Survivor Kaoh Rong Episode 7 Liveblog “It’s Merge Time”

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Matt has an irrational dislike for all contestants named Michel(l)e. Also if he ever takes a strong stance about why everyone else is wrong, it is he that is inevitably wrong.

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  • Can we talk about how lazy this episode title is?

    • Violina23

      The episode has a title? 😉

    • Alkanarra

      They can’t all be “I Can Forgive Her but I Don’t Have to Because She Screwed with My Chickens”.

      • There was like 80 better episode titles in random quotes. Nick’s quote about not being the pretty girl, exercepts from Aubry’s last confessional, or Jason’s whole “Pushing Geeks into Lockers” all would have been much better.

        • sharculese

          What is with all the high school metaphors this season?

          • Purplerockmatt

            Jason was watching High School Musical before coming out

          • sharculese

            He, Peter, and Nick have all made them. If it weren’t for the fact that Peter is a doctor I would say that the explanation was that we got the perfect trifecta of dudes who peaked in high school.

          • Purplerockmatt

            Peter still might have peaked in high school

          • I bet a lot of guys watched High School Musical before coming out.

          • #zing

          • Purplerockmatt

            :hi5:

          • Hornacek

            He was hugging his shamrock bear while watching it.

          • Maybe they thought that Julia wouldn’t understand if they didn’t talk about high school.

        • Violina23

          “I’m a pretty girl” would have been a good choice too 😉

          • Damn it…that is what I meant. But, we already know what next week’s episode title is and who said it.

          • Violina23

            Ha, I glossed over that in your list, so I meant to add to your list, not correct you 🙂 Sorry!

          • No no no…I had it wrong in my original post. I said that Nick wasn’t like a pretty girl, which is clearly wrong.

          • Violina23

            It’s all good #PrayingMantisAlliance

          • #Bowdownbitches

          • Alycia Swift

            I am now hearing “I Feel Pretty” from West Side Story running through my head.

            “I feel pretty, I feel pretty, I feel pretty and witty and bright!”

        • Hornacek

          Next week’s title is along those lines.

          • We already got next week’s episode title in the Next Time On…segment.

          • Hornacek

            I got it from my PVR. It never lies to me.

          • Oh I know.

          • sharculese

            I go to this fancy place called Wikipedia.

          • Hornacek

            But if you go to Wikipedia you might see more than just the next episode title. My way you can only look one ahead.

          • Purplerockmatt

            there is nothing on wikipedia beyond an extra episode title

          • Hornacek

            That’s just what Wikipedia *wants* you to think. They lull you in and then BAM! You go there and the titles for every episode are listed there, spoiling you for the rest of the season. Episode title-wise, that is.

          • sharculese

            If you’ve already seen the most recent episode there’s nothing Wikipedia can spoil you on.

        • Alycia Swift

          The comment about dysentery would be a great title.

      • corndogshuffle

        I feel like this could be the next Purple Rock Bracket. “Best Episode Titles” would be pretty sweet.

        • sharculese

          Except it’s really definitely “I Can Forgive Her but I Don’t Have to Because She Screwed With My Chickens”

          • corndogshuffle

            If anybody voted against that episode title I don’t think I could respect their opinion. That title is like the 2012 Baylor Bears women’s basketball team that went 40-0. Just unbeatable.

        • I love episode titles. In fact, I may have created a couple of Sporcle quizzes that involve episode titles.

          • corndogshuffle

            I may or may not be about to search sporcle for said quizzes. I’m pretty sure I’ve taken a Friends episode title quiz before at the very least.

          • If you are interested in looking for links, I could maybe hook you up with them.

        • Roswulf

          I’m really fond of “She Annoys Me Greatly.”

    • sharculese

      What else were they gonna call it? “That Looks Infected”?

      • Purplerockmatt

        that would be an amazing title

      • Violina23

        or maybe “Got Bacteria?”

        • Purplerockmatt

          also amazing. steer into the skid Survivor!

