Survivor Game Changers Week 6 Predictions

Due to rampant spoilers across the internet, we’re doing an exhibition week of predictions. No poll. Stats don’t count. Comments still do.

Four of us are unspoiled, so we’re sharing our thoughts. But we’re not keeping score this round.

Boot Predictions

Andy: The NuNuMana actually has numbers for the original Mana tribe, so if the trend of sticking by your first tribe continues, Brad Culpepper should be in danger. That trend will not hold. Hali is better served jumping off that sinking ship and moving up the ranks of her second tribe, particularly since Sandra is no longer in the game (her main ally on original Mana). We’ve seen Brad make inroads with Troy. And there’s no love lost between Michaela and Aubry. I think Aubry successfully sells Michaela out. The only question is, does she bring the tea?

… Okay then. Next. I think there will be a lot of talk of taking out the next big gun in Ozzy. Maybe even some talk of getting rid of the shifty Tai for fear of possible idols. Whether due to fear of idol repercussions or simply choosing to worry about these concerns later, I think it’ll all be talk. Jeff Varner is easily voted out by the majority.


John: Possibly spoiled, hates the internet, gonna nope his way right out of this one.


Emma: There has been evidence that Aubry would easily flip on those from her original – and even second – tribe, which would presumably put someone like Michaela in danger. But the original Mana on nunuMana are Michaela, Hali, Troy, and Aubry. Which of those people is going to feel like the biggest threat to Brad? Instead of flipping helping save Aubry, it will make her a consensus pick and she’ll be voted out unanimously.

I just have a feeling Tai might go home with two idols in his pocket, aided by people pretending to be on board with his plan to vote out Ozzy. After all, most of the others did legitimately think Tai was dangerous, they just knew he wasn’t as dangerous as the Queen.


Mark: Nuku: Varner is the odd man out here, and previews showing him angry aren’t likely to help. Plus this pre-merge has been about as fun as 2016, which is to say not very. When will the curse be lifted!?

Mana: In the event they do lose a challenge, I can see Aubry as a target since her fellow Cambodians are on the other tribe. It would explain her low key edit and Sandra comments. Either way, this episode will be brutal when the torch is snuffed.


Matt: Ride or die on last week’s Ozzy prediction. Still believe he is a threat, still believe most people want him out before he can go on an immunity run, and last week reinforced the desire to oust stars pre-merge and Ozzy is one of only two stars left in the cast (Cirie is the other). Also maybe I believe the preview editor is that one intern who was always right back in Blood vs Water.

I guess same logic applying they take a swing at Cirie. But screw the same logic and lets say Aubry instead. Why Aubry? Because she is invisible and because everyone remembers her as the person who should have won the season they most recently watched. Also the original tribal lines seem to be very much in play still and I think she is most likely to be the biggest outsider.


Andy John Emma
Mark Matt
Readers
First or Second Boot
Aubry Ciera Ciera Ciera Ciera Ciera
Third Out JT Debbie Cirie JT Cirie JT
Fourth Out JT Sandra Sandra  Sandra Varner JT
Fifth Out JT Sandra JT JT JT JT
Sixth Out Debbie Debbie Sarah  Aubry Ozzy  Debbie
Mana Seventh Boot Michaela
  Aubry Aubry Aubry  
Nuku Seventh Boot Varner   Tai
Varner Ozzy   
Score
Preseason Winner Pick Malcolm Tony
Malcolm
Andrea
Andrea Malcolm

No poll this week, as enough of you were concerned about the potential of the poll being spoilery that it’s not worth doing. But feel free to comment below, provided you haven’t read anything that may give you unfair knowledge of what will happen.

This includes comments in spoiler tags, which were rampant last week and totally within bounds of normal commenting, but probably too prevalent and tempting. So let’s lay off this week: you can wait one day to talk about the episode if you might know about what happens during it.

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  • Black Dynamite

    All these Aubry boot predictions hurt my heart. As for my choices, I’m going with Varner because I think Andrea, Zeke and Sarah rather continue to work with Ozzy as their shield than cut him just yet. I don’t think the other tribe loses but if they do then I’ll say Troy simply because I want it to happen. I have yet to get a prediction right this season.

    • Kemper Boyd

      I feel like Michaela is a better move for that tribe than Aubry, Aubry should be able to become a number for Brad or whoever takes control, so Brad.

      • Black Dynamite

        I agree with you. I’m just avoiding the Michaela prediction because i don’t want it to happen.

        • BadPlayer91

          Thank you. Michaela is bae. My heart also hurt from the one Michaela prediction, combined with all the Aubry ones. But given that from here on out i’m just going to predict the most exciting players will go home, my heart may just be constantly burning…

      • gouis

        Also, racism.

  • Kemper Boyd

    I am not spoiled by anything but my own over rampant imagination.
    The merge is at 13 though right because of that being the first time FFIPATGCSDT can play the Legacy Advantage.

    • Purplerockmatt

      I believe so, but of course we have no confirmation

      • BadPlayer91

        Given her advantage, we know something must be happening at 13, cause otherwise why give her immunity then. Of course, it could be something other than the merge, but it seems almost certain it is…

        • Maritimer

          I kind of hope they are doing something I’ve always wanted to see: Merge, have a full on vote or 2, then redistribute tribes for a couple of episodes. Since this is the season of random, experimental twists, seems like the time for it

          • Ms. Sweaterfan

            That would actually be fun! Plus I don’t care about any players I love getting screwed because I HATE EVERYONE NOW*

            *complete exaggeration

    • Ms. Sweaterfan

      I wonder why they said “at 13” in the note instead of “at the merge”? Seems like an unnecessary tip off for both the viewers and FFSDT. Then again, maybe it’s part of the advantage? A very subtle clue that not every player would get.

  • gouis

    Thanks for shutting down the poll. I’ve been actively avoiding it this season because I knew this would happen.

    • gouis

      Also thanks for providing a spoiler free space so I can get my Survivor fix without looking at comments elsewhere.

    • Without giving much away, I’ve been taking steps to make sure that the polls aren’t being invaded by spoilers. If it does happen, the person/people responsible will get banned.

      Luckily, it seems like we have an honest group taking part in the predictions.

      • gouis

        Honestly after the Vytas thing your polls have lost all credibility. It’s not you, people are just going to spoil themselves and appear smart. No thanks.

        • purplerockandy

          I think that’s literally the only time it’s ever been an issue. And it was a pretty unique situation where his boot was common knowledge for people who go to other places (thus, not me).

          The only two times this season the readers have been right were Ciera and JT. Both were pretty obvious boots.

          • gouis

            Hey man have your poll I don’t really care. I’m just not going to partake and look at the results. The comments are great and no one is playing spoiler.

            I mean you agree to some extent, as you closed it this week

          • purplerockandy

            I closed it… because of a poll.

            The polls know all!

          • gouis

            That’s some real snake eating its tail shit

          • Taako From Teevhii

            You remember the fall of 2016 right?

          • purplerockandy

            Yeah. The ones that had Hillary winning the popular vote.

  • Black Dynamite

    Also, I will be going to Andrea’s viewing thing tomorrow where Natalie Anderson and Brice are her guests (Dalton Ross is there too, I guess). I’m way too excited about the possibility of interacting with these awesome people.

