Survivor Heroes vs Healers vs Hustlers Week Twelve Predictions

One more week until the predictions get serious. Who’s not going to be around for the finale?

 

Reader Predictions

Who do you think will go home?

Who will be the thirteenth boot from Survivor: HHH?

  • Ben (38% Votes)
  • Ashley (26% Votes)
  • Devon (16% Votes)
  • Ryan (9% Votes)
  • Mike (7% Votes)
  • Chrissy (4% Votes)

Total Voters: 92

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Staff Predictions

Andy

I’m gonna be basic and just go with the guy who five of the remaining players left in the game not only voted for last tribal, but have also been talking about for weeks now as the biggest threat out there: Ben. Sadly, I’m also starting to feel more and more like Ben is the winner of a final three against Ryan and Chrissy. So let’s hope I’m right this week and not worry about that then.

John

It would make very little sense to get rid of Mike. He’s strategically inept, he doesn’t have a really strong ally left, and he should be beatable in a final tribal even with a large number of former tribemates on the jury. So naturally, Mike is the target.

Emma

I tried optimism, and all it got me was the fan favorite going home after making an all-time dumb mistake. This week, optimism is gone and so is Devon.

Apparently this episode is supposed to be wild and crazy, so I just can’t see Ben being eliminated as easily as he should be. Perhaps he pulls a Penner and surprises everyone by winning immunity. All I know is Devon lost an ally, and the only one he has left has been itching to make a big move.

Matt

Ashley is going home. Why? I think the most solid three together are Mike, Chrissy and Ryan which means Chrissy gets to pick a target, so yeah its the only other woman left in the game. Bye Ashley! What about Ben you say? Somehow these dummies will have forgotten that they all just voted for him.

Mark

I don’t know why I bother with this anymore. But I’m going to say Ashley. She won’t win immunity and Chrissy will want her gone. Plus she was gunning for Ben, so he’ll be mad. Not to mention this means Ryan and Chrissy are destined to be in the finale and why not continue the tire fire. The finals can only have one surfer.

 

 
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First Out Katrina Chrissy Katrina Katrina Katrina Katrina
Second Out Simone Patrick Lauren Ali Lauren Lauren
Third Out Lauren Lauren Patrick Patrick Lauren Lauren
Fourth Out Joe Jessica Joe Joe Cole Joe
Fifth Out Roark Roark Roark Roark Roark Roark
Sixth Out Ali JP JP Ali Chrissy Ali
Seventh Out Cole JP Desi Cole Cole Cole
Eighth Out Joe Joe Desi Desi Joe
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Ninth Out Joe Cole JP Joe Joe
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Tenth Out Mike JP Joe Ashley Ashley
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Eleventh Out Joe Joe Ben JP Mike
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Twelfth Out Mike Mike Ryan Ryan Ryan Ryan
Thirteenth Boot Ben Mike Devon Ashley Ashley
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  • I think it will be Ryan but he will go out in weird way such as rock draw

    • prettyboyprobst

      I could see that, too.

  • Blurry Denzel

    Somehow Ryan just looks better every week but not burning every bridge when he doesn’t get his way and not doing showy yet stupid moves. So he’ll probably be gone this week while Chrissy and Mike fuck up their way to success. I picked Ben though because I would rather him gone. I think the finale would be more interesting if he wasn’t there.

  • Taako From Teevhii

    NToS was super heavy handed with the “Everyone’s gunning for Ben,” which means that he’ll win immunity and they’ll have to turn to who they think is the next biggest mastermind: Devon

    • Blurry Denzel

      Do they think he’s a mastermind though? It seems he’s a target because of his relationship with Ashley more than strategic skills and even then it seems like they want Ashley gone first.

      • Taako From Teevhii

        In a bonus confessional from Barbara’s post yesterday, Chrissy says that she thought it’d be easiest to break Ashley away from her alliance bc she’s not getting credit as a strategist, whereas Ben and Devon are.

        • Blurry Denzel

          Oh shit, maybe I should’ve actually watched those instead of jumping on to talk baseball.

          • Diego Armando

            She said that in the main episode to.

          • Taako From Teevhii

            Did she specifically name Ben and Devon?

          • Blurry Denzel

            I do remember the “easiest to break” line. That does make me confused why target her this episode if the previews are to be believed.

          • Taako From Teevhii

            I can’t fault you for wanting to talk baseball, especially as the hot stove is just igniting.

          • Blurry Denzel

            Yeah, didn’t even talk about Ohtani going to the Angels which I actually thought was a letdown.

          • Taako From Teevhii

            I think TheForRealDeal commented somewhere on it, and that started a thread. But I will say, I was rooting for Mariners as a clear number 1, Padres as a disappointing number 2, and everyone as “who gives a fuck?” So it’s definitely disappointing.