      • CountBulletsula

        “Okay, Now, Everyone Grab Their Second Ball”

        • sharculese

          “Nick’s Balls are Dancing All Over the Place”

      • m0nit0rman

        That was easily the best Sum 41 album.

        • sharculese

          No such thing. Do you guys assume because of my Haley-tar that I like pop punk indiscriminately?

          • Purple Rock Emma

            You spelled her name wrong. You, sir, are a fraud!

          • sharculese

            I accidentally leave letters out all the time because my typing is really fast paced. (I had to go back and add the a to because.)

            It’s fixed now.

          • Purple Rock Emma

            I’ve got my eye on you.

          • sharculese

            Okay, what you’ll see is a trail of mangled grammar and spelling that gets fixed a day later when I re-read what I wrote and see all the mistakes I made. For someone whose job involves* teaching English, I am sadly bad at** typing it.

            *it took me three tries to spell ‘involves’

            **and immediately I realize I’m missing a preposition

          • I’m skim-reading, so I thought you said you were missing prostitution.

        • Hornacek

          That’s a low bar.

      • Sylvisual

        “Lance A Lot”?

        • Purple Rock Emma

          Get out.

          • sharculese

            I was going to tell him the same thing, but halted out of camaraderie for a fellow ATLien.

      • Something Quirky

        I’m laughing way too much at this.

      • Diego Armando

        Nick’s Very Own Episode! Although if they named it that, no one would have watched.

    • CountBulletsula

      They didn’t try very hard with the hashtags this episode either. Just one giant shrug emoticon for Neal’s medivac.

  • Violina23

    No rehearsal tonight, kids are in bed. I’m with ya to live-tweet until my 2.5 year old starts shrieking for a tissue. Or because her stuffed animal is facing the wrong way in her crib.

    • Violina23

      For those following along at home, my 2 year old stayed asleep, but my 6 year old came out to tell me her knuckle hurt. Thankfully it was before the gross-out scene

      • Purplerockmatt

        ok kid what is the size of the infection, is it black, do i need to lance it yet, that’s it i’m pulling you from the house!

  • Saturday Night Palsy

    Son of a gun! They’re postponing Survivor here to show the Spurs game! I love the Spurs but dang! Someone’s getting evacuated and I’m afraid it’s going to be someone I don’t want to leave!

  • Mike Hirsch

    Something is very, very wrong…I just realized I’m rooting for Nick.

    • Mike Hirsch

      Ok, he’s back to his arrogant self. Whew!

    • sharculese

      He had a pretty good episode, apart from the thing where he still seems like a huge creep.

      • Mike Hirsch

        Yeah, he managed to turn up the douche-factor by episode’s end. Although, he and Michelle are probably right in their thinking as far as their strategy goes (provided they can somehow whittle down Brawn at some point)…people probably won’t vote for Jason or Scot.

      • Violina23

        minor detail…

      • Other Scott

        I can’t get over how his hair looked in the challenge.

      • I find I’m definitely rooting for Nick over Jason and Scot because whilst they may all be assholes, Nick doesn’t seem like an /aggressive/ asshole.

        Also, he’s kind of oblivious, whilst the Brawn guys are more actively unpleasant. It’s a degrees thing.

        • Alycia Swift

          I want him to take out the other two, then get blindsided by Michele or Aubry or both.

      • indescribable hat

        Yeah but I feel like he’s getting really island hot…just me?

        • Hornacek

          Debbie, is that you?

    • Ms. Sweaterfan

      It’s episodes like this where I truly realize just how easily I can be manipulated by the editors. They pulled the rug out from under Debbie and made Nick into a semi-rootable narrator. They even somehow lumped Cydney in with the other “Brawn Bullies” (though they never showed her doing anything particularly bullyish).

      • Mike Hirsch

        Right? I like to think I’m all cynical and world-weary, but a positive confessional and inspirational music can totally still get me.

    • Alycia Swift

      I’m rooting for him in the sense that I want him to take out Jason and Scot … he is right about their arrogance … but he is also arrogant. And then I want Michelle and Aubry to take him out.

      • Mike Hirsch

        I’d be ok with this. I’m mostly rooting now for Aubry to slither her way past getting voted out at every turn.