  • Mike Hirsch

    I’m thinking for Nuku it’s between Ozzy, Varner, and Tai. I wouldn’t mind it being Ozzy or Tai, but since this is the season where we can’t have nice things, it’s probably Varner.

    For Mana, I pick whomever is the person that Aubry aligns herself with the closest, as that seems to be her thing.

    • Black Dynamite

      Way to make me want Aubry to align with Troy. That’s just cruel.

      • Mike Hirsch

        Whatever works!

  • Maritimer

    I felt like last weeks “I never made the jury” sob story was a bad omen for Varner and I stand by that. My game related justification is that Ozzy and Andrea have both only seen successful winners by Pagonging (or BWB-ing) in their seasons and I feel like they both think that’s how to win and that it will be their continuing plan.
    I have no idea about Mana. On the we can’t have nice things this season theory its Cirie, but I refuse to accept that, so I think Brad takes out Sarah to lock up Troy

    • gouis

      He’s just not cunning enough to get around his complete lack of physical ability. He’s been on the bad side of some numbers, but as fun as he is he’s just not great at the game.

      • Maritimer

        Especially with the group he is with, which cares about physical ability. I think his only way out could be with Zeke, but I don’t think the numbers are there

        • gouis

          Naw he just needs to get/let Ozzy and Tai to start fighting.

          • BadPlayer91

            I want to believe this, but i’m skeptical cause it was prominent in the preview. I feel like its a false facade, and we will get all this drama followed by a ‘shocking’ Varner exit.

    • pufflehuff

      Sarah is on nu-nu-Nuku. I’m not sure how you overlooked her dynamic confessional and presence.

      • Maritimer

        Sigh. Clearly I am on top of things today. I will pick someone else. Its hard to remember what tribes people are on when they are’t really on the show

        • BadPlayer91

          In your defense, I almost always use the poll to remember who is on what team, particularly in this season of weird invisible characters. I was also very lost without, lol

          • Maritimer

            So do I. Especially right after a swap

  • pufflehuff

    Thanks for committing to a spoiler free space! I was spoiled watching HvV (much like many people mildly curious about the show on the internet) and it really dented that season for me a bit, though the winner was still a nice surprise.

    I feel very nervous about this episode because there are a couple of people who I think might be in danger (Varner + Michaela) who it’s sort of too heartbreaking to consider that they’d leave right before the jury again. If Zeke clips Varner here, his I’m going to lather myself in blood will really make sense.

    It does feel that there are a limited number of possibilities story-wise though as there are several stories in play (Sarah and Troy, for example) which won’t really make sense unless they both reach the merge (not that Survivor isn’t sloppy sometimes) and it would be weird to see Aubry leave now just as she starts to get a story.

    My predictions are Andrea (not really sure how that could happen but I can’t bear to think of Varner leaving and her story doesn’t seem to have any legs for the next stage of the game ) and Troy (entirely wishful thinking tbh).

  • gouis

    I turned off my AdBlocker to see what ads Amazon would show me, and it’s a bunch of individual Survivor episodes and a documentary about Palin and McCain called “Game Change”

    • PurpleTally

      It’s changed whereever I look at it. On my laptop, it’s all stuff my dad/my sister/I have looked at on our shared Prime Account. On my phone, it’s shoes for some reason. And on this Chromebook I’m using at school, it’s actually “Game Changers”/Survivor related. (Also a book called “Cook Islands–Cultural Paradise.”)

      • BadPlayer91

        The other day I was showing my coworkers how crazy expensive Mary Kate & Ashley Olsen’s fashion line is the other day, and now ALL my adds are Bergdorf Goodman showing my $500 t-shirts and $2,300 bathrobe and $5,000 purses. It makes me a regular amount of confused and angry.

        • PurpleTally

          Mine is all baby stuff from my sister and weird devices that rotate your watches from my dad in Amazon ads.
          I’ll occasionally search something for a lesson plan and then my ads will be all toy dragons or fake money for a few weeks.

      • I also got the book…I wonder why.

        • PurpleTally

          I think it’s because Andy lists Cook Islands as one of his favorite seasons. As he rightly should.

          • But, I wonder if it is also due to the fact that we watched Cook Islands so recently.

    • PurpleTally

      I’m reading through the old 30 from 30 posts, because my Cooperating Teacher is teaching today, and I’m bored. On the one about the rock draw, it suggests various healing crystals and rocks.

  • EmAndScoutInBK

    Despite having had a bootlist posted on my twitter feed, I managed not to be spoiled by screaming “NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!” and Xing out quickly enough. And my memory sucks.

  • PurpleTally

    I think I might be spoiled, so I can’t participate in the prediction discussion, so I’ll just be over in my own little corner, still crying about Sandra*, and waiting for Barbara to start the Micronesia discussion.

    *I have a student who watches Survivor. We were on Spring Break last week, so this was the first time I’ve seen her since the last episode. First thing she said to me: “Miss D–, were you sad? I know she was your favorite.” (She also didn’t know who Cochran was, because she started watching 3 seasons ago, but her parents and brother were very excited. As they should be.)

    • Sorry, I got delayed because I am babysitting/watching Moonlight. The thread will be starting soon.

      • Black Dynamite

        Moonlight is an amazing movie.

    • sharculese

      There’s a little girl at my roommate’s church who loves Survivor. Her last season was Zeke, and she was so devastated when he got voted out I had to be like “tell her he’s coming back immediately. She is seven. She doesn’t care about casting spoilers.”

  • Mike Hirsch

    At some point last season, or two seasons ago, or something, people were discussing various superheroes playing Survivor, and I was just thinking that I’d love to see Quicksilver play Survivor in a season where he was the only superhero to play, because he’d be a total dick in his social game, and would get *so* pissed in team challenges where every member needs to get to a certain point to advance to the next part of the challenge. Then he’d win every individual immunity challenge but lose the season because everyone hates him.

    • BadPlayer91

      This is, incredible.

    • purplerockandy

      He’d go back and pick up all his teammates to carry them through obstacles. Because in comics, somehow having superspeed also gives you the ability to easily carry other adults while running.

      • Mike Hirsch

        I was thinking that too, but maybe production would keep him from doing that, which would only further aggravate him.

        • BadPlayer91

          All those early season ‘destroy this barrier’ challenges, you just put the Hulk at the front of the team and everyone else runs behind him.

    • Taako From Teevhii

      I don’t know if Batman would be great or terrible at Survivor, but I know he’d be fascinating. I wouldn’t want to watch Cap because “guy everyone likes” + “huge IIC threat” = “voted out before the merge.” Black Widow could probably win in a very fun way.

      • BadPlayer91

        GAWD Black Widow’s social game would be ON POINT. She could calm Bruce down and everyone would be like, “wow, if we want our camp to be not smashed, we gotta keep Black Widow.”

        Also, I feel like Batman would collect idols in droves. Like, he’s collect all of them at his camp, and then he’s get them all from the other camp, and then he’d attach them all to his belt!

        • Taako From Teevhii

          Not only that, but she’d win every IIC since they’re almost all endurance or balance/finesse.

          • Squirrel Girl wouldn’t be awful in the IC, but her social game can be hit or miss.

