

        Those terrible, terrible fantasy teams are mine!

  • Ms. Sweaterfan

    So I just tried listening to the Troyzan hype podcast over at RHAP. I got about 5 minutes in and it’s UNBEARABLE. I can’t figure out if the guest podcaster is trolling super hard, or if he’s a genuine Troyzan fanboy. Either way, do not recommend.

    • Alycia Swift

      I’ve been dreading listening to some of them. I’ve been putting it off.

      • gouis

        I’m just skipping them. RobC puts out A LOT of content. Too much for me. I like his KIA shows and sometimes the recaps depending on the guest. The Wiggle Room is next if I need more content. There is just only so many ways to dissect one one hour episode of a reality show.

        • Kemper Boyd

          I am now able to listen to podcasts at work and my commute is an hour longer each way. That has allowed me to I’d have skipped them otherwise too.

          • gouis

            Yeah I just have other non-Survivor podcasts I listen to. Hard to listen to 6 hours of content a week on 1 hour of watching.

          • Kemper Boyd

            I zone out. If I want to listen to all of it I’ll do it on the commute. All my other podcasts are in deadzones. What do you listen to?

          • gouis

            Next Picture Show for movies (old AVC represent), fantasy football stuff, some Ringer podcasts, Lady to Lady (my friend runs it)

          • Kemper Boyd

            I managed to listen to In the Dark in like a day and a half. I need more true crime in my life. More than just My Favourite Murder.

          • Assistant Dragon Slayer

            I think Criminal doesn’t get nearly as much attention as it deserves. Plus the host has just the most beautiful voice.

          • Kemper Boyd

            I started Criminal but at the same time as Accused and Accused just dragged me right in.

          • Kemper Boyd

            I restarted Criminal thanks, not all are great but some are fascinating, just listened to the one about the 2nd generation coroner.

          • gouis

            Have you listened to Mystery Show? It’s so wonderfully irreverent.

          • Kemper Boyd

            yeah, so sad Gimlet dropped her. I listen to Reply All and Crimetown but Mystery Show was so good.

          • Alycia Swift

            I like “You Must Remember This” – stories of Old Hollywood.

            Also, if you like legal stuff, three lawyers put out a legal podcast for the Adnan Syed case (the case that was the first season of Serial – the good season) put out a podcast. Its very interesting.

          • Purple Rock Emma

            Matt introduced me to You Must Remember This recently and I’ve been bingeing it.

          • Alycia Swift

            I have not gone back and listened to the first two seasons. But I listened to the last couple. I will go back at some point.

            I also listen to a lot of Game of Thrones podcasts.

          • YMRT is the best. I long to have the host’s voice.

          • Alycia Swift

            I realized I forgot the name – Undisclosed.

          • prettyboyprobst

            Here is one from my bookmarks. I only listened to a handful of episodes that got recommended by someone a good while ago, but I think it was pretty captivating:

            http://swordandscale.com/category/podcast/

            I believe I saw comments saying that there are considerable differenes in quality between the episodes. The host could also take some time to get used to and, depending on the subject, it can get a bit tinfoil-hatty. But that wasn’t my problem, I just noticed that I don’t need that much true crime in my podcasts (still have to finish season two of Serial) and I have loads of others to listen to.

          • Assistant Dragon Slayer

            1.75x speed is the key. You get used to it pretty quickly, although it makes @purplerockandy:disqus almost unintelligible.

          • prettyboyprobst

            Tell me about it. I think my device only does 1.5x, but for purplerock and D&C I usually switch back to normal speed at some point.

        • Alycia Swift

          Well I have a nearly 2 hour ride most days each way (4 hours some days but if I stay late and leave late, it goes down to 3.5 at the least) and I drive elsewhere at times so I have a lot of time in the car.

          • gouis

            I’m sorry

          • Alycia Swift

            Lets me listen to a lot of podcasts. I can’t quite do audiobooks.

          • Kemper Boyd

            dude, you are on the clock. If we can get my pick done in the next 30 minutes I can go to bed and the draft can be finished in the morning.

          • Alycia Swift

            I can’t come up with anything better so my team name for now is Lawtalking girl’s team. I don’t want to be mean to Christina Cha.

          • Kemper Boyd

            Can I brainstorm some names based on your team? I’ve got a day ahead of me at work that I’m really not excited about so I can give it a go.

      • Kemper Boyd

        A fair few of them have been intensely uncritical of their players. Ozzy was pretty bad, Troyzan was like headcannon fanfiction.

    • Kemper Boyd

      I listened to it and was reminded of the danger of believing everything someone says. Be it Survivors in post game interviews or politicians. Zero ciritcal thinking.

      • This is exactly my point when people make the tired “but Troy was the only one that stood up to Kim and tried to stop her!” argument. Yes, he did. And they disliked him so much that even though he had the right plan, they refused to go along.

        Sure, Kim played with stupid players. So did Troy. One of them just did it well.

    • TheForRealDeal

      Yeah, he lost me when I realized his main argument was “We’re kindred spirits!”.

      • Alycia Swift

        That gives me the creeps for some reason.

        • Kemper Boyd

          It made me a little sad for him…

          • Ms. Sweaterfan

            Yeah, pity was the general emotion I was feeling while listening to the little bit of the podcast that I could handle.

          • Kemper Boyd

            He made some ok points about Troy’s upside. He did get on well with the women when he worked with them, all of the negatives were glossed over.

      • Roswulf

        I literally yelped on reading this.

        Of course to be fair I’ve never actually seen One World, so I only know Troy as the PRP-described ogre.

        • Kemper Boyd

          It isn’t a great season by any stretch of the imagination but you should watch it to marvel at the greatest game ever played.

    • Hornacek

      If you think that episode is bad, wait until you (try to) listen to the Ozzy episode. According to that guest on that one, Ozzy voting himself off in RI was a perfect move which 100% worked. Even taking results-based-thinking into account, that move was so very stupid.

      • Kemper Boyd

        The Ozzy one is awful, I really disliked the Malcolm one too. It’s like every dudebro can’t think critically at all.
        Also Ozzy would have won if Yul didn’t have the idol? yeah sure, let’s forget that the idol is why the Aitu 4 were in power so he wasn’t voted off when Adam won immunity.

        • Hornacek

          In that scenario, I am 99 44/100% confident that Christine would have beaten Cochran at RI – she rejoins the game and joins Ozzy’s alliance. Fairly confident that she does not flip her vote at tribal (she hates Coach) so they go to rocks. Ozzy is immune, Whitney used the idol, and Keith got votes, so they’re immune – that leaves only 3 people on Ozzy’s alliance drawing rocks. But on Coach’s alliance only Rick isn’t drawing rocks (because he got the votes). So the odds are in Ozzy’s alliance’s favor of not getting “rocked out”. You never know in a rock draw, but odds are Ozzy’s group comes out on top, they eliminate Coach’s group, and Ozzy might end up winning the season.