            I also don’t understand why everyone thinks the Angels are favorites for a WC with just this signing. They finished below .500 last year, and there’s no guarantee that Ohtani will be worth more than 4-5 WAR. Granted, you have to add back in missed time from Trout’s injury, but as they stand, idk if they push to 90 wins. Which, if Minnesota and Seattle make the upgrades they’re looking to make, is what it’ll take to get the second WC. The Angels are contenders, but it’s not locked up.

          • Blurry Denzel

            Mariners was also my #1 destination. I just want good things for them. Shout out to Minnesota for making some suave under the radar moves. I love their turnaround.

          • Taako From Teevhii

            I’m with you on your first two sentences, but weirdly, your text disappears right after that. You wrote more there, right?

          • Blurry Denzel

            Hey, maybe the White Sox can make a bounce back too… eventually.

          • Taako From Teevhii

            It might come sooner than you think.

            Tho to be clear, not in 2018. This season will be a larger, hotter garbage fire than 2017 was.

          • TheForRealDeal

            I really need to change my username.

            Expect the Angels to go all in now, which with four other superteams in the AL probably spells death for the Mariners unless they can make some long-term pitching upgrades, which is a bit unsavory as their window of playoff opportunity is closing fast. It’s a bit of a bind.

          • Taako From Teevhii

            How much more can LA spend? Their farm is demolished, so that’s the only way they can add talent now.

            Just because the Astros already got their title, I’m rooting for the Mariners in 2018 as super underdogs. WS or bust this year! Altho Dipoto saying that they’ll only add position players thru R5 and waiver claims is not inspiring. There are still holes in that depth chart.

          • TheForRealDeal

            Depth is a real issue, he’s definitely banking on the core lineup over-performing.
            Which, after the pitching staff collectively donated their arms to medical science this past year, is fair.

          • Assistant Dragon Slayer

            December’s the time to fantasize. Even with Ohtani, the Angels are still a stars-and-scrubs team on both offense and pitching. The Astros should continue to mash, but they have some very high injury risk pitchers (including Verlander). Good for them for holding it together in October, but 18 extra games in 2017 won’t help in 2018.

            The A’s youngsters probably won’t all be in place until 2019, but if they can sign or trade for an undervalued late bloomer the way they did with Josh Donaldson or Khris Davis, maybe the window of contention opens a season ahead of schedule, like in 2012. I would love to see the A’s and Mariners at least fighting it out for a Wild Card spot.

          • TheForRealDeal

            Okay, but the Mariners get to win this time. 2014 can’t be our touchstone year forever.

          • Taako From Teevhii

            He’s gotta pick up some real outfielders. Jack Z would’ve signed JD already, but I don’t suppose that’ll be happening this winter. Maybe Jerry can swing a trade for one of Milwaukee’s OF, or maybe one of the Dodgers’ after Ozuna moves to LA. I’m also hopeful that for some reason, Archer’s trade market fails to materialize like Verlander’s and Seattle swoops in to get him (even tho Archer and JV are apples and oranges).

          • TheForRealDeal

            Any of those moves would be contrary to Jerry’s abiding ethos, i.e. if it ain’t broke, don’t buy it.

          • Taako From Teevhii

            I thought Jerry’s ethos was “When one trade suffices, make two more.”

          • TheForRealDeal

            Maybe ethos is the wrong word. Compulsion? Insatiable urge?

          • Purple Rock Emma

            I was rooting for the Giants, but also for the not-Dodgers.

  • Maritimer

    I’ve been saying they are going to split up the Chrissy/Ryan pair for two weeks now and out of stubbornness I’m picking Ryan again. I think Ben’s too obvious, NToS suggested Ashley so I’m ruling her out. I think Chrissy is a losing finalist and Devon can’t go home because it will end the slightest care I have for this season

  • Diego Armando

    I say Devon because this season sucks. I think there is a good chance it could be Ashley also.

  • Blurry Denzel

    Blurry Denzel power rankings. These are the people most likely to win Survivor.

    1. Devon
    2. Ben
    3. Mike
    4. Ashley
    5. Ryan
    6. Chrissy

    I don’t think Chrissy has a chance in hell of winning but she is the only one. I’m not sure about Ashley’s path to victory but I think it will be by beasting challenges and sitting next to disliked people but the show has not gotten me invested in her winning story.

    • Taako From Teevhii

      I wonder if Ashley is getting an Adam Klein edit with fewer blunders (bc she didn’t do anything). So they’re highlighting the people they want to bring back over the actual winner of the season.

      • Alycia Swift

        Wouldn’t that be the Michele edit? They probably would want to bring Adam back at some point.

        • Taako From Teevhii

          I thought Michele got more confessionals than Ashley is getting now.

          • Alycia Swift

            Maybe she did … but didn’t Adam get a heck of a lot of confessionals? Plus Adam had a heart-tugging storyline. Both Michele and Ashley did not.

          • Taako From Teevhii

            I guess to me, the difference is that Michele’s win was only justified by the edit and not at all by the gameplay, whereas Adam’s win was purposefully obfuscated by the overall edit.