          • Taako From Teevhii

            I’d keep her around just for helping with camp/the shelter and opening coconuts.

          • Oh yeah, she would be perfect for that. But I can see her being like an Aubry or a Hannah in certain situations.

          • purplerockandy

            Constant debates over whether or not we could eat the squirrels.

          • Mike Hirsch

            I don’t know much about Squirrel Girl other than everyone thinks Anna Kendrick should play her, so, yeah, I’m on board with her.

          • BadPlayer91

            Also, Squirrel Girl should be able to find idols like nobodies business. Everyone is calming eating rice at camp, her included, while dozens of squirrels search to the idols. perfect.

            But, like, most super heroes should be really good at finding idols. Vision could just phase through shit till he finds it. They would probably have to find ways to like, wrap the idols in energy barriers or something to make it more difficult.

          • That’s actually not a bad idea in regards to Squirrel Girl

          • Taako From Teevhii

            I’m actually wondering, are there squirrels outside of North America and Europe? I feel like there have to be, but I also feel like there aren’t. Would Squirrel Girl’s signature ability be of any use to her in the tropics? Would she need to be cast when Survivor films in BC?

            Also, question I’ve been thinking about for a few days: Is Survivor going to/Does Survivor need to have one or two back-to-basics newbie seasons in a new location such as BC or Madagascar? Or is every newbie season going to be a casting theme like BBB, BvW, or Collars?

          • BadPlayer91

            I just assume that when she’s going somewhere that doesn’t have native Squirrels, she brings them with her. Like a giant carrier case filled with furry friends.

            Also, i’m sure a ‘back-to-basics’ kinda episode will happen eventually, but given the success they have had with casting themes, maybe not for a little while, or till some catalyst pushes it. Now i’m thinking, if not a location theme, or a casting theme, what other themes could their be? Like, considering game changer, what could be the next big sorta thematic shift or concept?

      • Mike Hirsch

        Batman would have somehow obtained detailed information about everyone he was playing against and be able to use that to his advantage.

        • BadPlayer91

          Yeah, he pregame would be one point…

      • Diego Armando

        Nightwing would destroy. He is the Batman people like.

        • Taako From Teevhii

          If we’re discussing “Batman-like heroes who aren’t dicks,” might I interest you in Martian Manhunter? He’ll never start fires at camp, but I think he’d rock pretty much everything else.

          If we’re talking “B-list heroes and lower,” how about Zatanna? She’d probably be the best around camp because you’ll never be hurt or hungry. That’s enough to win some friends and build an alliance.

          • Purplerockmatt

            Probst: “Fire is life”
            MM: “Nope! I’m outta here.”

  • Super duper fan

    For Nuku, I unfortunately think that Varner will be voted out. In the end I don’t think he’s capable of getting through his position, plus he;s challenge liability, and I don’t think people are excpecting an early merge.

    From Mana, I’ll go with Sierra.Girls from that tribe are gonna make an awesome BWB alliance, but Sierra is gonna screw this up as usual, so they’re just gonna vote her out. And by that Brad will receive Legacy Advantage, and he will be saved at the next vote thanks to this.

    20/19.Ciera (CORRECT)
    18.Malcolm (WRONG)
    17.Tai/JT (WRONG)
    16.JT (CORRECT)
    15.Brad (WRONG)
    14.Varner/ATFFGCASCSSTHFPFASDFT (TBA)
    13.(TBA)
    12.(TBA)
    11.(TBA)
    10.(TBA)
    9.(TBA)
    8.(TBA)
    7.(TBA)
    6.(TBA)
    5.(TBA)
    4.(TBA)
    3.(TBA)
    2.(TBA)
    1.(TBA)

    Pre-season winner pick: Hali (TBA)
    Mid-season winner pick: (TBA)

    • Diego Armando

      I hope you are right on Mana.

      • Super duper fan

        Don’t we all.

  • BadPlayer91

    My new goal will be to assume the worst. The only exception to this will be Michaela, because she is my Bae, and she is my bae. So thus:

    Mana: Cirie
    They all target Cirie because she’s an enjoyable character and big threat and literally no person likes fun, enjoyable characters. Troy tips off Brad and Brad is like “okay, that’s great, I hate fun”

    Nuku: Varner
    Zeke and Varner form the gay alliance we all want, and they try to convince everyone to vote Ozzy. But then after a lot of infighting everyone decides the best option is to smash Varner’s hopes and dreams (and rob us of the opportunity to name that gay alliance). Maybe it gets a bit more complicated and Tai uses an idol to protect Ozzy. I could easily see Tai deciding he is sorry he pretended to target Ozzy, and thus now they are best buds and he has to protect him. I will admit, the idea of Tai protecting Ozzy and Ozzy being all butt-hurt about his manliness is a joy.

    Should the gay alliance become a thing, i’d like to recomend the name: The Queen’s Queens, in honor of Sandra

    • Taako From Teevhii

      Tai and Zeke voted out Sandra. They don’t deserve to have Sandra referenced in their alliance name. However, the only thing I can come up with the a pun on 3 Musketeers + queer, but it kinda doesn’t work because queer as a noun is icky.

      • BadPlayer91

        I guess i haven’t really been including Tai in the alliance, which just means it’s just two people, and not really an alliance. My hope would be, Zeke and Varner band together, they pull other people in, but are always at the helm of the ship, bouncing targets off each other. Tai can come, but he isn’t the core.

        I don’t begrudge Zeke like i do the rest, largely because he was so flattering of Sandra in his confessionals. He basically pointed out that she was clearly the best player out there, and that it’s his respect for her skills and the danger she presents that made him so confident they needed to get rid of her.

        I mean, even Ozzy, the king of “you don’t deserve to be here” sounded pretty respectful of Sandra as someone they needed to eliminate because she’s so dangerous. If you are gonna get the boot, you can’t ask for better than being told you’re too amazing at the game to be kept around, and then a round of applause.

  • Super duper fan
  • Taako From Teevhii

    I’m not happy about it, but we need to make sure we have the blandest cast heading into the merge. I think we’re allowed to be excited about three players tops at that point. So while it may pain me, my predictions are

    Seventh boot: Varner or Aubry

    Varner looks like an obvious boot. Maybe too obvious, but if Sandra can’t defy the odds at Nuku, I doubt Varner can. And with regard to Aubry, a wise woman once said that sometimes the person in the middle of the road gets runs over. I think either Aubry tries to play both sides and gets burned or she goes wholeheartedly over to OG Nuku and gets idoled out by Troy.

    First or Second boot: Tony or Cirie (+1)
    Third boot: Cirie
    Fourth boot: Hali, Cirie, or JT
    Fifth boot: Hali, Ozzy, or JT (+1)
    Sixth boot: Sarah
    Pre-season winner: SDT
    Score: 2

  • If we can’t talk about tomorrow’s episode, why not talk about Micronesia? Yes, it’s that time…the time for the Micronesia Rewatch Thread. For today’s thread, you should watch from Eliza to Erik aka The Reign of the Black Widows Brigade
    Discussion Questions:
    1) Do you buy into the theory that Production punished James, Alexis, and Erik for reportedly sneaking into their camp?
    2) Up to this point, has Amanda really played a better game than Parvati?
    3) Did Cirie make the right move by siding with the fans in the Alexis boot at this point?
    4) What is your favorite blindside?
    5) If you had to assign credit to one of the BWB for the Erik blindside and only one, who would you give credit to?
    6) (This is a fun question) What has been your favorite moment of the cast not knowing Survivor? Some options include Cirie having to explain to Amanda what the non Final 4 tiebreaker is and both Parvati and Alexis not knowing the term “medevac”.