          Of course Ozzy wouldn’t know all this at the time, but it’s still a dumb and unnecessary move to vote himself out since he should know that Christine is likely coming back in the game and she hates Coach. He should have viewed her as more trustworthy then Cochran, someone he though was as weak-willed as he was weak physically.

          But this would have resulted in the darkest timeline because Cochran probably wouldn’t have been asked back for Caramoan.

          • Kemper Boyd

            I don’t find Cochran not being in Caramoan the darkest timeline at all.

          • Hornacek

            What if Sherri wins???

          • Kemper Boyd

            She wouldn’t, although this timeline probably has Troyzan staying on and Malcolm replacing someone else and no Dawn…

          • Hornacek

            You’re right – Troyzan would win Caramoan!

  • Just a heads up for everyone drafting teams here: Once I notice that your group is done drafting, I restrict your league so others can’t accidentally overwrite it. If you need me to remove that in order to change something, let me know.

    • Black Dynamite

      One on One is very tempting. I’ll definitely jump on that if anyone wants to challenge me.

      • I mistakenly thought Barbara was going to be the one with 7 fantasy teams and fucked up rooting interests. It’s gonna be you.

        • Black Dynamite

          She still can be if she wants to challenge me one on one, in addition to the league we are already in together.

        • indescribable hat

          I’m thinking having as many teams as possible will cancel each other out so I’ll be able to root for whoever I want again.

      • Super duper fan

        I wouldn’t personally mind some aditional challenge.

        • Black Dynamite

          Sweet!!

  • Ms. Sweaterfan

    I don’t think I’ll ~formally register~ it here (because our system is so different), but my husband and I did our own really simplified one-on-one draft for this season. We each picked 5 players and we’re basically going to award points based on how far each person gets (with bonuses for finalists and a big winner bump). We’ve tried various drafts and boot order prediction games in the past but they always get too complicated, so we’re going to see how this method goes 🙂

    Ms. Sweaterfan’s team:
    Andrea
    Sarah
    Aubry
    Malcolm
    Cirie

    Mister Sweaterfan’s team:
    Sierra
    Michaela
    Ozzy
    Troyzan
    Sandra

    • Black Dynamite

      As someone on the Andrea Winner bandwagon, I’m loving your team. Plus you got Aubry, Malcolm and Cirie. Great squad.

    • If you decide to join, I think @SNPalsy:disqus is looking for additional people to draft with.

  • Super duper fan

    Is it just me or every time I hit “new reply” some comments disappear?

    • Disqus hates when there are too many comments loaded, and it starts fucking up. You’ll probably have to refresh the page.

      • Super duper fan

        Yeah,I had to refresh the page cause when I clicked your reply my original comment disappeared. I’ll somehow get used to it.

  • Violina23

    I want to play! I want to play!

    My kids are off from school and I’m in full fledged “Can’t sleep, Clown’ll eat me mode” so I didn’t see this sooner. Anyone left want to join me? My mom says I’m cool….

    • Max_Jets

      I’m on board. Is @disqus_CdEstUanjb:disqus still interested in joining a league?

      • pufflehuff

        I’m new here and haven’t played before, but if you need a number to round off the team, you can use me and I’ll slink to victory, I mean selflessly pick Debbie & Troy early to support your wins.

      • HBO CEO of Tits

        yeah sure

        • Dammit. Just a bit too late again.

          If you want to make a comment requesting a group of 5, I’ll feature it like we did with Violina’s. Or you can go 1-on-1 with someone.

          • Violina23

            P.S. Thanks for that! 🙂

            I really love this idea. You guys are the best

        • Saturday Night Palsy

          If you’re still interested I’m looking for four brave souls to weather my insufferable gloating for the season.

    • Hornacek

      I’ll play.

    • corndogshuffle

      Let me know if you need a fifth. Or even another person to join your league!

    • Violina23

      Yay! OK. So in order of responses I see:
      * violina23
      *corndogshuffle
      *Hornacek
      *Max_Jets
      *Pufflehuff

      Sound good??

      I’m at the zoo with the kids currently, but we can start drafting here when you guys are all ready

      • Hornacek

        I’m ready. Unleash the randomizer!

        • pufflehuff

          sorry, just seeing this – ready whenever!

      • corndogshuffle

        Randomize me Cap’n!

    • Violina23

      OK! Here is the order:

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6e0885d3f398a2c403b624e9873ed354307f842b9a75578874a8aaab6015c3f4.jpg

      @pufflehuff:disqus you are first!

      I have an orchestra dress rehearsal tonight so I’ll be out of comission until 10:30ish EST, but I’ll check in later

      OH! And I’m open to witty league name suggestions

      • pufflehuff

        Hoorah! And also, no, doomed to a certain somebody. For a first pick, I’ll take Michaela. @corndogshuffle, you’re up…

        • corndogshuffle

          I’ll be taking Sarah Lacina!

          Your turn @hornacek:disqus

          • Hornacek

            I was sure I would get 1st or 5th spot in the order, so I’m pleasantly surprised with getting 3rd. Nice even amount between turns.

            I have no idea for the league name but since we have 2 players with “huff” in their names we could incorporate that.

            I’ll take Malcom. He’s like Joey Amazing but is actually good at strategy. Plus I need to pick at least one person who, based on previous games, will probably find an idol(s).

            Your turn, @Max_Jets:disqus

          • pufflehuff

            For team names I propose something that combines names (maybe some sorta choir if you are a player, Violina?) or something like ‘Wine and Cheese’ but less pretentious (Whisky and Coke League?)

            Or we call our league ‘Where have all the Kellys Gone?’ in protest at CBS’ multiple C/Sierras and Michelles…

          • Hornacek

            Hornpuffcorn Violinjets

            Nailed it!

          • pufflehuff

            we could be like the merge tribes where their name is an amalgamation of the previous tribes: really cool!!

          • Hornacek

            In honor of my first pick, I suggest Arab Rab.

          • pufflehuff

            Your knowledge of Fijian culture is impressive.

          • Hornacek

            “Fijian. Funny word. Three dotted letters in a row.”
            “Is it hyphenated?”
            “It used to be. Back in the bad old days. Of course every generation hyphenates the way it wants to. Then there’s N’Sync. Heh. What the hell is that? Jump in any time, pufflehuff, these are good topics.”