          • Michele got a high amount of confessionals especially with screentime hogs Tai and Aubry staying around the same amount of time as her.
            Before doing my research, I predict that Ashley has 25 confessionals.

          • Max_Jets

            Hey witch, Ashley has had exactly 25 confessionals.

          • What?!? Holy shit.

          • Max_Jets
          • Alycia Swift

            Most of which said nothing.

          • Correct.

    • Diego Armando

      Ashley needs to be next to Chrissy and Ben in the finals. I think Devon steals all the credit she gets, Mike has friends on the jury and Ryan will get underdog credit.

      • Taako From Teevhii

        If that’s what happens, I think we might end up with the 3-3-2 vote that everyone seems sure will happen. Chrissy gets JP and Ryan; Ashley gets Devon, Joe, and either Lauren or Mike; Ben gets the other one, Cole, and Desi.

        Also, if the tie-breaker Jeff talked about last finale happens, Chrissy refuses to let Ben win and gives the title to Ashley.

      • Blurry Denzel

        I think Ashley can beat Ryan though that one can go either way. Ryan has made himself more likeable than Chrissy and would fit the underdog role better.

  • Ms. Sweaterfan

    My explanation contains very minor social media related possible spoilers so read with caution (and let me know if I should add spoiler tags??)

    I voted for Ben because Joe’s tweet led me to believe that something exciting/entertaining will happen this TC and the things I can think of that would entertain him so much are 1) a power player and/or someone that Joe had previously feuded with goes home or 2) Mike does something really stupid. For option #1 I think that pretty much limits it to Ben or Chrissy, and I think Ben is in a trickier spot so I went with him.

    At this point I’m at a total loss for who will win, but I did go down an ill advised Reddit rabbit hole this week and the consensus there seems to be that it’s going to be a very close final vote and the results may not even be a foregone conclusion going into FTC so at the very least I hope that’s true and the jury portion is at least interesting.

    • Taako From Teevhii

      I will be happy if the new jury format is actually dynamic, as opposed to last season. But I also know that Cole and JP will just sit there and say nothing, so it could end up being a handful of jurors just grilling the people they didn’t like.

      • Maritimer

        I think Cole will say things. They may not be particularly insightful, but he will say things

        • Taako From Teevhii

          “I want to ask a question to Lauren.”

          “Uh, I’m on the jury, bud.”

          “Why couldn’t I eat more coconuts when we were on Yawa?”

          • sharculese

            “You could have asked that the whole time we were at Ponderosa.”

            “I meant to, but I saw a cool looking bird.”

            “For six straight days?”

            “There were a lot of birds.”

          • Taako From Teevhii

            You joke on this one, but Cole straight up didn’t show when Lauren and Joe brought crabs back for dinner. He was almost missing entirely from Lauren’s Ponderosa.

      • Blurry Denzel

        Mike will talk the most as a juror and the things he’ll say won’t be as insightful as he thinks they are. Joe will be the loudest. Lauren will be the juror MVP. Desi and JP won’t say much bit will look great during it.

        • You forgot to say that Ryan will be the douchest juror (if he is not FTC)

      • sharculese

        I’m just thankful that Tyler didn’t get to use this jury format. He would have been insufferable.

  • Ms. Sweaterfan

    Unrelated: Is anyone else watching Top Chef this season? They’re in Denver! The very first elimination challenge was a block party in Larimer Square, which I can literally see out the window from my desk at work. I’m kicking myself for going on stupid maternity leave this summer while they were filming >:[

    • StormofCuteness

      I have a very good feeling about this season! Sorry you missed the filming though.

  • Blurry Denzel

    So I’ve been thinking about Probst’s comments about this season having the greatest FTC ever. It made me think of previous FTCs and I usually remember the best individual performances rather than the overall setup. I think this year is will be more of no one standing out which I’m not sure will be more exciting than someone closing out strong in front of the jury. Also, these are my five favorite FTC performances.

    1. JT
    2. Todd
    3. Badass Sophie
    4. Denise
    5. Chris*

    *That was by far the best part of his overrated game.

    • purplerockandy

      Now, having a player give a great FTC performance might not be the same thing as a great FTC.

      • Blurry Denzel

        I guess what I’m saying is for me the idea of an overall great FTC is something I don’t envision. More of the individual moments being what makes solid FTC’s.

      • I would say MvGx is a great FTC, but I would not rank any of those three as great FTC performers. China is high on that list because you have two of the best FTC performances and one of the worst.

        • Max_Jets

          Hannah might have one of the best losing FTC performances. I was impressed at least!

          • I was too, but I don’t know how much of that was based on the fact that we assumed Hannah would fall apart at FTC.

          • Blurry Denzel

            Even as the biggest Hannah supporter here, I was expecting her to have a shitty FTC. I do think that helps how we look at her performance but even with that I thought she was really impressive. Or at least impressive to the viewers at home.