    • Taako From Teevhii

      5) Based on only my memory of Micronesia (I’m not watching along), Cirie. IIRC, she developed the idea of Erik giving over immunity and it was the conversation with her that put him over the edge on it.

      • PurpleTally

        That is 100% correct.

        • giorgos

          Yep. That’s why there’s no point in giving the credit for Erik’s boot to the one of the 4 that “did the most”. Parvati grabs Cirie’s brainstorming idea and lays a plan. Cirie then coaches Amanda and Natalie to play their roles to perfection and both girls do. The whole thing should have never been possible.

      • sharculese

        Cirie suggests it but in a “ha ha, wouldn’t it be crazy” way. It’s Parvati who gets the idea that it could actually work going.

    • purplerockandy

      1. No
      2. No
      3. Yes (because we have no proof that she knew about Amanda’s idol.
      4. Ozzy is the only one that matters. The rest is the Survivor equivalent of when NBA players block the shots of kids at their basketball camps (which is admittedly hilarious every time, but not exactly impressive).
      5. Cirie.
      6. Jason thinking a fucking stick would be an idol.

      • First of all, your response to 6 is pretty fun.
        Also, I am looking forward to seeing your discussion about why Parvati is an overrated winner.

        • Purple Rock Emma

          I am not.

          • PurpleTally

            I am coming out of this rewatch so conflicted on Parvati. I feel like my reasons for thinking she was a great winner before were skewed in my memory, but I’m discovering more subtle parts of her game that I had overlooked. I don’t think you can fault her for having a good alliance. Like, that’s one of the things that makes a good winner. But I will save this for next week.

          • purplerockandy

            It is important to note that for me, the term “overrated” means exactly that – “rated more highly on average than is appropriate”. It does not necessarily mean “bad”. In fact, it rarely means “bad”, because it’s usually just “thing that is good that people mistakenly believe is great”.

          • PurpleTally

            Oh, then, yeah. 100% overrated.

    • Black Dynamite

      1. No
      2. No
      3. Yes
      4. Ozzy, though the Erik one is a better episode despite what Andy thinks.
      5. Cirie
      6. Fucking stick (I did steal this answer from Andy).

    • Maritimer

      4) Favourite blindside is Ozzy, because seeing arrogance punished is funny. I have a hard time calling Erik a blindside, because he knew it might be coming
      6) If I can go outside these episodes, Joel being scared by math (aka Mikey B splitting the vote, which should be understood by Fans at this point) is hilarious

      • Black Dynamite

        The reaction to splitting votes was hilarious.

      • You absolutely can go outside of these episodes. The ones I mentioned were just little observations that I picked up on and pointed them out to @purpletally:disqus as we watched, so she could see them.

        • StormofCuteness

          Weren’t we supposed to watch episodes 9-12 this week? I’m super confused because the questions and most answers seem to include episode 13…and I’m sad because I was so looking forward to watching it again.

          • PurpleTally

            It is possible we watched ahead because we got excited, but I can’t remember what the schedule was.

          • I believe that we discussed in our GChats to include Erik’s boot here because it is the complete arc of the BWB.

          • StormofCuteness

            Umm, GChats?

          • PurpleTally

            Until a few months ago, I was not allowed to discuss Survivor anywhere but my GChats with Barbara Anderson because spoilers. (We have quite a record of my very, very bad picks in our GChat archive.) We were discussing how to break up the episodes before she posted the breakdown here. I think we did come to that conclusion, because the BWB brilliance is best experienced in one marathon session of awesome.

          • StormofCuteness

            Darn. I literally was like…it’d be cheating to watch it now. It’s possible I take this too seriously. *duh*

          • PurpleTally

            No! Go watch it! Enjoy! Revel in the brilliance and the stupidity all wrapped up into one amazing package!

          • You have a quite few winner and merge boot picks in your history as well. Nothing tops your SJDS picks where you had four of the final 6.

          • PurpleTally

            Yeah, that was one of my better picks. But also so much of that cast was boring so it was a bit easier. It was the opposite method of what I used for my GC picks.

          • Tally and I watch most if not all of that week’s episode over Google Chat.

          • BadPlayer91

            Yeah, when I checked back Erik’s boot was included. This week was Episodes 9-13, 5 total.

          • StormofCuteness

            I blame my menopause memory fog. *shifty eyes*

    • PurpleTally

      2) I think Parvati is pulling a lot of the strings and Amanda is getting credit within the season, which is ironic, because I feel like, in my own mind, I give Parv credit for things Amanda (and/or Cirie and Natalie) did. Because Parv had literally ZERO to do with the Erik thing, and that’s the move her Alliance is most famous for. But she gets full points for Ozzy.
      And then Amanda also pulls off the BRILLIANT “I didn’t find the idol at Exile” thing, proving she is a much better actor than Ozzy, and saves herself. That move is underrated. She pulled that off really well. And it seems like, while Parvati knew the idol was on the beach, she doesn’t know that Amanda got it, based on the way she acts at Tribal, which is another subtle part of this that I give Amanda credit for.
      It’s interesting that Amanda is seen as the biggest social threat, because we see a lot of clear evidence that Parvati and Cirie are better socially. Perhaps Parv is a bit separated from the tribe outside of her alliance, but the fact that she puts Amanda in an alliance without her consent AND THEN VOTES OUT HER BOYFRIEND and STILL manages to be Amanda’s closest ally in the game is AMAZING. Then, we see Cirie get just about every question correct in the survey challenge (followed by the criminally short loved ones scene–need more HB!), proving how well she knows what people are thinking.

      3) Cirie was basically playing both sides there. She’s a swing vote, and she needs to keep everyone calm. Cirie never gets voted out for pissing someone off. She’s voted out because everyone likes her and she’s a threat. I think it’s hard to say she made the wrong move.

      4) Erik. BEAUTIFUL THING OF PERFECTION.

      5) Amanda comes up with the talking points, Natalie starts the ball rolling with Erik, Parvati sits there and looks pretty. But it’s Cirie 100%. She’s the one who comes up with the idea. She helps Amanda come up with the talking points. And then after Natalie has her initial conversation with Erik, Cirie is the one who really sells it. Cirie, Cirie, Cirie.

      6) That “do you know the Survivor seasons” challenge was hilarious. I mean, more than one person gets the “When did someone fall in a fire?” question wrong. That was when everyone in the country was watching Survivor. Even if you weren’t watching, you would get that from pop culture osmosis. Like, COME ON.

      Okay, done with my Micronesia novel.

      • Black Dynamite

        I feel like Cirie doesn’t get enough credit for the Ozzy boot. She seemed to set the plan in motion while its frames as Parvati’s story. This was the moment where I was confident about who was winning the season.

        • PurpleTally

          Cirie is definitely a driving force in that Ozzy boot, but for the sake of that question, I was just comparing Amanda and Parvati. I mean, the real answer to that question is: Cirie played a better game than both of them, why are we talking about Amanda and Parvati.