          • Violina23

            For some reason disqus didn’t show me this entire part of the conversion. I love all your suggestions. “Hornpuffcorn Violinjets” made me laugh aloud and scare one of my cats 😂😂😂

          • Hornacek

            I’m all for “Hornpuffcorn Violinjets” if no one else has other suggestions.

          • pufflehuff

            I think we should embrace ‘Hornpuffcorn Violinjets’ and know that we will be the Chabogo Mogo or whatever of this tournament 🙂

          • pufflehuff

            I also think that whatever name we go with, we should have some sort of beverage, whisky/rum/tea, whatever, and take a drink whenever one of the players on our team describes something as game changing.

            And everybody should drink if Fan Favourite Sierra Dawn Thomas uses the term.

          • Violina23

            Disqus is messing with me, but @corndogshuffle:disqus it’s your pick whenever you get the chance.

          • corndogshuffle

            Oh God sorry guys, I didn’t get a notification (or I accidentally passed right over the notification). I’ll make my pick now. I’m taking Aubry Bracco.

            You’re up @disqus_hRLllYddrG:disqus

          • pufflehuff

            noooooooo, that is exactly who I wanted! alright, give me a sec…

          • pufflehuff

            Okay, a bit torn about this but Hali + Tai!

            I think Michaela is the perfect Griffyndor and want to get a sampling of Harry Potter houses (solid strategy!?) so I’m going to take Hali as a Ravenclaw who can maybe stealth her way through this and Tai as a good Hufflepuff who might also do some idol-finding. Now I just need to get a Slytherin to round things off…feel that might be possible…

            you’re up again @corndogshuffle (not sure how to tag you properly!)

          • corndogshuffle

            I think you’re gonna get a Slytherin by default 🙂

            My next selection is Fan Favorite Game Changer Sierra Dawn-Thomas. I think she skates her way to the end just like in Worlds Apart. She is going to last a *long* time in this game. With a key Immunity win and a little boot order magic, that could mean FFGCSDT is a Survivor winner.

            @hornacek:disqus, you’re up!

          • Violina23

            Starting to scrape the bottom of the barrel… OK I get two picks so I’ll go with:

            Ciera and Zeke.

            Zeke has that disadvantage of being the person that nobody knows anything about, and I didn’t have a good feeling about the lack of attention they gave him at the finale, but I think this group is going to be very aggressive against the former winners and “threats”, and I’m hoping he hangs in there.

            Plus, he was adorkable when I met him at Know-It-Alls, and I want to have an extra reason to root for him 🙂

          • Violina23

            @Max_Jets:disqus Back to you for your final pick!

          • Max_Jets

            I was hoping you would choose a winner so I wouldn’t have to choose between the two! I guess I’ll go with Tony. He has a massive target on his back, but he’s also very likely to get idol points and can hopefully convince the other bigger targets to work with him. Getting close to scraping the bottom of the barrel, @hornacek:disqus

          • Hornacek

            “bottom of the barrel” is right.

            I could put aside my dislike of Sandra as a player (I know, I’m in the minority, I accept it) if I thought she would get me points and go far in the game, but I just don’t think either of those is going to be true. She’s too weak in the challenges, and I think she’s too big a target.

            Debbie is a nut-case, and based on her post-game KR interviews I just don’t think she’s realized the mistakes she made and is willing to change her game – she played well from ep 2 to the merge but she went off the rails post-merge (telling Tai he’s joining her alliance, refusing to even consider voting Julia off). And even though she did get along with people in KR, her antics might just annoy these players.

            Troy(zan) is … Troyzan. Even worse than Debbie, I think he thinks he doesn’t need to make any changes from his previous game, and probably feels the most that he needs to prove to America that he was right in OW and will play too hard too fast. He’ll probably try to bro-down with the other guys, so of these three he might be set-up to go the farthest (furthest? furthermost?). Or he could just annoy everyone by talking about whose island this is. He would fit in with my all-male picks, and of these three he’s probably the most likely to do better in challenges and not get voted out for being weak. But still …

            This is a real Sophie’s Rafe’s choice here. I guess I’ll throw logic aside and pick … (opens drawer, finds D&D dice, roll’s the 1d4 die (4 meaning “roll again”)) … Troy?!? Stupid die! Oh well, my all-male team is a reality!

            The ball’s in your court, @corndogshuffle:disqus !

          • corndogshuffle

            Damn… believe it or not I was hoping to get Troy. I like him as a potential source of fantasy points. He will be a challenge asset on his tribe (and possibly in the individual portion of the game) and won’t get targeted early for being a threat like a winner would or like Vytas did. As long as he doesn’t start telling people that this is his island I think he has a long shelf life.

            I really don’t like these choices… believe it or not Hornacek I am closer to you about Sandra than most. However, I will still be picking Sandra Diaz-Twine because unlike Debbie, I believe Sandra has the ability to talk herself out of trouble. Debbie isn’t self aware enough to recognize that she is in trouble.

            That’s why I picked Sandra, and that is also why @pufflehuff is saddled with Debbie!

          • Hornacek

            Troy *is* the oldest man on this cast so while I think he will be a challenge asset, I don’t think he’ll be a great one in comparison to the other men.

            “believe it or not Hornacek I am closer to you about Sandra than most. ” There are dozens of us! DOZENS!

            Yeah, if I was in your shoes and had to choose between Sandra and Debbie, I would probably bite the bullet and pick Sandra. “Damn, Debbie!”

          • pufflehuff

            noooooooooooooooooooooo! I almost would have preferred being left with Troy for the sheer ‘this really is the barrel-bottom of it all.’ Corndogshuffle, first you snatch Aubrey and then you leave me with Debbie, all the while dissing Sandra, serious nemesis potential 🙂

            I’m surprised how low Tony + Sandra were in this league – both are high risk but I think they’re both great players and some of the threats will definitely make it deep.

            Feeling a bit unsure about my team – Michaela, Hali, Tai, Debbie! – but while I think it’s unlikely that any will win (although, go Michaela!) I can see a couple of them getting to the endgame. And at least Debbie is definitely a Slytherin, so I’ve got some thematic consistency. Also some interestingly contrasting teams in this league – esp Hornacek’s + Violina’s – so excited to see how this plays out/groan as all I have left to root for is Debbie goating along gleefully.

            Thanks for setting this up, Violina. Go Hornpuffcorn ViolinJets!

          • Hornacek

            I am reasonably satisfied with my team (Malcolm, JT, Caleb, Troy(zan)). I wanted to get 2 men/2 women but fate (and you other 4) conspired against me. I feel confident with Malcolm and JT, I think Caleb will do great physically and no one is going to target him for any strategic reasons, and Troy will likely do fine physically but has the biggest chance of my 4 to be voted out early for annoying his tribe.