  • SpicyMayoJaySimpson

    I completely missed that they hadn’t done the Immunity Challenge yet. Damn

  • corndogshuffle

    Well, I guess that explains why the show was just like “hey btw Neal found an idol” a few episodes ago.

    Farewell Neal. I’ll have some rocky road in your honor.

  • sharculese

    Is this the first evidence we’ve gotten that these people aren’t actually charmed by Debbie’s oddball behavior?

    • Purplerockmatt

      it is the clearest evidence

    • DrVanNostrand

      I think she came off as weird very early on. I think some of her brains tribemates have said since that she’s an acquired taste. She’s off-putting at first, but eventually becomes kind of endearing, so it may be too early to tell how she’ll fit in on the merged tribe.

  • Violina23

    Can Debbie PLEASE form an alliance called “Infections ‘R Us”???

    • Hornacek

      Does everyone get a secret Infection name?

      • Joe, your Infections ‘R Us nickname is Staph because you are truly a silent killer.

        • Violina23

          Ok that earned the coveted outloud laugh. Love it!

        • Hornacek

          Who gets “True Grit”?

          • Hmmm..probably someone who hasn’t gotten medical attention. At this point, I have to give it to Nick since he is the oldest one who has not been checked out for medical yet.

          • Purplerockmatt

            nah Nick is Greek God

          • Good call. Maybe Michele?

          • Purplerockmatt

            i don’t think she likes Michele enough for that… this is tough

          • I think I got it…Tai.

          • Purplerockmatt

            nailed it

          • Hornacek

            Tai Grit

  • Diego Armando

    My fear of a Jasle victory is brewing again.

    • sharculese

      We had multiple jurors talking about how much they don’t like him. That is not winner material.

      • Diego Armando

        I really hope that is true. I am just afraid we could get to a situation where he may be the best option.

    • DrVanNostrand

      Don’t worry. He’s in my zero percent club, so it can’t happen!

      • Purplerockmatt

        because nobody has ever been wrong about their zero percent club before…

        • DrVanNostrand

          Survivor winner Woo Hwang knows that these picks are infallible.

    • Ms_Woozah

      I could see Scot getting to the finals much more than Jason… he’s getting a more positive edit and people on the tribe actually seem to like him.

      • indescribable hat

        I like him so much more when he doesn’t feel like he’s in power.

  • Diego Armando

    Nick’s very own episode… may God have mercy on our souls.

  • Violina23

    What do you guys think of Michele’s edit? I think she’s still getting a strong one, a lot of confessionals when little in the episode had to do with her, plus the continuation of the “Nick thinks he’s playing me, but I’m playing him” conversation.

    I don’t care if she wins, but I’d LOVE to see her mastermind Nick’s exit, even if she goes out right after him.

    (Can you tell I can’t stand Nick?)

    • CountBulletsula

      Especially after her confessionals tonight, I can’t imagine she doesn’t make the finals. They were mostly pointless, and yet they were still included. The one right before the merge was especially glaring, I thought.

      • Diego Armando

        I think they were included because she was a potential swing vote.

      • Violina23

        I can see her in the finals with Jason… not sure on the third though. Fishbach suggested Aubrey, but she’s been doing a lot of flailing…

        • sharculese

          Aubry’s getting a looooot of on-screen chances to explain herself for someone who’s playing such a scattershot game, though.

          • Purplerockmatt

            I give Aubry a much better winner shot than Michele personally

          • Diego Armando

            I hope so. Aubry is more interesting (in game at least).

        • Violina23

          Awww crap, you guys, I just realized that with Neal’s exit, my fantasy
          team is now down to just Jason. Ewww.

      • sharculese

        The one right before the merge was obviously photoshopped to Chan Lo blue, since there was no way they had time to get confessionals in, but I love how they used another segment of it later on but with her in merge colors to drive the point home.

        • I thought her buff look way too blue and clean, even though she only had it for 6 days.