          • Black Dynamite

            Absolutely agree that Parvati played better than Amanda at this point. I will say that the best of Amanda can be found in the episode where she play the idol. That tribal performance was brilliant and her burying Erik is a nice foreshadowing for what would soon happen. I also think that conversation she had with Cirie where she told Cirie that she didn’t have to vote with her was really well done. In terms of comparison, Amanda may not have played as good as Cirie or Parvati but she was really good in Micronesia and good at Survivor, even with that one defining flaw.

          • Max_Jets

            I don’t necessarily agree that Cirie played better than Parvati. Parvati had a close alliance with the majority of the merge cast and is responsible for bringing in Alexis and Natalie which is huge. Cirie is the mastermind, but Parvati brings all the pieces together.

          • PurpleTally

            It depends on what you think is the most impressive. Cirie is never a target, despite being somewhat of a challenge liability and a social and strategic threat. And she has the ideas for most of the #BigMoves this season. Parvati is almost consistently on top, maintaining from very early in the game, a majority alliance, despite being swapped and voting out one of her initial allies. Both are very difficult to do. I just give Cirie the edge for the #BigMoves, but Parvati’s game is incredibly impressive, as well. They’re both two of the best Survivor players of all time. They both deserve the credit. And they’re both better than Amanda, though I think her game in Micronesia is underrated. Some of the things Amanda does this season would be the biggest moves in a lesser season. The fact that there is not one, but TWO other people ahead of her for best player this season says a lot for Micronesia.

          • Max_Jets

            I think I tend to value holding an alliance together over decision making but there’s an argument for either. Both players are great though and the way Cirie improves her position with every move is incredible.

      • BadPlayer91

        And interesting thing I thought about while reading your 5. This is one of the first seasons i’ve seen where strategy isn’t just discussed, but carefully planned and executed. Exactly like you said, they make TALKING POINTS for convincing Erik. They don’t just have these vague ideas, but they basically create small presentations for how to convince people of the things they want. It’s fascinating to see something so often hush-hush-ed played out in the open. Maybe that’s because the non-BWB players are too dumb to come break up their pow-wows, but it’s still enjoyable.

        • PurpleTally

          That’s why it can be difficult to assign the title of “Best Player of the Season” because so many of the decisions were made collaboratively and carried out by the best strategic alliance in the show’s history. It’s a matter of which of the moves you value the most highly and the other elements of their gameplay. Because they work together a lot, and they work together well this season.

          • Maritimer

            And I think it comes down to the following: the whole cast is good. There was no goat to drag along post-merge. Most of the Final 10 are social and/or strategic threats (excluding Jason) who could win a FTC. Therefore, you have to make an alliance with other good players so a whole lot of strategy happens and happens collaboratively. The moves are so good because they were developed together by good players, rather than by one person herding their goats, somewhat similar to Cambodia and the total opposite of what I expect post-merge GC

          • Don’t forget about Eliza as an extremely unlikelypossible winner..

          • Maritimer

            True. Strategic threat probably, but not a likely FTC winner. Unless she somehow gets there with Jason

          • Except there was no way she was getting any further unless the effing stick turned out to be a legitimate idol because Parv wanted her out ASAP.

          • Black Dynamite

            It’s part of why I love the Erik boot so much. Cirie comes up with this plan but all the roles are played so perfectly. You rarely see such a play made by so many people. BWB 4 life.

    • BadPlayer91

      1. No idea about
      2. I’d say no as well. I mean, she hasn’t played terrible, but I think Parvati and Cirie’s moves outshine Amandas. The idol play and convincing them she didn’t have it is wonderful though.
      3. She played it the best she could. She told Amanda she didn’t want to vote against her, but she played with the numbers, which is more often the most important. In the end, she can come back to whoever does survive and say she was with them.
      4. I’m going to go Erik. I’d agree, its not a traditional blindside, and if I had to be more strict to the term i’d say Ozzy, but i think the Erik move is great strategy and great TV. I know that many people knock it as ‘the stupidity of Erik’ but I think there is a moment of inspiration from Cirie here. I believe most players would have gone into that situation defeated, confident there was nothing to be done. Instead, Cirie says, what if we convince him to do the unthinkable? It isn’t just the execution, it’s also the inspiration to think outside the box and propose something most would never have thought of.
      5. Cirie. Her idea, and her execution made it work. i would go further to say, up to this point I think Cirie has played an equal or better game to Parvati.

      • Black Dynamite

        I would definitely say that at this point she played a better game that Parvati.

    • Black Dynamite

      I want to add that it would be tougher to find a longer stretch of excellent Survivor episodes than It’s just a fucking stick to Erik’s boot. That Micronesia post merge is so strong.

      • StormofCuteness

        I completely agree with this!

    • purplerockandy

      We are now at the point of the season when a full five players have been removed due to injury or quitting (albeit two of those quits at least had the formality of tribal council):
      -Fairplay
      -Penner
      -Kathy
      -Chet
      -James

      That’s 25% of the season’s cast just erased from the board without the other contestants having to worry about doing it themselves. BEST SEASON EVER!!!

      • This season just feels brutal with the sheer amount of injuries.

      • Super duper fan
      • purplerockandy

        And I should add: I’m not some crazy who thinks that James’ medevac changed the outcome of the season much, if at all. But it’s a data point and another freebie.

        Maybe he’s sent to Exile Island and gets a clue and an idol? Maybe just having to go to Tribal Council to vote him out causes someone to say something stupid that causes friction? Again, most likely is that it means nothing, but as one of five eliminations? It adds up.

        • I think the thing that James changes is a F3 to a F2. After all, I have mentioned that I think Penner and Kathy’s medevacs made the jury smaller by two.

          • purplerockandy

            Well then, that changes EVERYTHING.

            If that’s the case, the James’ elimination might be the luckiest break Parvati gets all season. Luckiest winner ever.

          • Man, my sarcasm radar is going OFF.

          • purplerockandy

            It’s broken. Because there was no sarcasm. Parvati not having to face Cirie in the finals (which is what all of Parvati’s maneuvers was leading to) is one of the luckiest breaks anyone has ever gotten in Survivor. If that’s because of James scraping his finger? Geez.

          • PurpleTally

            So, that answers number 1: the person who really got punished for James, Erik, and Alexis sneaking into base camp was Cirie.

          • StormofCuteness

            Can you tell me more about this whole sneaking into production thing? I’m clueless.

          • PurpleTally

            @disqus_GpYJ355BVM:disqus will have to fill you in. I was only aware of this through her.

          • Supposedly, James, Alexis, and Erik got busted sneaking into Production. While running away, both James and Alexis got injured (which is why we magically have no footage of either of their injuries and Alexis has that weird “I was walking by myself at night” story). The first half of the story has almost been confirmed, but the second half is that they “punished” Alexis and Erik for this. First of all, they changed the idol location from Exile Island to Camp so Amanda could find it and idol out Alexis. Then, they basically put on the pressure on Erik to give up his immunity.

          • purplerockandy

            They were so pissed by this that they brought James and Erik back on the show.

          • That’s where the “conspiracy” falls apart.

          • purplerockandy

            I should also note that my answer to “what do you think of the fan conspiracy that…” is probably always going to be “it’s stupid”.