            I concur – Go HornPuffCorn ViolinJets!

          • Violina23

            Thanks for joining me you guys!

            My team could do really awesome or REALLY badly. Can’t wait to find out 🙂

          • corndogshuffle

            Agree about Troy as the oldest man. I probably didn’t phrase my point well, so I’ll clarify. If two of the best ways to get clipped in Survivor are “stand out in challenges in either direction” and “be a threat to win”, I don’t think Troy is likely to trigger alarms for either of those reasons. Especially in a returning player season when challenge ability seems to be less valued pre merge. If Troy is a little off putting, I think it could actually *help* him as long as he isn’t just flat out horrible.

            Yeah as far as Sandra goes… I mean I don’t think she just stumbled into two wins, but she often gets credited as being some sort of genius and I don’t see it. She is a funny character who got huge breaks that helped her win both of her seasons (to be fair, she had to capitalize on those breaks). If you watched either of her seasons without knowing she had two wins, I think there is a 0% chance you would consider her anything better than a middle to lower tier winner with excellent sound bites.

            But in a race between her and Debbie it’s like you said… the choice for me was pretty clear. I think Sandra could put out a fire. I have no faith in Debbie’s ability to even notice said fire. I’ll take Sandra with no reservations and hope for the best.

          • pufflehuff

            I’m sad that I never made it to KIA when I lived in New York and can imagine that Zeke is full adorkable. I’m pretty high on Ciera – she’s in my pick 4! – but I do fear for Zeke in this season, sadly.

          • corndogshuffle

            I’m glad I went with Aubry at this spot, I almost took FFGCSDT there but I thought she was more likely to be around a few picks later. Looks like I was right!

          • pufflehuff

            ugh, worked out well for you! You’ll be drinking a lot of bourbon because I get the impression that Fan Favourite Sierra Dawn Thomas is going to be talking about a lot of game changing.

          • Violina23

            We keep stealing each other’s picks, i was going to go for FFGGSDT myself 😉

            (List and spreadsheet are updated)

            Let’s see if @hornacek:disqus can read my mind for his next pick….

          • Hornacek

            Argh – the 3 women just taken were on my list for my 3rd pick. Now I have to look through the rest of the list …

            I was hoping to pick 2 men and 2 women but looking at the women left … ugh … I don’t think that’s gonna happen.

            I’ll take … Caleb. He may get targeted among the Kaoh-Rong-4 but of those 4 I think he’s the one with the smallest target (at least pre-merge). He never went to tribal in KR and was never really part of any strategy decisions. After Zeke and Michaela, he’s the closest to a “new” player among the rest of these returning players. Unless there’s a huge shift pre-merge to get rid of physical players, who’s going after Caleb? I just hope that he bro’s down with other strong players, and for my sake and his, he hydrates before every challenge.

            @Max_Jets:disqus shall we play a game?

          • Max_Jets

            I’m trying to guess who will be chosen in the next round…I’ll take Brad. He seems to pretty self aware about his game, and is actually probably one of the humbler people in the cast based on pre-game interviews. I think he seems likely to make the merge at least if he doesn’t take on the leadership role again.

            @Violina23:disqus you’re up

          • corndogshuffle

            I’ll be playing with straight bourbon so I apologize for whatever atrocities I type out this season.

          • corndogshuffle

            Whiskey and coke would be amazing! I do like the “Where have all the Kellys gone” idea too. The idea @Hornacek had made me laugh. I realize that I contributed absolutely nothing to that conversation but that’s what I think haha.

          • corndogshuffle

            I love the Malcolm pick. Almost made it myself. On paper he might have the most upside to win of anyone on this cast once you factor in the target players like Sandra and Tony will have. But I’m *very* high on Sarah and wanted to lock her in. I think there is less chance of Sarah getting clipped pre merge for reasons like “she’s a huge threat”.

          • Hornacek

            I agree about Sarah, but I figured my 2nd and 3rd picks would probably be for players that would not be targeted, and my 4th pick will likely be “the best of what’s left”, so for my 1st I had to go for someone I thought had the best chance of winning without being a target right away.

            That said, with my luck Malcolm will probably be gone before the merge. Or the swap.

          • Max_Jets

            Hmm, I’ll take Ozzy and hope he’s still as good at challenges.

            On to you, @Violina23

          • Violina23

            I was going to pick Malcolm!

            I’m going to duplicate one of my Pick 4 choices, Andrea. I think these larger-than-life personalities are going to let her set down some good roots in the “background” for stronger late-game play.

            Back to you @disqus_hRLllYddrG:disqus !

          • Max_Jets

            Michaela and Malcolm were my top 2!

            Are we not doing the snake draft?

          • Violina23

            Yes, we are — I was last and picked twice, and then it went back up the chain. @corndogshuffle:disqus is next, then pufflehuff goes twice

          • Max_Jets

            Cirie! The biggest threat that I have a good feeling about for the season, but maybe that’s just because she got voted off early last time. @hornacek:disqus

          • Hornacek

            I’ll take JT (I thought he’d be gone by the time I got to my 2nd pick).

            Of the 3 returning winners, he definitely has the smallest target on him. Everyone will be targeting Tony and Sandra, but I can’t see anyone saying “You know, the first person we have to get rid of is JT!” (well, maybe Cirie). As long as he’s not writing any letters to anyone and giving idols away, hopefully he’ll remember how he played the 1st time and do that again.

            Your move, @corndogshuffle:disqus

          • pufflehuff

            Agh, so hard to watch! Curses to you Violina for snagging Andrea + Varner. I really couldn’t decide between Andrea, Malcolm + Michaela as a first pick and then went with the one I would most like to win, which is perhaps a questionable strategy, but I figured she wouldn’t be available in the second round.

            I’m heading to an all day thing and will be away from the internets, so won’t be able to make the next move until later tonight, but I also live in the U.K., so basically in the future, so shouldn’t be too long.

            There’s one person I’m hoping for in this round, so trying some black magic to make sure you’re on a different wavelength, corndogshuffle!

      • Don’t forget to log your picks here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HU8TZBeF6ntzfvDRkUCJj_Cb6DgiDjNlpFPf-MoT8d4/edit#gid=1204109043

        I added your names and the first three picks since I was on that sheet anyway.

  • Saturday Night Palsy

    Anyone still lurking around here? I found this late (dumb phone!) and wondered if anyone was still interested. I promise to keep my trash talk to a minimum. *employs four fingered handshake*

    • Hornacek

      @disqus_CdEstUanjb:disqus is still looking.

      • Saturday Night Palsy

        I let him know a few minutes ago.

    • BadPlayer91

      hmm, I’ll jump in if you’ll have me.