          • sharculese

            Wait, do we not think Hannah fell apart at FTC? Cuz… I thought she did.

          • When you think fall apart at FTC, do you think of Hannah or Monica Culpepper first?

          • sharculese

            Well, Hannah, because she’s more recent and I didn’t watch BvW live.

          • Alycia Swift

            I think of Amanda first. I don’t think of either Hannah or Monica.

          • Blurry Denzel

            From the perspective of the jurors, which is most important, she might have. I thought she answered pretty much everything great. I felt she explained her game super well.

          • I also think that those jurors were never going to vote for her regardless because of her reactions before Day 39.

          • sharculese

            That’s the thing, I felt like she didn’t realize until that point that the jury didn’t respect her game, and she seemed really thrown off by it.

          • That may be true, but she put in a pretty good fight to at least say that Adam wasn’t the strategic mastermind they all thought he was. The problem with that? She didn’t realize that they didn’t care about strategy as much as the social bonds that he had made with them.

          • Alycia Swift

            Which was weird for a season that everyone was talking strategy, strategy, strategy and claimed they were a gamer.

          • Blurry Denzel

            Yeah, she was drawing dead well before then, unfairly in my mind but Survivor isn’t fair. I know I can never cone off objective with Hannah, especially after my Fan Friction article, but I believe her game one we look back on a couple years from now in a rewatch and see that it was pretty good even with a couple of huge mistakes (Mari vote, well convo with Zeke).

          • sharculese

            I’m willing to make a bet with you on this. Over the summer let’s re-watch MvGX and if I can honestly say that Hannah’s game wasn’t as bad as I think it is I’ll… something. We can figure out the terms later.

          • Blurry Denzel

            That seems like highly difficult of a bet for me to win but I have a great history of commenter bets and I’ll rewatch a pretty good season like MvGX, so yeah, I’m down for whatever.

          • sharculese

            Let me put it this way. If I can rewatch the season, listen to your arguments, and still not be satisfied that Hannah is a good player, knowing that I was right all along is the only prize I need, so you’re not actually risking anything here.

          • Blurry Denzel

            Fair enough.

          • Diego Armando

            You will win. She was actively terrible at Survivor for the majority of the season.

          • Blurry Denzel

            Actively terrible is a strong statement I definitely disagree with. Even if she isn’t as good as I think she is, I can’t her being any below a C player.

          • Diego Armando

            If I were Jessica or Zeke. I would 100% poison the well for Hannah.

          • I mean Jessica basically implied that a large portion of her vote was because Adam participated in the rock draw while Ken and Hannah were immune.

          • sharculese

            There was a big question Hannah was always going to have to answer about why she kept throwing a brick in the works when everyone else just wanted to get rid of David. She couldn’t come up with a better reason than “I was playing my own game.”

          • Taako From Teevhii

            Hannah eschewed making smart/good moves in favor of “playing her own game,” which is the inverse of Ken, who made one single good move at the end but otherwise played David’s game the entire time. What does it mean that neither of them won?

          • sharculese

            That what really matters is doing whatever this particular jury needs to be the person they feel comfortable losing to, and that Adam did that while Hannah was scrambling to build a resume and Ken was doing fuck all.

          • That’s a fair question and major concern about her game. She could have said that he was my strategy shield and once he was gone, then I would have been a target again. After all, half of you tried to vote me out twice in a row.

          • Blurry Denzel

            I thought she answered it fine to a group that was never going to accept the answer. As an observer, if she just went with David on other people’s terms, she never gets the credit. Everyone she wanted gone left when she wanted them to. Unfortunately, she can’t do that resumé building or sell it as well as a Natalie Anderson but I think that was the right approach for Hannah’s game.

          • A big part of that was the majority of the jury saw her spend 10 minutes at the first tribal she attended because she couldn’t make a decision. She was screwed essentially.

          • Blurry Denzel

            That was an impossible thing for her to recover from. I can’t defend that moment but I wish others would’ve seen some “growth” that they saw in David. Though, to be clear, I think David was better.

          • Alycia Swift

            Plus she had at least one idol played on her and had that panic attack at a challenge. Wasn’t she sitting that one out?

          • Yes, she was.

          • Super duper fan

            David and Will said they thought she had a great FTC performance. I think in the end they just thought Adam played a better game, and that’s why they voted for him, but don’t take my word for the last part, cause it’s a bit blurry for me.

    • Super duper fan

      I think it is a pretty accurate list. JT, Todd, Sophie and Chris are basically locks to always be in the top 5. I don’t necessarily remember Denise having a great FTC, but probably it’s due to the whole jury seeming pretty down on the all finalists in general, rather than her being the problem. But besides them, I think Denise is a good choice, because there isn’t anyone else standing out (unless you count the Australian Survivor, then I would put the season’s 1 winner at no.1).

      Ashley Underwood, we’re forever grateful for what you’ve brought to the game. We are not worthy of the joy you bring us.