          • Oh, I knew that a LONG LONG LONG time ago.

          • To counter this: Weasel Woo did much worse and got brought back.

          • StormofCuteness

            Weasel Woo? Why do you know all the things I’ve never heard of? I am clearly not even the most basic of fans!

          • So, remember how basically everyone on Cagayan called Woo “Weasel Woo” ?

          • StormofCuteness

            Yes!

          • That is because (reportedly) Woo not only went into the Production Camp to steal food, but he also drank water out of a cameraman’s Camelback and stole other castaways’s medicine. No one is allowed to talk about it openly.

          • StormofCuteness

            What the ever-loving fuck? Jesus, stealing people’s medicine? That is some seriously evil shit.

            Oops, sorry for all the cussing.

          • PurpleTally

            I had heard the water stuff, I think. But I don’t remember hearing about the meds. I also thought I saw something about him eavesdropping on confessionals. But I can’t remember the source, so that could be way off.

          • I did a bad job towards the end of our rewatch of being a Gossip Queen

          • PurpleTally

            At that point, we were just pushing through to get to the end. Also, Weasel Woo isn’t something explicitly mentioned in the season that would have come up, I don’t think.

          • Right, because you did like him.

          • PurpleTally

            Yes. He contributes next to nothing, but he’s very nice to look at.

          • He gave Tony the win.

          • purplerockandy

            Not really a counter. It shows that production isn’t going to enforce game punishments for that kind of behaviour.

          • Alycia Swift

            Yes. That’s my point. If Erik were punished, why would he come back later even if invited?

          • Ms. Sweaterfan

            Also Erik was such a whiner after Caramoan that I can’t believe he would have gone along with a conspiracy to cover up producer meddling in his first season.

          • StormofCuteness

            Aha, this does explain why we never saw the injuries happen…I mean this show loves to gross out with people’s pain so it does seem suspicious that we didn’t see it. The punishing part doesn’t ring true though.

          • That’s why I think Production pushed James’s medevac by a day-they were trying to figure out what the endgame schedule would look like as well as the fact that the loved ones visit was the next day.

          • Assistant Dragon Slayer

            One of the most interesting discussions in any chapter of TEOS I’ve listened to is when Rob and Josh run through every possible combination of the final four players in both F2s and F3s, and how they fare given the composition of the resulting juries. We can break it down in detail next week, but the upshot is that in their opinion, there’s virtually no timeline in which Cirie wins.

          • purplerockandy

            I’ve heard people discuss that theory (not Rob and Josh but others). I don’t agree with it.

            At the very least, we don’t know. It is another instance where unusual things converge to change potential outcomes of this season. Also, I like Cirie’s chances in a talking competition vs Amanda and Parvati (who was also pretty shitty at FTC. Just not as shitty as Amanda).

          • Assistant Dragon Slayer

            If I have time I’m going to listen to that part of TEOS again and put a spreadsheet up on Google Docs so that we can discuss it next week; it’s actually pretty confusing when you’re just listening.

            I’m of two minds–their basic conclusion is that very few of the jury votes are actually live, and they make a pretty convincing case. Eliza’s vote is obviously up for grabs, but Amanda and Parvati both have at least two votes on lock in any timeline (Ozzy and Erik for Amanda, Natalie and Alexis for Parvati), so in an F3 Cirie has to run the table and in an F2 she’s facing a huge uphill climb.

            On the other hand, as you say, Cirie should be able to talk circles around either of them. Plus, while Amanda was bad at FTC, it’s actually the next-to-last tribal that was her truly catastrophic performance. The jury is visibly disgusted with her. So if it’s an F3 that doesn’t happen and maybe her chances are actually better than in the real timeline (where, remember, she was one vote short of a tie).

          • Super duper fan

            Fun fact: Eliza was actually considering voting for Amanda, cause she was wondering what will happen in case of a tie, but she really didn’t want her to win so she decided not to.

          • purplerockandy

            Yeah, Amanda lost votes when she voted out Cirie, which doesn’t happen in this timeline. Also, I’m not as convinced that Erik and Alexis are locks for not-Cirie. Thinking that is based on watching a season in which Cirie was not edited to be the winner.

          • Super duper fan

            For what it’s worth, Erik said in Twitter that he was 100% going to vote for Cirie (it’s after that season, so it may be a revisionist history, but still).

          • purplerockandy

            It does make sense that fanboy Erik might have favoured Cirie from Panama over Amanda from a few episodes of China. Also, he took Amanda’s betrayal harder (but had no relationship with Parvati).

      • BadPlayer91

        I agree that this is a significant point, but it doesn’t ruin the season for me. If i was trying to argue that this was the best season, or that it had the best winner, this would be a very big talking point. And claiming this is the best winner given she didn’t have to beat 1/4 the cast would be pretty difficult, lol.

        But, as a first time viewer, I’m still really enjoying the season, and I agree that the BWB arc is one of the most enjoyable and satisfying i’ve seen in Survivor. So, I guess i’m saying, I understand the season has its issues and limitations, but I don’t knock some of the better strategy and content in it, simply because those people benefited from others going home.

        • purplerockandy

          This goes back to me “overrated does not equal bad” discussion.

          Micronesia is routinely discussed as a top 3 season. I think it has enough limitations to make that consensus ridiculous. It’s still pretty good though.

          • BadPlayer91

            Definitely. This is my first watch-through, so i’m still figuring out where it lands for me.

            I think this season is also a big talking point for ‘Best Season’ vs. ‘Favorite Season’. So often, I think people lump the two together where they are not necessarily the same thing. Someone can really like a season, but accept that it wasn’t a great round of survivor. Similarly, someone can watch a season that is understood to be the highest quality survivor, but not enjoy it as much. For me, I love Koah Rong, but that’s because it was my first season. In spite of really liking it, I understand why it isn’t one of the best seasons of Survivor.

            Obviously, the hope would be that the best season is also the favorite season, and though I haven’t gotten to it yet, everything i’ve heard seems to point to HvV as perhaps the best combination of high quality survivor with high quality entertainment. But, Micronesia seems like a good example of the opposite. A really enjoyable season, with some amazing strategy, but also some issues that hold it back. Maybe a top 3 favorite season, but that doesn’t mean a top 3 best season.

          • Purplerockmatt

            This was similar to the point I made to Andy way way back in the day when I defended it. Micronesia is not among the best seasons of Survivor as a game, but as a tv show? Micronesia is aces. It is very funny, and while yes you have all-stars dunking on schmucks, dunks are fucking awesome! Who doesn’t love to watch awesome dunks? So as a tv show Micronesia is peak Survivor, but as a game, it falls short of the best seasons

          • purplerockandy

            Matt’s argument was the one I’ve found most convincing: I complained that it was like watching the Harlem Globetrotters humiliate the Washington Generals, and he was all “who doesn’t love watching the Harlem Globetrotters humiliate the Washington Generals?!?”

            Had to concede on that one.

          • Purplerockmatt

            Seriously, who doesn’t love watching the Harlem Globetrotters humiliate the Washington Generals?

          • PurpleTally

            Now I really want a compilation of the best moments of dumb people getting destroyed in Micronesia set to the Harlem Globetrotters theme music.