      • Saturday Night Palsy

        Of course I will. Welcome aboard!

        • Hornacek

          Of course you’ll take a bad player – better odds for you.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            And not even the best bad player. The 91st bad player!

            Of course by the end of the season I may be BadPlayer92.

          • Hornacek

            Or he could have been named the best bad player in the year 1991

          • BadPlayer91

            This is, ironically, exactly why pre-teen me chose that name. I was hoping people would think i was terrible. But when you’ve been gaming with a handle for 10 years, it’s hard to drop

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            You don’t do ballet, do you?

          • BadPlayer91

            no…..

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Making sure you weren’t Mari.

          • BadPlayer91

            lol, yeah, no, i don’t get played to game. If i did, i probably should’ve change my handle years ago….

          • corndogshuffle

            It truly is your cross to bear!

      • Saturday Night Palsy

        And you’re up!

        • BadPlayer91

          I’ll take Michaela plz.

          Also, is this okay for responding? Where should i respond? DERP

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            This is good. And you have Michaela.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Your turn again in the slowest draft ever.

          • BadPlayer91

            Andrea

            Kinda surprised i managed to get her…

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            She’s the only one I don’t know anything about.

          • prettyboyprobst

            She didn’t fall past #6 in any of the other leagues and I dreaded she would be there, tempting me to pick her up, but I didn’t want her from the start and decided to stick with the plan and keep her off my team. But she could go far.

      • Saturday Night Palsy

        Boom goes the dynamite! You’re up again!

        • BadPlayer91

          Cirie plz

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            She was another one I was worried to pick. I was afraid no one would let her close to the end. Hope she does well, though.

    • HBO CEO of Tits

      I am in

      • Saturday Night Palsy

        Hell yes you are! Welcome aboard, sir!

      • Saturday Night Palsy

        You have first pick!

        • HBO CEO of Tits

          Give me JT

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Done. And that makes my pick easy: Malcolm.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            And you inherit Debbie!

          • HBO CEO of Tits

            Ah fuck was hoping for Troy or brad

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            The Summer of Troyzan belongs to me.

      • Saturday Night Palsy

        You’re up again! Two picks!

    • Somthing Bout Football

      ok… I’m in

      • Saturday Night Palsy

        You can join the good ship! Trust no one but me!

        • Somthing Bout Football

          lol isn’t that what everyone says though?

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Just me and the untrustworthy.

      • Saturday Night Palsy

        And you’re up!

    • Saturday Night Palsy

      One spot left!

      • prettyboyprobst

        I’ll gladly take it, if I can have it!

        • Saturday Night Palsy

          It’s yours! Off to randomize!

          • prettyboyprobst

            Hooray!

            And I’m fifth, which is super low-maintenance. Otherwise I can’t think of too many advantages about picking late and again super-late. Very unfair.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            If this draft is anywhere close to the insanity of the Outcasts draft you should be fine.

          • prettyboyprobst

            Yeah, I’m just laying the groundwork to make my upcoming come-from-behind victory so much more impressive.

            (Last to join the league + last to make a pick would be enough to qualify it as such, even if I take the lead after the first episode, am I right? Seeing how I’ll be dead last after two of the three essential legs of Survivor fantasy, with only the point-awarding leg still in question?)

          • prettyboyprobst

            Transcripts or it didn’t happen!

            Also, what’s the commish’s thinking on our league-name?

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            I’m open to suggestions.

          • prettyboyprobst

            Oh, you’re that kind of commissioner!

            …but I don’t have one right now.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Now that you’ve said it twice, Commisioner Palsy’s Peons sounds good.

          • prettyboyprobst

            Not bad at all! Anyways, I’m going to submit two more proposals in 3…, 2…, 1…

          • prettyboyprobst

            I was originally thinking about sth. in reference to the outcast-league, but it doesn’t work if you’re actually on it.

            Although, depending on the league we’re striving to be, I might have another one:
            If this is about respecting each other, fair play and the spirit of the game, it’s back to the drawing board.
            But if you’re ready as our commissioner to lead us into shit-talking battle against all these sorry pretenders in the other leagues, we could be the Smear Campaign.

            First we would have to make absolutely clear that all of our teams, composed of the same 20 people, are somehow better than any other team and bIame the edit and production interference, should another league produce an overall frontrunner.

            Later, if need be, we could call into question the scoring system, rules and point tallies and insinuate people were spoiled from the start.
            We could never accept a winner from another league and would have to keep the nuclear option (e.g. finding out how monkey-proof that spreadsheet really is) on the table for the duration of the season.

            Other than that, maybe Something Palsy(-Walsy) About Bad Boys as a placeholder until we know better after the draft? You could play around with that well-tested formula a little bit and find sth adequate.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Man, I just figured out what you were doing with the “Something Palsy… thing!

          • BadPlayer91

            I would like to recommend the following terrible puns:

            It’s About Twine!
            The Wizards of OZ
            Cirie-ous Bizness
            Malcolm in the Middle
            Aubry-viated Love
            Tia-ed up in Knots

          • prettyboyprobst

            These are high-quality, appropriately terrible name based puns, but I think they would be more fitting for a team, that has these players in a prominent position. But you can give your team within our league a name as well.
            (For a league name it’s too narrow of a concept imho.) Just open the spread sheet and type it in. I already altered my name and, tbqh, yours too, but you can change that any time in the doc.

            I also came up with another place-holder name for the league, which you’ll find there*. What do you think of my (other) suggestions and what about SNP’s?

            *one could change that to simply bigly or big league, if what we have now is too much of a mouth full.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Holy cow! You are finally up! Two picks!

          • prettyboyprobst

            I was basically logged off already. Caleb was unexpected, but everyone I wanted with my early picks went in the top three, almost the whole leftover-group is horrible value this high in my opinion, but more on that later. Can I trade further down? Nah, way to complicated.

            I’m sleep-deprived, had to look up the tribe divisions again and I don’t want him, but give me Ozzy, at six. For number five give me…..(scrolls up again, comes back)…you know what, F it, give me Tony for my fifth pick!

            [mic drop]

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Bold move with Tony! I applaud you! And I hate Ozzy but I get the points. Not bad.

          • prettyboyprobst

            Ozzy isn’t the red flag for me that he is for so many around here, but I’m very much meh on him.
            Tony better find some idols asap! (Idols of course are also a big reason for drafting him, but there is just a hint of buyer’s remorse trying to creep in, which I managed to shoo away for now.)

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            My fear is that Sandra will always be the only one to win twice. That the one time (HvV) was a mistake and players will never have that happen again. For all the “Sandra is queen” talk I’ve been hearing, she’s not going early in any of the drafts. I took Tony 9th in Outcasts, but like I said, that draft was crazy!