          • sharculese

            They might have given them new buffs. Debbie’s merge time confessional buff looked really clean too. But then they had her in the same spot wearing the black and purple buff in the same way and thought “oh, Photoshop”

          • Purplerockmatt

            they usually give new buffs at swap and merge

          • But, even after Day 3, those buffs aren’t that clean anymore. Heck, brighter colors are going to be exposed to the sun.

          • sharculese

            No, I mean that they pulled Michele and Debbie aside for post-merge confessionals and then gave them new blue buffs to talk about what merging felt like.

          • Purplerockmatt

            ah i see yeah i agree

          • They are getting bad about that.

    • Diego Armando

      I think she has done better this week. I am not sure if she will win, but she is firmly in the conversation. I want Nick gone yesterday.

    • Purplerockmatt

      Yeah… I really don’t agree. It seemed like she and Nick were in the middle and Nick got by far the most of the confessional time and insightful confessionals

      • Alkanarra

        I’m with Matt. Her confessionals are fine, but when you’re the person lying in the water who says “I don’t know, no one has really talked to me yet”, that’s usually not a great sign.

        • sharculese

          Whereas for some reason everyone is talking to Nick.

          • Purplerockmatt

            final three of Jason, Scot, Nick… who wins?

          • Diego Armando

            Not the viewers.

          • All I know is we lose….

            Probably Nick just because of the large beauty (minust Tai) +Debbie contingent on the jury.

          • Violina23

            Definitely not the viewers…

          • Purplerockmatt

            i really should’ve expected everyone to make this joke

          • Violina23

            But it was really cute. I actually said “Awwww” 😉

          • Diego Armando

            I’m pretty sure the three of us all typed that in at the exact same time.

          • Other Scott

            All Scot(t)’s everywhere

          • Alycia Swift

            Nick. I don’t like any of them but Scot has money … If he were at least playing for charity maybe he’d have a shot. Jason is lazy and people saw the way both treated Alecia. We’ve only seen nick being condescending to Michele. Nick would also have to win immunities to get there. But with three alpha males, you’d think Jeff would have promoted the season.

          • I agree that it’s probably Nick in that situation, but one point: People didn’t really see the way Jason and Scot treated Alecia. The only person still in the game that saw it was Cydney.

          • Alycia Swift

            There actually have been comments that people have seen the way that they acted towards her at the challenges. How else would Neal have known that she was “blondie?” I don’t get the impression he would have come up with that on his own as well.

          • Right, but I think that was the extent of what they saw. They didn’t see how Jason and Scot treated her at camp, which was worse than how they treated her at challenges.

          • Diego Armando

            I would probably vote Scot.

          • Diego Armando

            Always work with the guy who will not beat you at final tribal.

          • sharculese

            I think it’s more that Nick was the boldest because he had the least to lose.

            The whole pre-merge he never managed to shore up anything solid, so there’s really nobody he risks offending by reaching across the aisle.

            That doesn’t excuse Kyle and Scot giving away the store, of course.

          • Kemper Boyd

            I wondered if that was edited out of order, like it wasn’t right away but a couple of days in when they were sureing him up?
            I did think he did the wrong thing by winning the first immunity, if you feel safe post-merge don’t win the first immunity because now you’ve made people notice you as a threat.

          • sharculese

            Except he had a confessional where he said he thought Kyle and Scot might still be drunk, so it had to be merge feast adjacent.

          • Kemper Boyd

            Ahhh I missed that, might have been at the point I was changing buses.

          • Alycia Swift

            Who has a shot on going on an immunity run.

        • Violina23

          I wouldn’t mind an Aubrey/Michele/Jason final 3, with Jason getting shut out, and Michele being shocked to only get Julia’s vote… I could see that happening, and I’d endorse it 😉

        • prettyboyprobst

          Not sure what the editors intention was, but I didn’t hate that approach. Debbie offered her influence over the vote-out choice, but asked her to reveal herself at the same time. Michele had none of it and just turned it around without putting the brains-women off.

          She did look pretty indecisive to the viewers in the process, though, and if Scot’s opinion is any indication, that’s not a good thing.