          • You mean Sweet Georgia Brown.

          • PurpleTally

            Yeah, sure. The only reason I know they have a song is because of an episode of Scrubs, so I was really just stretching my knowledge for that comment.

          • Oh my gosh….

          • Alycia Swift

            I got to see them live once. I forget why. And I’m not a particular basketball fan.

          • Max_Jets

            I think even some of the best seasons have big limitations. Cagayan has the super idol, which is found by the biggest power player and takes a lot of suspense out of the episodes leading to the finale. Pearl Islands has one of the dumbest twists in the show, a near invisible contestant in 4th place, and the uncomfortable first quit. Amazon has a whole lot of uncomfortable comments and (to a lot of people) an unsatisfying finish. If you love the rest of the season enough, you aren’t going to be as focused on these things. Micronesia has been ousted from my personal top 5 (thanks to Kaoh Rong, another season with its own limitations), but I think there’s enough there to understand why it gets so much love.

    • StormofCuteness

      Again, not reading from others first so as to not be influenced.

      1. What??! Tell me more.
      2. Nope. Parvati has clearly been the one utilizing her wits and social game to make huge plays and Amanda, while a good player, hasn’t done nearly enough (but yeah, finding that idol helps a lot).
      3. Cirie’s claim of being between a (purple) rock and a hard place was on point. I think she, given what she knew, made the right choice. Plus, it’s not like Parvati and Amanda told her about the idol, thus putting her at the bottom of that alliance.
      4. I love them all! I just finished episode 12, and the way Amanda played that tribal council was brilliant. Her glee and the glee of the jury was delightful. Though it exposed a lot!
      5. Ummm, isn’t that in next week’s episodes?? Let’s not get ahead of ourselves, I’m having too much fun.
      6. How did I miss P and A not knowing medevac? I did have to laugh at Cirie explaining the tiebreaker though. She sure does make it easy for production.

      • Erik’s boot was the last episode for this week’s bunch. Next week is the finale and the reunion.

        • StormofCuteness

          I could have sworn we were told to watch 4 episodes a week. Ah well, sucks for me.

          • Sorry about the confusion. We just wanted to make sure that each week had a bit of an important arc or story going on.

      • Go back and watch the James/Alexis boot and you will hear it quite a bit.

    • Ms. Sweaterfan

      1) I’ve never really bought this story. Or, more specifically, I don’t believe that their eliminations were at all tied to their sneaking into the production camp. If they did get punished I feel like it was probably something small (maybe their prize money got docked or something?) But I can’t see the show taking the risk of actually faking the boot order just to punish a player for a transgression as seemingly minor as this. It just seems like the producers/CBS would have a lot more to lose by faking the three eliminations than they would for just letting the prank slide and allowing the game to play out naturally. It’s pretty clear that they’re not keen at all on kicking people out of the game. I would say the closest thing we’ve ever seen to someone actually being kicked off the show was Brandon Hantz, but even then it was possible for Jeff to more or less keep the decision within the hands of the other players. I remember a while ago something that appeared to be the official rules of playing Survivor showed up (on Reality Blurred, I think?) and there was a ton of stuff in there that seems like we’ve seen it happen – like stealing or destroying other players’ property – and yet we’ve never actually seen anyone punished over it. I think that one of the strengths of Survivor as a show and as a game is that it’s allowed to play out pretty organically as its own little artificial society. It probably also helps that no one has truly lost it out there in a way that Jeff and the other players and crew haven’t been able to handle. I remember listening to a Survivor Historians where they talked about things that they’re amazed have never happened on Survivor before, and their consensus answer was a fist fight, and when you think about it, it’s actually a really good point. In the conditions they put those cast members in, it’s amazing that they hold it together as much as they do. Anyway, I’ve gone way off on a tangent 🙂

    • Alycia Swift

      I have not watched but I just finished listening to the Historians last week so I feel I can answer some of these questions.

      1. No. Why invite them back (except Alexis though wasn’t she in the mix recently)?
      2. No.
      3. I agree with Ms. Sweaterfan.
      4. Amanda’s. But a lot of what they were claiming were blindsides overall were not. Amanda’s was. Erik’s was.
      5. Cirie. She thought of the idea. Yes, the others guilted Erik but Cirie thought of it.
      6. This I do not remember but it is funny.

      • Wrong Alexis.

        • Alycia Swift

          No, actually both were in the mix at some point recently.

    • Kemper Boyd

      You missed the most important question.
      What the fuck is on Natalie’s neck?
      https://31.media.tumblr.com/93953c379cd21e421aaf845bfe08fd18/tumblr_inline_o4twtzVT1x1u54bpj_500.gif

      • Alycia Swift

        Garlic. To ward off vampires.

      • I just assumed it was something off of treemail.

  • Ms. Sweaterfan

    Even though I personally haven’t been spoiled on the boot order, trying to call the next elimination feels a little bit pointless this time around. However, I am ready to make one significant prediction right now:
    This will be the worst episode of the season so far.

    And I’m not ~just~ saying that because we lost Sandra (although I am still in mourning). I just think that we have no more ongoing story lines that are remotely compelling at this point. Ozzy vs. Cirie was maybe the closest thing we had, and they’ve been separated by the swap. Really the only continuing threads they could possibly follow are Tai’s strategic incompetence and the Brad/FFSDT/Troyzan alliance, right? Blech.

    If anything, I would assume some stories are going to have to start essentially from scratch next week, which will probably make the episode feel stodgy and tedious. Best case scenario, this is the beginning of Aubry’s rise to prominence in the edit, but I’m not holding my breath.

  • Ms. Sweaterfan

    Random question: does the Amazon thing go all the way to the 30th or should I be trying to get my purchases in sooner?

    • purplerockandy

      Probably?

      • Ms. Sweaterfan

        Good because I have lots of miscellaneous and overpriced gear to buy 😀

      • DrVanNostrand

        Do you only benefit if I buy the item in the ad, or can I click and then search for what I really want? It’s showing a bunch of things I searched for recently, but not the ones I actually decided to buy. I could buy those things through your regular link instead, but if you get more from me starting at the ad, I can do that.

        • purplerockandy

          You should be able to click the link, then search from there. It’d be pretty crazy if it was limited to items randomly selected due to algorithms.

  • Diego Armando

    I will say Varner on his tribe, since I don’t want it to be him and have only correctly guessed one thing the season (Ciera boot) (I think Ozzy may actually go home).

    For Brad’s tribe, it will be either Cirie or Michaela. I will say Michaela since the show has established that she and Aubry don’t get along and I think Aub will jump ship.

    • Taako From Teevhii

      I was leaning towards predicting a Cirie or Michaela boot because, like, TWO women of color post-merge?

  • Violina23

    Varner (he’s getting a very quiet edit — he’s there, and fun, but not strategic).

    I agree with Andy re: Michaela as well. I think Aubry’s going to have a crappy exit (idoled or rocked out), but I don’t think her story is told yet.

    • Ms. Sweaterfan

      So I got bored and read the Edgic article on Inside Survivor last week and Jeff’s edgic rating (or whatever they’re called?) was exactly the same for the first 5 episodes in a row, which is apparently pretty unprecedented. In case anyone is curious it was MOR3, the beige-est of all categories probably.