          • prettyboyprobst

            I’m more in line with Andy here and think that winners don’t have it that much harder per se. In Tony’s and Sandra’s case, that’s a different story because they are such huge threats, but for some weird reason I don’t feel that bad about their chances in this particular season. And it’s not just the first vote they are in high danger, Sandra will stick out even more after the tribe-expansion in episode three, if she’s still there.

            It’s probably just wishful thinking on my part, but for some reason I believe that tribe will turn to Troy, Ciera or Aubry first (or Varner, minus the wishful thinking), should they go to tribal.

            Sierra is kind of the opposite for me. I think she should do great and struggle to come up with a reason why she wouldn’t (even though I don’t think she is that good of a player), but somehow I don’t feel that good about her chances.
            Hali otoh I can see why she could have a hard time, but I actually feel
            quite good about her. (Again, probably just wishful thinking)

    • Saturday Night Palsy

      We’re off!

      1. HBO CEO of tits-
      2. Saturday Night Palsy-
      3. BadPlayer91-
      4. Something Bout Football-
      5. Pretty Boy Probst-
      6. Pretty Boy Probst-
      7. Something Bout Football-
      8. BadPlayer91-
      9. Saturday Night Palsy-
      10. HBO CEO of tits-
      11. HBO CEO of tits-
      12. Saturday Night Palsy-
      13. BadPlayer91-
      14. Something Bout Football-
      15. Pretty Boy Probst-
      16. Pretty Boy Probst-
      17. Something Bout Football-
      18. BadPlayer91-
      19. Saturday Night Palsy-
      20. HBO CEO of tits-

      • Don’t forget to log your picks (and a league name, if you have one) here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HU8TZBeF6ntzfvDRkUCJj_Cb6DgiDjNlpFPf-MoT8d4/edit#gid=1204109043

        • Saturday Night Palsy

          Am I supposed to be doing this as I go?

          • Up to you, commish.

          • prettyboyprobst

            It’s not like I could contain myself from doing it, anyway. (That’s probably why the blank space for a league name bothered me more than the rest of our group.)

            The spreadsheet helps in watching the teams take shape and in comparing what we got so far. (early returns say my team sucks)

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            You’re up for your last two picks.

          • prettyboyprobst

            Thank god!

            It was a really tough decision between two players for my fourth pick. I was secretly hoping she would be there for me in the fourth round the whole time, so I take Sierra and Sandra.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Sierra then Sandra, or do you care about the order.

          • prettyboyprobst

            I do, but that’s the order I’m looking for. In my eyes Sierra is a top 5 talent in this draft and I only didn’t take her before because a) I already have her on my pick4-team and was trying to to diversify my portflio (and already had Ozzy) and b) was going for a more likable team than my pick4-bunch, which has two people I’m not a huge fan of in Malcolm and JT, and two that I don’t care about at all.

            But I couldn’t pass her up again and it doesn’t seem right to put her in the fourth round.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Hoew do you feel about Sole Survivors as a team name?

          • prettyboyprobst

            I…don’t get it? Or maybe I just don’t like it, but it’s probably both.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Well, there’s five of us…

            Kinda like a group called the Lone Rangers. Doesn’t really make sense as a name. Plus it directly references the show. Also the sole survivor is the winner and we’re all clearly better than the other leagues.

            I’m no jokester. I don’t care about the damn name. I’m just the Commissioner!

          • prettyboyprobst

            Yeah, it’s both.

            (English not being my first language, I wasn’t sure if I was missing something in the language, or just the context.)
            And I tried to google Lone Rangers to find out if you’re talking music groups or tv or what, but no dice.

            For me it is so far
            1. Smear campaign* (although it seems there are no takers, which is a shame!)
            2. some clever mix from our names*
            3. Big League* (or something similiar)
            4. Commissioner Palsy’s Peons

            5. all of Not-Mari’s puns, starting with “It’s about Twine!”

            99. this

            *iow, my ideas

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            The Lone Rangers were a fictional band in a Brandon Fraisier movie. What’s an applicable Tyson quote?

          • prettyboyprobst

            You mean to describe my ignorance?

            I don’t know, he said something about getting man-tiaras with his winnings once, and that he’s still pretty awesome when he didn’t win again another time.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            No, because Tyson is my favorite and you seem to like him as well. But Man-tiaras… I might have to push that through.

          • prettyboyprobst

            Yeah, I do, but I’m bad with having quotes at the ready.
            But I’d rather just be one of your peons before we try to force a quote into our name.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            So a Peon over a Man-tiara? I just hate to point out that it’s always about me.

            Also, what’s your first language?

          • prettyboyprobst

            Well, there are other options, but I do like the peons-name. (had to look up palsy and peons, so that would make it worth it at least)

            As for my native tongue, two hints:

            – ACHTUNG, ACHTUNG!
            – we have fancy Umlaute on our keyboards like this: Ää, Öö, Üü, and whatever this is: ß

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Zehr gut!* And “people” may be more kind than “peons”

            (No fancy umlaut)

          • prettyboyprobst

            Sehr gut, indeed. (it only sounds like a Z there)

            Also: WE DID IT! WE FINALLY DID IT!

            I can’t believe we’re finally done drafting, this one moved as slow as melasses.

            Too bad HBO got the last pick by default, I need to talk to him about switching pick 4 teams. He won’t do it, but then I would be back to only one overlap in Ozzy.

          • prettyboyprobst

            Hmm, not sure I’m on board with “people”. You could even say I don’t like “people”. I’m not a “people”-person.

            Fwiw, I dug up some Tyson quotes, but it won’t be that easy to get a a league-name out of them. http://www.purplerockpodcast.com/pick-4-survivor-game-changers-fantasy-league/

            The most usable to me seemed to be

            – “I never liked Sierra, ever.”
            – give hope to stupid people around the world
            – “Little weird, being outfoxed by an idiot.”
            -“Exotic, expensive furs on my shoulder. Jewels on these pretty
            fingers. We’re talkin’ big time.”
            – “I’ll wear a tiara– a man tiara. Do they make those?”

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            I approve of what you are doing, mostly because I can’t figure it out. Stamp of approval from Commissioner Palsy!

          • prettyboyprobst

            Damn, I’m guilty of this myself, but you’re editing your posts a lot (and then I see the edited part only after refreshing)!

            Will do, but again, these are mere suggestions, meant to inspire or sow distrust and create outrage, but everybody can change them.

      • BadPlayer91

        So, @disqus_CdEstUanjb:disqus gets first pick, hmmmm

        • Saturday Night Palsy

          He apparently needs some time to mull it over.