  • I’m going Devon. I’ve just had the feeling he wasn’t going to make the finale so this is my last chance to be right about that.

    Also I finally finished watching One World and I want to talk about it but I don’t want to make a long trailing comment about it so I just want to say: Kim: good, Colton: bad, Alicia: bad, racism: very bad, Tarzan: WTF, Kat: Surprisingly entertaining, Troyzan: OK I get it now but I still don’t really like him.

    I’m sure I’m forgetting something but that’s the general gist of it.

    • Blurry Denzel

      Yeah, you covered it though I still don’t get Troy.

      • I should clarify, I don’t get him either, but I get why they wanted him back, dude’s a throw back to old school survivor seasons. I can see why production thought he was good TV. In his defense he was the only person that season who they could edit as being a threat to Kim so good on him. Overall though, I’m still out on Troy, I just understand now why they picked him as a returnee at least.

    • the sky is falling

      The only change you need to make is…. Tarzan: “The game is afoot”

      • Alycia Swift

        And “quantum entanglement.”

        • sharculese

          I loathe “quantum entanglement.” It’s the most striking example of that halfwit jag using big words and phrases he clearly didn’t understand to make himself look smart.

          • Alycia Swift

            I just thought it was funny.

          • sharculese

            Oh, I know my hate for Tarzan is irrational, but I fucking hate Tarzan so much.

          • F***ing Stick

            I also have an irrational hate for Tarzan. I finished watching One World a couple of weeks ago and my main thought through most of the post-merge (other than Kim is awesome) is how much I would hate to live with Tarzan.

          • Blurry Denzel

            I recently listened to TEOS on One World was very annoyed with Wigler’s selling Tarzan as not awful and I’m rarely annoyed at Josh.

          • F***ing Stick

            What was he saying to try to sell the not-awfulness of Tarzan?

          • Blurry Denzel

            Mostly that Tarzan was playing up the role as a calculated strategic move rather than him being the clown he is.

          • F***ing Stick

            Yeah, I don’t by that.

    • Maritimer

      All I remember about One World is: Kim good; Alicia/Colton bad; Tarzan weird; Jay hot. So glad to know you don’t pick up on much else while watching.

      I had completely forgotten Troy until the GC casting rumours started leaking.

      • Wait, which one was Jay? Was he the Bum Puzzled guy? If so I liked that line a lot, if he did nothing else that season it was worth it just for that.

        Which reminds me, the men seriously went to tribal council when they didn’t have to. That still blows my mind.

        • Maritimer

          Yes, that was Jay. I don’t remember anything about his game, just that he was hot. And tried out to be a Price is Right model or something with Philippines Pete.

          Yeah, the voluntarily going to tribal is up there in the most ridiculous things to have ever happened. I fully believe that production didn’t tell Jeff and his surprise at their arrival was legitimate

          • Yeah I agree, Jeff’s reaction did not look faked to me.

    • Assistant Dragon Slayer

      Leif in a box. Kat’s cousin. Christina the archetype of island hot. Sab and Chelsea might have been contenders on a different season. That’s all I got.

      • Oh God Kat’s cousin. I didn’t know what was happening there. And Christina… yeah…

        Good point on Sab and Chelsea. I knew Kim won but I didn’t know the path. I kept thinking she must take Christina with her as a goat so when they voted her out I was genuinely surprised. So I was happy that Jonas asked her why she did it, and it seems some people respected her more for not taking Christina with her to the final… put “knows how to read the jury” on the list of things that Kim did extremely well.

        • Alycia Swift

          And good she did not reward Alicia either by taking her to final. Kim legitimately took competition.

          • It’s crazy but I do think she legitimately took two of the best players that season with her to final TC and STILL won. What a game.

            And another thing I want to acknowledge. Sabrina set the stage for the entire season by giving the idol she found to Colton. I really thought that was a fantastic move.

          • Alycia Swift

            It was for her. For the audience, not so much as we had to deal with Colton.

          • Oh she totally enabled one of the biggest bullies Surivivor’s ever seen. But it really did put her and the women into the position they needed to take over the game. Colton doused his tribe with gasoline and threw a match at them, then bailed. I legitimately can’t believe they asked him back.

          • Alycia Swift

            But she could not have known that he would douse his own tribe with gasoline.

          • True but overall I think it was a good read by Sabrina. She could probably tell he was at the bottom of his tribe and might be willing to work with the women down the line, he was the right person to give it to if your goal was to hurt the men’s tribe.

          • The story is that Probst didn’t want him, but Production and Casting did (Lynne Spellman has said that One World is one of her favorite casts). He has pointed to Colton 2.0 as the moment where he got more control over the casts.

          • Ah that would explain it then. Probst was the one calling him out on his shit since BvW which didn’t make sense to me because he rarely does that, since the players are like his babies.