      • PurpleTally

        It’s difficult to get consistent coverage in a season without some CP or OTT edits. Varner is playing a solid game, but maybe not a spectacular one. I can see him being UTR if he wasn’t at basically every tribal, but he’s been in enough of the action to be present.

        • Ms. Sweaterfan

          I agree, and I almost feel like the season is going to have to reboot itself now that almost all of the big personalities are gone… I really don’t want Tai and Debbie to end up carrying the narrative weight for the rest of the time :/

          • Violina23

            Would you prefer Troyzan and FFGCSDT?

            Oh god, this season is doomed, isn’t it?

          • pufflehuff

            There are some signs of doom, for sure, not least that because of unfinished storytelling, it’s pretty likely that Sarah/Troy + Brad/Debbie make the merge, so probably this’ll be another week where we don’t lose a dud (possibly FFSDT, but that seems unlikely.) I quite like the Inside Survivor articles – I don’t care for the ratings or all the trying to pick a winner of Edgic, but I am interested in how stories get told over the season.

            Agree that this season is pretty weird because Sandra’s arc was so dominant (and, in many ways, thank God because what a pleasure that arc was, even if it was too short) so this week will see some new beginnings. There are some stories that I have interest in that started to develop let week – Aubry’s underdog path, the emergence of Zeke as a strategic force, Varner + Zeke’s bonding – and while some of these are likely short term (I could even see Zeke going next, for example) likely some will try to fill the large holes in this season now.

            I haven’t given up hope. I’m still interested to see when Hali will pull out her cobra and I’m sorta curious about Sarah and remain hopeful that Aubry/Cirie/Michaela/Zeke/Varner can pull out some fireworks for the merge.

            That said if Cirie goes this week, I’ll just be abandoning silver linings and crying clouds of dooooom.

          • Super duper fan

            I don’t think that Cirie will go home today (tomorrow for me), her story feels as it is put on hold (she did get a story first 2 episodes, and there isn’t any indication that it’s ending, at least for now).

  • the sky is falling
    • Super duper fan

      You’re a wizard

    • Saturday Night Palsy

      Shoot. I hope I didn’t die over next summer.

  • Side Character

    Not seeing “FUCK. YO. SPOILERS.” at the end of this page made me a little sad. You’d think with the spoilers going around this week that it would be even more necessary than before to have it there.

  • Ethan Kyle

    Whelp probably a good thing theres no pole since I was spoiled (and am more pissed than Debbie about it)

  • DrVanNostrand

    I’m so not spoiled, I don’t even watch ‘next week on Survivor’. And now that football season is over, I am even immune to commercials. So I pick Varner. I hope it’s not him. I hope it’s not Aubry.

  • the sky is falling

    Random thought, as individual episodes this season is amazing. in a world where we had never met these people before this would be a top 10 season.
    I’m afraid that the awesome pre season hype posts from purple rock over hyped us this time.

    • Ms. Sweaterfan

      I don’t blame Purple Rock in particular – we were all on the same hype train leading up to the premiere. I just think that this season is what happens when you try and make an all stars season out of half HvV quality superstars and half, maybe, Caramoan quality returners (?) and then the dud characters take over :/
      The editors must have been in a really tough spot – bury the superstars in the edit and devote all the screen time to the “who?” characters that make it far, or bury the inevitable finalists a bit early on so that the viewers get at least some enjoyment out of Tony, Malcolm, Sandra, etc. I guess I’ll try to reserve judgment until the second half has played out some, but right now I feel a little lost in the edit because of the way things have unfolded.

  • Super duper fan

    For those interested, just a few minutes ago first round of the bracket on CBS has just ended, and here are the results:
    Cirie beat Tina, Stephenie beat T-Bird, Kim beat Denise, Wentworth beat Michaela, Ozzy beat Tom (ugh),
    Rupert beat Yul (UGH), Malcolm beat Jeremy, Adam beat Mike, Parvati beat Jerri, Sandra beat Natalie B, Natalie A beat Abi, Kass beat Ciera, Rob M beat Johny F, Rob C beat Shane, Tony beat Rodney and Tyson beat Pete Y.

    I don’t think there are any shockers here, besides maybe the close ones where anyone could’ve won. But now there are some actually pretty hard ones, and the match-ups are:
    Cirie vs. Stephenie
    Kim vs. Wentworth
    Ozzy vs. Rupert (why)
    Malcolm vs. Adam
    Parvati vs. Sandra (y u do dis 2 me)
    Natalie A vs. Kass
    Rob M vs. Rob C
    Tony vs. Tyson.

    • Max_Jets

      That second half is pretty rough. I’d go Cirie, Kim, Abstain, Malcolm, ……..Sandra?, Kass, Rob C, Tony. Kass vs Nat A is probably the toughest for me because Natalie is my favorite winner overall, but Kass is perfect for the category.

      • Super duper fan

        I mostly voted the same, the differences for me are that I voted for Natalie A, Adam (I’m self proclamed Adam super duper fan on this site, so I wanna do my job properly, and he won’t win against Malcolm anyway), and I voted for Ozzy just because Rupert’s win hurt me more.

        • Max_Jets

          Rupert vs Ozzy is tough because I would rank them as Rupert 1.0 > all appearances of Ozzy > later appearances of Rupert. I might have to give it to Ozzy for annoying me less.

          • Super duper fan

            You’re spot on.

    • Maritimer
      • Super duper fan

        We have to unite to take down that monster which name is Rupert!

    • I am a little shocked with the Adam/Mike matchup, but it makes sense.

      • Super duper fan

        I was happily surprised with that one, cause I did think that Mike could’ve won it. It was probably the most evenly matched duel in the 1st round in my opinion. But I’m really happy with the end result.

      • Alycia Swift

        Shocked as well. But it might be recency bias and the season Mike was on.

      • I am too, though that was the matchup I was least excited about.

    • Alycia Swift

      Rob M v. Rob C – sigh.
      Natalie A v. Kass – Two hilarious women. Gonna be hard. This one is the hardest for me.
      Parvati v. Sandra – Gotta go with Queen Stays Queen.
      The rest are not particularly hard.

  • PurpleTally

    Guess who managed to get the PRP site blocked on her school district’s WiFi…

    Yeah. Really hope that isn’t traced back to me while I’m trying to get a job.

    • Super duper fan

      How did that person managed to do that? Do you know him/her?

      • PurpleTally

        I mean, I’m not the only one here from Atlanta. But hypothetically someone may have been discussing Micronesia in the chat during the school day.

    • Sylvisual

      Ken and Cochran GIFs are clearly against APS rules.

    • We’ll have to set up a mirror so you can still get to it. Or get you a VPN.

      • PurpleTally

        Haha. I can just use my phone to go on or as a mobile Hotspot. Just a bigger pain in the butt. Or I can, you know, pay attention to my students.

  • corndogshuffle

    Well I guess it’s not too late to make a prediction. Been driving through Kentucky with my girlfriend, visiting college friends and touring bourbon distilleries. And eating at the best restaurants in Kentucky (I say that unironically… these places are amazing).

    Anyway, I’ll go with some preview chalk and pick Ozzy. This feels like a good place to boot a player like him, and this season seems to have some momentum in terms of only kicking off the star players.