      • DrVanNostrand

        After his very “purple” pre-merge, I almost thought Nick was getting a GG edit. But it was too positive for that.

    • DrVanNostrand

      She’s getting a decent edit. I don’t think it’s a winner edit, but it’s pretty good. I wouldn’t be surprised if she makes FTC.

    • Ms_Woozah

      I’m all in for Michele and Aubry at this point.

      This probably dooms them.

      • Kemper Boyd

        I really like Aubry, she’s also hit that point where her hair looks awesome with the buff.

        • Diego Armando

          At least Nick’s immunity win put you in the lead in the Outcast League. I’m sure you are grateful to have such a great player on your team;)

          • Kemper Boyd

            Yep, I’m now Team Douchecanoe! If he wins I would be ok, you know fantasywise.

          • Diego Armando

            I’m glad I can at least feel good about rooting for my fantasy team members. That was the primary reason I picked Tai. It was a coin flip between Aubry and Debbie for me. Debbie comparing herself to Coach tilted the scales to Aubry.

          • Kemper Boyd

            I picked Debbie because I believe I was a spot below you and my choices were Scot, Debbie or Alicia (and maybe someone else I didn’t like). She seemed boom or bust, so far boom.

          • Diego Armando

            Yeah, my same reason for Aubry. They were the only two who seemed like they had any possibility of winning, although they both seemed like potential early boots. They have worked out well for both of us.

          • Kemper Boyd

            Also am I the only person who got fantasy points tonight? Don’t answer that, I’ve just realised that you get points for making the merge. Apologies.

          • Diego Armando

            I forgot about that. Poor Count Bulletsula; prior to tonight, he was the only player in our league with only 1 player left and his gone player was Darnell.

          • Kemper Boyd

            Oh dear. Are we now at half our league eliminated?

          • Kemper Boyd

            Nope I looked it up and Ms Woozah has lost her first. A blow to the domination of the Praying Mantis Crew.

          • Diego Armando

            No, bulletsulla has been lingering with one player since episode 1.

          • Kemper Boyd

            He’s got kyle so there’s a chance of rising if some of us lose two in quick succession

          • Diego Armando

            It would be interesting if Kyle won, since there is a good chance he may not have enough points to win the league.

          • Kemper Boyd

            That would be kind of amazing because usually having the winner is the most important thing.

    • Other Scott

      I don’t like it. She’s never shown to be either right or in control of anything.

      But, I don’t like anyone’s edit so what do I know.

      • prettyboyprobst

        Maybe she isn’t right or in control, but she is an independent woman, dammit!

        And the edit reminded us of that, so I think she’s still fine and everybody else is worse off, edit-wise.

    • Alycia Swift

      But I almost want nick to get out Jason and Scot.

    • Kemper Boyd

      I can’t stand Nick but I thought her stuff tonight was bad, she was pretty wrong a lot. It may still be that she goes deep (whose coming after her) but fuck it wasn’t good.

      • prettyboyprobst

        When was she wrong this week? Not saying she wasn’t, I probably just can’t remember right now.

        • Kemper Boyd

          Her reads on where she was in her swap tribe seemed to be wrong, her read on what was best for her vacillated wildly so as to be impossible to judge. Basically I thought she looked indecisive and a bit out of the loop. Now this isn’t to say she won’t get on it now and be good but I thought this was an odd week for her. But she still got a lot of airtime when Cydney and Julia both got nothing so that still points towards her going deep.