  • Blurry Denzel

    So Dalton Ross came out with the fan voted rankings for best winner ever. I closed the tab after Kim wasn’t in the top three. Ranking winners remains an impossible task that even I wasn’t up to.

    • Max_Jets

      Ranking winners is impossible, but that is a bad list. I imagine most of the people who voted Hatch so high have not watched the show for a long time.

      • Roswulf

        I give any ranking of Hatch a pass- Season One is so different from everything that has followed that he really is incomparable. As for the full list, Sandra makes the top five twice, so I don’t care. Objective rankings of such things are futile; I just want the Queen to place respectably in the meaningless popularity contest.

        • Blurry Denzel

          I’m surprised by the Sandra love in the overall Survivor fandom. Maybe there was a shift after GC but I got the impression (not here) that she was overrated

          • Yet, JT is still fairly high. Who knows?

          • Blurry Denzel

            That’s what happens when you give Stephen the ability to vote multiple times.

          • But Jeremy tho…

          • Blurry Denzel

            The joke works for him too. I do like that even Stephen recognizes that Kim is #1.

          • Jeremy is still pretty low. In fact, a lot of the recent winners are really low.

          • Yeah I’m down on this list overall. Clearly a popularity contest in many ways. I haven’t seen all of the seasons yet so I guess I shouldn’t be weighing in, but in terms of the seasons/winners I have seen I don’t like it.

            If you want to argue that Parvati is the number one player of all time I’ll hear you out. If you want to tell me her Micronesia win is the greatest win of all time? Count me out. I can’t in good conscience give her number 1 when she won in a half and half season. I get Hatch placing high. Sandra’s HvH win in the Top 3 is acceptable, but there’s a damn good argument to be made that it should be number 1. I am not so sure about Boston Rob’s victory being a top 5 win but Dalton acknowledged there was a wide swing in the voting for Rob. Kim should certainly be higher. I would definitely put Jeremy ahead of at least Tyson and Ethan, if not higher.

            Also, let’s talk about the bottom. Bob Crowley placed higher than Michelle Fitzgerald? That’s crap. They both won late immunities to get to the end so that’s a wash, but Michelle’s game was WAY better than Bob. Also Bob placing higher than Vecepia is bullshit. Vecepia played a good game, she’s the poster child for playing well from the bottom, the first one to win after being in a clear minority at the merge. She’s boring, the end of Marquesas is boring, fine, but she’s better than Bob, by a pretty wide margin IMO. You want to put her towards the bottom of the list, that’s fine too, I get it, but Vecepia should be mid-20s for placement, I can think of a number of winners worse than her and I haven’t even seen every season.

          • Bob being anywhere above 33 is pretty bad.

          • Yeah I may have been more outraged about that than anything else. Of the season’s I’ve seen Bob is an easy last place vote for me (I haven’t seen Nicaragua).

          • Fabio being at 34 makes a lot of sense but I could see bob being 34 as well.

        • Max_Jets

          I also think The Queen is way too high on both placements, but that’s only because they’re separating individual wins.

        • Kemper Boyd

          For me the Queen’s individual games are pretty average. But it’s the resume that puts her Number 1 all time as a player for me. That and entertainment value.

      • Kemper Boyd

        Winner rankings are completely personal. What I like isn’t what others like. But having said that, any list without Kim at the top is utter bullshit.

    • Super duper fan

      Very…interesting list to say the list. I actually also submitted my own ranking to that poll, mostly on the spot. I still don’t necessarily agree that the winners can be ranked, but it was a fun exercise to know how much I value certain winners over the other. Needless to say, my ranking differed very much from these results.

    • Diego Armando

      Fan vote would never put Kim there because this is open to the casuals, who would want to vote for a big name, big personality player from a season that was popular.

  • Assistant Dragon Slayer

    The target remains on Ben throughout the episode, then he wins immunity. Devon, Ben, and Ashley vote for Chrissy (at Ben’s insistence); Ryan, Chrissy, and Mike vote for Ashley (at Chrissy’s insistence). On the revote, Devon won’t flip on Ashley and Ryan won’t flip on Chrissy, Ben won’t take his vote off Chrissy and Mike’s wanted to be in a rock draw for 15 years. The rock is purple to match the merge tribe buff and as a shout-out to us. Devon is rocked out.

  • Spergatory

    Well, Devon is the only one left that I actually like, so I fully expect him to go home this week because hope is a lie and death is inevitable.

    • Purple Rock Emma

      You get me.