        • Saturday Night Palsy

          Time for your last pick!

          • BadPlayer91

            Brad plz

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Debbie?

          • BadPlayer91

            Nope, Brad

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            If you had chosen either of the others I would have had ten different players in three different leagues*. I will double down on… Troyzan. This will be the summer of Troyzan.

            *I forgot I have Malcolm in two.

      • Somthing Bout Football

        caleb

        • Saturday Night Palsy

          Kind of a dumb pick, but okay.

          • Somthing Bout Football

            your a dumb pick…. but nobody complains bout you

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Everybody complains about me.

          • Somthing Bout Football

            well that’s probably true…. but that’s because your an ass

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            And you’ve known this for how long now? Also I think you’re* about to be up again.

            *proper spelling

          • Somthing Bout Football

            I try to ignore it

          • BadPlayer91

            FIGHT!

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            I know! And with the Commissioner!

          • Somthing Bout Football

            zeke

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            The Commissioner will allow it.

          • Somthing Bout Football

            ciera

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Done.

          • Somthing Bout Football

            tai

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Kinda figured. Also kinda figure who’s going next.

          • prettyboyprobst

            Yeah, Tai being available made me really reconsider if I should pull the trigger on Sandra (and I like Tai), but I finally talked myself into it.

          • prettyboyprobst

            one more

          • Somthing Bout Football

            well he annoys me! ALL THE DAMN TIME…… he thinks he knows everything! and he never knows when to be quiet!

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            I won’t be quiet when you’re up! Pick number 3! (DebbieDebbieDebbieDebbie!)

          • Somthing Bout Football

            james

          • prettyboyprobst

            Huh? There is no James on the cast.

            (Just checked, there is one in J.T., I guess, but he was the first pick and is off the board)

            Pick one from here http://www.purplerockpodcast.com/survivor-game-changers-fantasy-league-purple-rock-staff-draft/#comment-3172994010 and stay close by, you’ll be up again right after me.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            As the Commissioner of this league I will NOT allow it.

          • prettyboyprobst

            Sigh, I’m already missing this friendly banter between you guys.

            I guess everyone has different ideas of what constitutes good trash talk for a fantasy draft.

            In other news, what are we doing about that darn league name?

            I have a few more medleys in the pipe, but I’m also not married to that concept.
            I just think it’s decision time.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            There will be banter when the game starts up, rest assured. When @Something Bout Football yells at me in real life I don’t get to enjoy all the poor grammar and bad spelling like I can here on the internet.

            At this point I’m happy with “darn league name” or “quiet and humble”. Anything works for me really. What may sound dumb to start with will grow into a name to be respected and admired by all. Ours will be a league of glory, a league celebrated all through the Summer of Troyzan as the bards sing of the epic clash between prettyboyprobst and the wicked Commissioner Palsy (I won’t spoil it for you that I’m gonna win!)! Name us fair vice-commissioner so that we, the chosen ones, may bask in the glory of our future… glory!

            I need a thesaurus.

          • prettyboyprobst

            Oh, I didn’t realize you get to yell at each other in RL, too, but that makes sense. How come? (if you don’t mind me asking)

            And even if you don’t care about names at all, I don’t want to chose something everybody ends up hating and blaming only me for it. So, as the Silver to your Stern, let me run some completely new drafts by you.

            The way you spoke so glowingly about our league and the success that lies in its future in fact made me think of another option, that might just be my favourite, even though it’s a far cry from “quiet and humble”, which is a good fallback if nothing else itself.

            – A league of its own

            – the night hides bad tits and boy-feet (our 5 names incorporated)

            – ’bout Twine to get CiriE-Ous (4 names)

            – Saturday on HBO: ’91 Pro-Football (5)

            – Satur days, 9 bad players, 1 football (3)

            Which one do you like the best? Any of them that you like better than “Big League” and “quiet and humble”?

            PS: An epic clash between us, hmm … Ozzy-Troyzan final two? And while the offseason falls into the summer, isn’t the finale right around what will be known to later generations as…wait for it…”Oscension day”?

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            I like A League of It’s Own. That way, if we decide to keep the band together, we can keep the name and the other commenters can continue to watch our exploits from afar.

          • prettyboyprobst

            I like it too, although something in me was hoping you’d jump on one of the more creative options.

            I just noticed our league table is locked atm, but I will ask John to change it in the next days (already had him change my pick4 team today)

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            I like to keep it simple. Besides, everyone’s gonna call it the Palsy League anyhow.

          • prettyboyprobst

            True, true.

            A League of Its Own it is.

        • prettyboyprobst

          …aaand it’s your turn again!

      • Saturday Night Palsy

        My second pick was tough, but I’m hoping Varner learned from his last go-around.

      • HBO CEO of Tits

        Sarah and Hali

        • Saturday Night Palsy

          I was hoping you would pick two of my three. You only took one. I’ll take **

          • prettyboyprobst

            He also only took one of my four for which I had reasonable hope that they would be there at #15, and the other three are still on the board. (So depending on the fourteenth pick, it could be an easy decision for me coming up.)
            But then again, if Sarah and Aubrey had fallen that low, I would have had to reconsider.
            Even more so than Andrea at 8, Aubrey at 12 seems crazy low. I don’t feel good about her chances this time around at all, but at some point you have to snag her up, if she falls that deep.

        • prettyboyprobst

          So….here’s an idea: wanna switch teams with me in the pick-4-contest?

          We have almost the same teams now as it is and I want to sub in Michaela for Ozzy, but can’t do so because you already have that team. If not, no biggie, then I’d probably scrap Sierra for her.

  • Super duper fan

    I don’t know if you are still interested in One-on-One , but if are @disqus_3Sm0bOf1sj:disqus I can begin anytime you want, or if you’re busy right now, just tell me when you have free time and I’ll try to get here on time (unless I’ll be sleeping cause I’m living in Europe).

    • Black Dynamite

      I’m sorry, this slipped my mind. Yeah, I’m interested. If you can set it up, I can jump in and start 20-30 minutes from now.

      • Super duper fan

        I’ll get everything done.

      • Super duper fan
      • Super duper fan

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7425b8288db3323394846a7ac397a176844516509b3f43615d3e76768edde967.png

        Just say whenever you’re ready @disqus_3Sm0bOf1sj:disqus and I’ll begin.

        • Black Dynamite

          Ready to go.

          • Super duper fan

            Okay, since I know you are gonna pick her, I’m taking Andrea as my first pick.

          • Black Dynamite

            Cold blooded. I’ll take Malcolm and swing around with Aubry.

          • Super duper fan

            Since I have her in the two other leagues, I’m taking Hali, plus the MvsGX player who I think will get far, Michaela.