          • prettyboyprobst

            Ok, thanks for explaining! This could be a good example for how watching with preconceived notions warps one’s perception. I liked everything I saw from her on my more casual live-watch, that I didn’t even really have an eye out for her on my rewatch.
            I won’t watch a third time and you may well be right that there was something amiss with her this week, but here is how perceived it:
            I don’t think that viewers who had not seen Debbie’s secret confessional knew how bleak Michele’s situation in the swapped tribe really was, for all we knew she and Nick were the swing votes and could have sided with either Brawn or Brains. Sure, Nick casted some doubt on that, but I felt we were meant to think that the mansplainer just couldn’t imagine that Michele was forging strategic relationships independent of him (and at the start of this epidode we learn was more focussed on taking ut Neal in that tribe). I took her scene with Debb and Aubry this week as a continuation of that connection.
            And as I said a few dozen posts below in response to Alkanarra, I didn’t think there was necessarily anything wrong with that scene in the water, in fact I liked her communicative style from a gameplay POV.
            However, imo Michele’s best scene was when she made clear to us that Brawn can’t just expect her to vote with them and that she makes her own decisions. Sure, in the end she and Nick decide to go with Brawn, but she was hearing out the Brains first and then we were given satisfactory strategic reasoning for that decision from her, so I don’t see that as wavering either.

          • Kemper Boyd

            I think her scene about the Brawns thinking they can just tell her what to do is important because it has been a criticism of Kyle and Scot before. That they think they are in charge and everyone will just do what they say, it’s what got Jennifer to fuck up her game.
            I think it’s building to their eventual demise, either by being blind-sided for it or receiving no votes at FTC for their hubris.
            The ability to work collectively and listen to those who are and those you want to be your allies is important in the game but just as important is the ability to make it look like you are working collectively and listening when in fact you aren’t. Peter and Liz were victims of that inability and Scot, Kyle and Debbie are being called out on it in confessionals, that doesn’t bode well for them.

          • prettyboyprobst

            That’s sounds like another absolutely valid way to read that scene. Heck, it could even be that we’re supposed to take both these lessons out of it, as these are non-competing views.

            Btw, what you describe in the 2nd paragraph reminds me a lot of the principles to Survivor that our common Pick-4-player Nick told us about in his pregame video. And there is truth to it.
            He did a good job reminding us why we picked him in the first place this episode and i could see him collecting many more points.

            I have to admit I’m slowly coming around on him, but I also read that you take these points more teeth-gnashingly, so I’m going to stop here.

          • Kemper Boyd

            I picked literally just because I had 4 women, thought I should have a dude to win me an individual immunity points occasionally.

          • prettyboyprobst

            Ok, then let’s just say I was speaking of the whole body of people that took him when I wrote “we”…

            Considering how bad the winning prospects for the male contestants are at this point, I’d say you had generally the right idea going in.

          • Kemper Boyd

            Yeah, I looked for some immunity point upside and then took a punt on finding a winner in the 3 women. Obvs 2 of my choices were awful.

    • gouis

      I was making fun of Michele people last week, but I’m feeling a bit better about her now. It’s not like anyone is getting a particularly good edit combined with screen time at this point (AUBRY?!?!?!?!)

      • prettyboyprobst

        Yeah, unfortunately Aubry(‘s edit) has been a hot mess. Reminds me a little bit of Spencer, actually, although I’m not sure if that comparison is fair or not.

    • prettyboyprobst

      I think her edit is still really good and the best of everyone left, although Tai had a really nice episode from that standpoint, too.

      Nick won’t win, but from a fantasy-POV I’m happy that his edit picked up steam, so I hope Michele is into long-cons and won’t rush anything.

  • Alkanarra

    Neal just joined the Colton Cumbie club by keeping his idol rather than giving it to his closest ally.

    Not, uh… not the person you ever want to be compared to, Neal.

    • I think there is more to that story. Has Neal confirmed that he couldn’t give Aubry his idol?

      • Alkanarra

        Let’s hope that’s it. Unless he thought it would be bad for it to be done in open sight, I really can’t see a good reason to hold it.

        • Violina23

          I was thinking about that at the time — because it might hurt Aubrey if the whole tribe witnessed her receiving it.

          • Alycia Swift

            And caused perhaps Debbie or joe to go.

      • Yeah, from what we saw everyone was around. And nobody asked him for it. Didn’t someone ask Colton, then Colton said he was just going to keep it?

        • Violina23

          Didn’t he make jokes about his fabulous souvenir? Or was that only after the evac?

          • Alkanarra

            I just recently re-watched One World (still not sure why) and he did indeed joke and say he’d keep it as a souvenir.

            The re-watch didn’t make him any more palatable, by the way.