  • sharculese

    Are there any WWE Fans out there? Have you heard of ‘The Montreal Screwjob’, well this Shakespearian Tale describes the ingenious PR team of CBS avoiding an epidemic that would become known as ‘The Beaufort Rimjob.”
    To start, he story of Lauren Rimmer being cast is a lie. She’s been applying for years, since season 2 actually, yet was never cast by CBS until now. CBS knew they had struck gold with this ginger-slaying, power-squatting, soul eating, alpha, beta and omega, titty-titan…Yet had to wait for the right timing.
    Little known fact, is that CBS has planned the timeline of survivor since day 1, what every season would be, who would win each time and when players would be deemed worthy of return. This is often hidden by a smokescreen of Jeff Probst lies and deception – only worthy of an ‘executive producer’ (Jeff Probst is actually AI created by Mark Burnett). CBS knew that there would be an early 20’s dark ages, a late 20’s/ early 30’s influx of all-stars seasons and, since Survivor’s inception, knew when old school and new school would begin and end (Evident through the insertion of Probstian AI, model name: ‘Russel Hantz’).
    Firstly, Rimmer would not be unleashed until old school had ended. CBS couldn’t risk The Rimmer being mixed into a world of Twila Tanners and Denise Martins, so they had to let her archetype fester. Become something the casual fan despised, and something the superfan didn’t quite comprehend or could read, so that The Rimmer could win against all odds.
    Secondly, they needed Rimmer to play in a season in which the cast was an experiment. Chrissy was cast to see if Dawn could win if she had teeth. Joe was cast to see if Tony could win a season that didn’t hold its casting in a mental asylum. Hannah was meant to be saved for this season to see if Aubry could do better if she were a little more awkward (The casting director that allowed her into S33 has since been terminated, killed and all shreds of their former existence destroyed). They needed to build this story, in which Rimmer, the superhuman, could defend the survivor world from gamebots and failed experiments.
    Thirdly, the time was right. CBS knew that if they had unleashed Rimmer before the all-stars influx, she wouldn’t be able to return. Rimmer is not a game changer – Rimmer is the game. Rimmer VS Blood VS Water isn’t a marketable season. Winner’s did not get asked back for Second Chances. CBS knew that if an all stars season was released and the Rimmer was not present, the mass hysteria in which would follow, would likely result in riots, killings and terror attacks…
    The question is, what will CBS do now? There may only be one more all-stars season left in the future of survivor (Fans VS Rimmer, Champions VS Challengers VS Rimmer, All-RimmersWinners are all marketable). CBS may unfortunately have to kill of Rimmer, so that her legacy lives on forever – so that they milk Survivor until its last cent, and still insert another influx’s of all-stars, and not have to worry about receiving death threats and perhaps causing a war.
    I personally do not know the answer, but remember, you have all been warned.
    (I’m aware this is as circlejerky as it gets but je regrette rien-ish)

    • Blurry Denzel

      Idk what I’ve just read but I love this just for the Montreal Screwjob mention. If I come off a insane Survivor superfan, just imagine my extreme love/hate relationship with WWE. That is like Survivor doubled for me.

    • SurvivorWerewolf(JTHelland)

      I also am a fan of WWE, although mostly because I am an extremely cynical person and like to make fun of it. Who’s y’all’s fav?

      • Blurry Denzel

        Triple H would be an appropriate answer considering the season of Survivor but that’s definitely not my answer.

  • Mike Hirsch

    Sure, this episode is *supposed* to be all fireworks and wild craziness, but I’m not sure I’m buying into it. However, knowing what we know about these players and this season, here’s how I expect things to play out: Ben’s in trouble! He needs to win immunity but doesn’t! Easy vote, except Chrissy crunches some numbers and says “As a student of the game of Survivor” and deduces things, and realizes they need Ben in their numbers. She gets Mike as a backup plan to Ben. Mike tells Devon and Ashley about Chrissy’s plan, but then votes with Chrissy and Ryan, while Ben votes with Ashley and Devon. Mike and Ashley are tied for votes. Both Ben and Ryan swap their vote, causing another tie. They all agree Ashley—no wait! Devon doesn’t! He’s standing tall on the wings of his dream! They go to rocks! And…Ben is rocked out, which never should have happened because the vote should have been Ben THE WHOLE TIME and I’m already annoyed at this episode.

    • Blurry Denzel

      Maybe this season is making me slowly lose my mind but that feels like an appropriate scenario and I want that to happen.

      • Alycia Swift

        Me too. Also, we’ve been hard on Cole for not being able to keep a secret but Ben’s been just as bad about telling people things.

        And I’m not defending Cole.

        In fact, this is a season where pretty much no one can keep their mouth shut if they have information.

        • StormofCuteness

          Well, other than the immunity idol that he absolutely told no one about, you mean.

    • Kemper Boyd

      Dude, why you stealing me “both people switch their votes” prediction. it’s the only one I got. Although my scenario had Mike and Ben voting on a side each, for Ashley and Chrissy. Mike and Ben both switching, Ashley and Chrissy being immune and Mike going on the rock.

  • Taako From Teevhii

    More baseball: Apparently Jim Bowden is now writing for The Athletic, and I have no clue why people are still hiring him.

    • Purplerockmatt

      yeah he sucks. I actually do subscribe to the Athletic though because their Philly coverage is really great for football and basketball

      • Taako From Teevhii

        I do not subscribe to the Athletic because I am the reason all media companies are transitioning to video. Also, I really only care about baseball media, and all the prominent writers essentially tweet their stuff for free.