          • Black Dynamite

            I’ll answer back with JT and Sarah.

          • Super duper fan

            My next two picks are: Cirie cause I think from the ”BIG THREATS” of her, Sandra and Tony she has the most wiggle room to make the merge, and Brad cause he is practically the lock for me to make the merge.

          • Black Dynamite

            I agree about Cirie. I will take Ozzy and Zeke for my next two.

          • Super duper fan

            I’m picking now: Tai, cause he may get to the end if the alpha males decide to drag him as a goat, and Varner cause I don’t think he will be one of a first boots.

          • Black Dynamite

            I will take… Shit, this is getting hard. I will take Sierra and Ciera.

          • Super duper fan

            Gah! I hoped you wouldn’t take Ciera in this round.

            Well, on that note, I’m taking Caleb, cause I hope he will get some individual immunity wins, and he may be Ken of this season in placing, so I hope I get lucky.

            And, why the hell not, Sandra, cause she’s The Queen.

          • Black Dynamite

            I think Troy will go far, pretty much for the same reasons you picked Tai but this is the worse version of that scenario.

            My last pick is Tony. He won’t get far but he is fun to root for unlike Debbie. She is awful.

          • Super duper fan

            Great, I was hoping you would left me Debbie.

            And our teams are:

            Super duper fan:Andrea, Hali, Michaela, Cirie, Brad, Tai, Varner, Caleb, Sandra and Debbie

            Black Dynamite:Malcolm, Aubry, JT, Sarah, Ozzy, Zeke, Sierra, Ciera, Troy and Tony.

            I’m pretty satisfied with my team.

          • Black Dynamite

            As am I. Best of luck to you.

          • Super duper fan

            Thanks, the same to you.

  • Violina23

    My husband (@BassmanXVI) and I put in a 1-1 contest. We call it “Blood vs. Blood” 😉

    Violina23:
    * Malcolm
    * Sarah
    * JT
    * Aubry
    * Caleb
    * Hali
    * Brad
    * Ozzy
    * Tony
    * Troy

    BassmanXVI:
    * Sandra
    * Zeke
    * Ciera
    * FFGCSDT
    * Andrea
    * Varner
    * Cirie
    * Michaela
    * Tai
    * Debbie

    • pufflehuff

      I like how high Mr. Violina has Sandra – that’s commitment! And I gotta say, I’d be rooting more for his team but fear that your Team Alpha might take the win.

      • Violina23

        Yeah, if I went by who I was rooting for, it would be Sandra, Cirie, Michaela….. yeah exactly my husband’s team 😉

  • Crappy

    Arrghh… saw this too late! Anyone still up for a 4 or 5 people league?

    • prettyboyprobst

      paging @purplerockjohn:disqus to make this a featured post

      • Ah, good idea. I’m on it.

    • Crappy

      I am also up for a head to head 2 person draft.

      • Saturday Night Palsy

        Still looking, Crappy? I won’t let you miss out if you can handle the trash talk.

        • Crappy

          Yes. Let’s do it!

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Want me to randomize? (You’ll have to trust me, I don’t know how to do screen shots)

          • Crappy

            No, you can go first.

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            If you’re sure. I’ll take JT.

          • Crappy

            I ll take Malcolm and Michaela

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Andrea and Ciera

          • Crappy

            Tony and Sierra

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Cirie and Sandra.

          • Crappy

            Bleh.. I wanted Cirie.. I ll take Aubry and Zeke

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Brad and Hali.

          • Crappy

            Sarah and Tai

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Both my next picks! I’ll take Varner and Caleb. Time for your last two picks!

          • Crappy

            Ozzy and Troy

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            That gives me Debbie in two leagues! Yuck.

          • Crappy

            :)….will you enter in excel or shall I?

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            I’d love it if you did. I couldn’t get it to work last time.

          • Crappy

            Already did it — can check it here –https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HU8TZBeF6ntzfvDRkUCJj_Cb6DgiDjNlpFPf-MoT8d4/edit#gid=1105011128
            Would happily lose this for a Cirie win! Best of luck

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Likewise! Here’s to a great season!

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            Andrea
            Aubrey
            Brad
            Caleb
            Ciera
            Cirie
            Debbie
            Hali
            JT
            Malcolm
            Michaela
            Ozzy
            Sandra
            Sarah
            Sierra
            Tai
            Tony
            Troyzan
            Varner
            Zeke

            1. Saturday Night Palsy- JT
            2. Crappy-
            3. Crappy-
            4. Saturday Night Palsy-
            5. Saturday Night Palsy-
            6. Crappy-
            7. Crappy-
            8. Saturday Night Palsy-
            9. Saturday Night Palsy-
            10. Crappy-
            11. Crappy-

    • You should also try recruiting people in the daily posts that are going up. There should be a new one up just about every weekday at 10:30 am Eastern.

  • Diego Armando

    Okay Barbara, here is what the randomizer turned out (I copied and pasted the info, since I don’t know how to transfer screenshots):

    List Randomizer

    There were 2 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

    1. Diego Armando
    2. Barbara Anderson
    IP: 254.150.66.239
    Timestamp: 2017-02-27 01:21:49 UTC

    • I trust you.
      2) JT
      3) Andrea

      • Diego Armando

        4. Michaela
        5. Ozzy

        Going with challenge strength.

        • 5) Sierra
          6) Brad

          • Diego Armando

            8. Tai
            9. Aubry

            For old times sake.

          • Son of a bitch. You are the worse!

          • 10. Sarah
            11. Hali

          • Diego Armando

            12. Varner
            13. Cirie

          • Diego Armando

            12. Varner
            13. Cirie

          • 14. Zeke
            15. Troy

          • Diego Armando

            16. Ciera
            17. Tony

          • 18. Sandra
            19. Caleb

            Have fun with Debbie!

          • Black Dynamite

            “Have fun with Debbie”

            Still waiting for the first person on Earth to accomplish that goal.

          • Her daughters?

          • Black Dynamite

            As much as I enjoy talking shit about Debbie, I’ll relent on this one. There are people on Earth that would enjoy her company. She still sucks though.

          • Fair enough

          • Diego Armando

            Damn…….. Debbie.

    • Diego Armando

      Our official teams are as follows:

      Barbara Anderson: Andrea, Brad, Caleb, Hali, JT, Sandra, Sarah, Sierra, Troy, Zeke

      Diego Armando: Aubry, Ciera, Cirie, Debbie, Malcolm, Michaela, Ozzy, Tai, Tony, Varner

  • Ms_Woozah

    Finally got around to reading this whole thing. Appreciate the name drop, Andy. Always here to take one for the lulz.