          • Hornacek

            Was that re-watch a punishment? You must have done something realllllly bad.

          • Alkanarra

            Everyone always talks about how bad it is and I remembered it being a pretty decent season, so I went back to see if I was wrong.

            I was wrong.

          • DrVanNostrand

            The only thing positive I have to say about the season is that Kim is glorious. And she’s just as charming on Rob’s podcasts, damnit! I could never compete with her, it makes me so mad!

          • Hornacek

            YOU’VE SEEN IT!
            YOU CAN’T UN-SEE IT!

          • Oh no…I still have to watch it. 🙁

          • Diego Armando

            It’s pretty much Redemption Island, with no Redemption Island, a less charismatic winner and more horrible people.

          • Purplerockmatt

            was that criticism of Kim?!? Descend on him my pretties! tear him to pieces!

          • Diego Armando

            She is very, very, very good at Survivor. I just don’t find her to be the most compelling of personalities. I have not listened to anything she has done outside of the game. I think some of this may also be due to the fact that I really hate this season and am kind of annoyed that it gets a bit of a pass just due to a great winner.

          • Kemper Boyd

            She’s incredibly charismatic in interview and I imagine on the beach but she isn’t as charismatic in confessional as BR.

          • Diego Armando

            That I have no problem believing. I imagine she is really charming in person.

          • Hornacek

            Her RHAP episode recap appearances have been a joy to watch/listen to – insightful and so much fun. The one for this season (last week) was so enjoyable, after they went through all of the listener questions Rob said he didn’t want it to end so he pulled up her Survivor wiki page and started reading it to her.

          • I haven’t watched Redemption Island yet either.

          • Oh good! Don’t.

          • But, I have to see the two best games of Survivor ever…

          • Black Dynamite

            If that’s the case just watch Palau.

          • Valid point

          • Diego Armando

            Hell yeah. I need to rewatch that season. The Bobby John vs. Stephanie fire making challenge is the only episode of the series that I have not seen.

          • I have a LOT of seasons that I need to watch. Luckily, Amazon Prime has quite a few of them available.

          • Black Dynamite

            Last spring during the Second Chance voting I did a free trial on CBS and watched every season besides Africa, Thailand, Gabon and Nicaragua. Before that I’ve only watched 4 seasons total. I guess what I’m saying is be careful because Survivor is super addictive.

          • Yeah, I know. Why did you skip Africa (I can understand the other three)?

          • sharculese

            Africa has a bad rep because of how punishingly brutal it gets.

          • That’s fair. I know it’s not a lot of people’s favorite but it’s not unredeemable…right? The first episode of Africa was the first time that I quit Survivor because of Lindsey getting her period. I wish I was kidding right now, but I’m not.

          • corndogshuffle

            Africa is a great example of how not to utilize a really good cast. I wouldn’t call it irredeemable, but there’s not a lot going on if you like “game play”.

          • That’s a good point. However, I tend to like the people a little more than the gameplay, so maybe Africa will be my perfect fit.

          • corndogshuffle

            I will take interesting people over interesting game play every time, so while Africa is pretty low on my list I still enjoyed it. If you’re at all like me (and it looks like you are) you should find Africa worth your time!

          • I am. See my love for Keith Nale as prime example.

          • Purplerockmatt

            if you love Keith you’ll really love Big Tom

          • I know I will (I vaguely remember him from All Stars—yes, I watched All Stars)

          • corndogshuffle

            He is so much better in his non All-Stars season… I mean pretty much everyone was better in their non All-Stars season, but still.

          • Prom King

            I thought Big Tom was hard to love for the first half of the season. But after Clarence left I began to really enjoy him. On All-Stars I thought he was just about as unpleasant as most of the cast.

          • The way they treated Clarence was very uncomfortable to watch.

          • Diego Armando

            Yeah, that stuff was pretty bad.

          • Alycia Swift

            The winner is decent.

          • Prom King

            I actually like it more than the first two seasons. Overall a really enjoyable experience. Probably upper middle range for me, not top ten.