        • Purplerockmatt

          oh i still find it weird that i subscribe, but eh this is where i am now

        • sharculese

          Ugh, but I don’t want video!

    • TheForRealDeal

      Maybe they have him confused with Jim Bouton?

  • Super duper fan

    To give an unpopular opinion, I picked Ryan. I don’t have any real evidence towards him, but it’s really up in the air, and he is as likely a target as others (maybe even because of a possible rock draw, if the claim that the next tribal will be even crazier to be believed).

    And here is my power rankings, since I haven’t updated it yet:

    1.Devon (0)
    2.Ben (0)
    3.Ashley (+2)
    4.Chrissy (0)
    5.Ryan (-2)
    6.Mike (0)

  • purplerockandy

    Just saw the new commercials that really lean on how much Ben has working against him and how his back is against the wall and all that and, yeah, zero percent chance my prediction is right this week.

    • I thought you said on this week’s podcast you never admit that you were wrong again. Also Ben people congratulations on your fantasy immunity points this week.

    • Kemper Boyd

      Well we know it isn’t Ashley or Ben then. I’m pretty sure Ashley gets to the end and gets 0 votes.

      • Blurry Denzel

        But getting 0 votes at the end is the Chrissy spot.

        • Kemper Boyd

          Yes but also Ashley.

          • Blurry Denzel

            Can there be an unanimous winner? Oh God, don’t let it be Mike.

          • Kemper Boyd

            I could see a unaminmous winner BUT that only happens with Ryan and Chrissy in F3 (they would both get 0) as if one is on the jury they vote for the other.

  • UseYourCommonSense

    Ben is not going, that would be way too obvious. Hopefully that bore Ashley leaves.

  • DrVanNostrand

    John and Matt both make great arguments. Between the two, though, Mike makes the least sense, so I’m going to agree with John.

  • StormofCuteness

    PRP people, Doug Jones won!! There is hope in the world! *Happy dance*

    • Now remember there is a good chance we are going lose net neutrality tomorrow.

      • StormofCuteness

        You must be fun at parties. *glare*

        • Assistant Dragon Slayer

          The me of one year, one month, and six days ago might have made the same observation, or cracked some joke about what it takes to run as a Republican in Alabama and lose, but now I’ll just cling to this win like it’s a loved one at the family visit.

          God I hope JT voted for Moore.

          • StormofCuteness

            Eek, that really would complete the “I used to think JT was a swell guy and now he makes my skin crawl” arc.

          • Assistant Dragon Slayer

            Wait, I meant I hope he voted for Jones. I used to think JT was a swell guy too. Although the more likely good scenario is that JT stayed home.

          • StormofCuteness

            Whew, I thought that was too dark!

          • Assistant Dragon Slayer

            Predicting a Dr. Mike win is about as dark as I want to get on PRP.

          • Well I sorry but this is going to be a dark season of Survivor for you.

    • Ms. Sweaterfan

      It was such a different feeling to go to bed last night with some actual hope. It made me remember going to bed before the election was called last November and how crappy I felt waking up in the morning and feeling the result before I even knew it for sure. It was about a month before we found out the sex of our baby, and I just remember thinking “well, I hope you’re not a girl because we just learned that women can’t actually do everything men can.” Super melodramatic I know, but it was a rough time 🙁
      Hopefully last night’s result is the start of an upturn in the political realm…

  • SurvivorWerewolf(JTHelland)

    I’ve got Ryan going. Chrissy can’t go and ben can’t go. I don’t see why mike would go because I think he has a very specific thing to do later. I’ve got a hunch Devon gets immunity, which leaves Ryan and Ashley. Ashley is more purple so she’s either 5 or a goat which I don’t really think happens. Therefore i pick Ryan. *shrug* also given the comments weve gotten about the craziness of this episode I feel like the only two people who are actually safe are ben and Chrissy so anyones guess is as good as mine, albeit that’s a low bar.

    • Saturday Night Palsy

      Ryan isn’t going anywhere. Goodbye Devon.

      • Assistant Dragon Slayer

        Ryan finds an idol and decides to put himself back in power by drawing the vote onto himself at tribal and idoling someone out with one vote. He goes way over the line with insults and abuse because he’s just no good at this whole interacting with humans thing. Everybody votes for him. He triumphantly reveals the idol, only it’s the fake idol, which Chrissy buried in the hope that Ben would find it.

        • Saturday Night Palsy

          I just don’t see that happening.

  • prettyboyprobst

    Devon probably still has a good shot to win if he makes it past this episode (not as good as Ben, though), but I think one of him and Ashley will have to go this week. Chrissy named Ashley as a target in the NToS preview, so I’m afraid that, by process of elimination, it’s Devon tonight.

    Rankings:

    Ben
    Devon
    Chrissy
    Ryan
    Mike
    Ashley