          • Diego Armando

            There are rough spots, but there are some good characters. This is easily the weakest cast of the first 4 seasons though.

          • Oh dear…

          • DrVanNostrand

            I was spotty throughout the beginning, but I finally quit after All Stars. Not because I didn’t like it, but because it was too hard for me to do “appointment TV” at the time. Survivor is really well suited to DVRs, torrents, and the legitimate streaming options available today.

          • For me, it didn’t help that I was extremely young when Survivor started. I was 10 when I watched Borneo. But, you are right: Survivor is the perfect binge show. You get a great story in 15 hours most of time with some drama, action, and comedy. If only Netflix made it available to stream…At least there is Amazon Prime and Hulu…and CBS All Access.

          • DrVanNostrand

            You make me feel old. Survivor was the big thing my freshman year at college.

          • sharculese

            I assumed I was the youngest person here after Emma, it’s weird to realize that’s not true.

          • corndogshuffle

            I don’t know how old you or Emma are, but I’m certainly close to being the youngest. I was also ten when Borneo aired so it really depends on what month Barbara Anderson was born in…

          • Black Dynamite

            Also ten when Borneo aired but I’m surprised to be among the youngest here.

          • Ms_Woozah

            I was 9 during Borneo! Bunch of youngins here. Andy will hate this.

          • Alycia Swift

            I feel so old. I did not watch Borneo. Started with Austrailia. Still haven’t watched Borneo but some gave it to me on DVD. But was starting school for a second career at that time.

          • andythesaint

            I was a year away from meeting my wife when Borneo aired.

            Old AF.

          • turgid_legume

            I was a grad student doing laundry at a coin-op laundromat watching the Borneo finale on one of those shitty CRT TVs they have bolted to the wall that picks up scratchy analog reception over an antenna.

            Lawns, off of them, etc.

          • Something Quirky

            Well, Ms-Woozah could have also been a year away from meeting her future partner.

          • Ms_Woozah

            HA. If I ever run into Niko and his Nintendo 64 again…

          • Violina23

            It was THE year I met my husband. Take that, old geezer…

          • There are almost enough of us olds to make an alliance against these damned millenials! We can dub our alliance “I don’t understand Snapchat.”

          • Hornacek

            Be careful, setting up a young vs. old alliance brings back memories of the-season-that-shall-not-be-named.

          • *shudder*

          • Assistant Dragon Slayer

            D’oh! Just had my “should have scrolled down another centimeter” moment!

          • Ms. Sweaterfan

            I believe I was 14 when Borneo aired. I’m not sure if that makes me an old or a young, but I ~definitely~ don’t understand Snapchat…

          • Alycia Swift

            Which would be accurate in my case. I’m having a devil of a time right now trying to get my work printer off “pause.” Snapchat is beyond me. 🙂

          • Assistant Dragon Slayer

            As long as one of us gets the Medallion of Power…

          • Purple Rock Emma

            Too old to be saying “old af,” in fact.”

          • Saturday Night Palsy

            I was a year away from divorcing my wife!

          • Andy isn’t the only one.

          • indescribable hat

            I was also nine! I remember talking about this a few years ago and I’m kind of surprised we haven’t picked up some new young’uns since then. I guess we’re still the babies around here.

          • Purple Rock Emma

            I was also 10 when Borneo aired. Mid-twenties high five!

          • Hornacek

            10 months?

          • Diego Armando

            Yay, I can join this high five!

          • My birthday is in November, so I was roughly 10 and a half when Borneo aired.

          • Purple Rock Emma

            Barbara is a little older than me, but I think it’s less than a year. I remember being devastated when I discovered Ms. Woozah was younger than me.

          • sharculese

            Huh, I thought you were two years younger than me, but I was 13 when Borneo started, so I guess it’s 3.

          • Purple Rock Emma

            Might depend on the time of year, although my birthday is in May, so I was pretty recently 10 for Borneo.

          • sharculese

            Nope, mine is in July, so it’s actually more like a 4 year difference.

          • Purple Rock Emma

            I shall henceforth refer to you as “Old Man Sharc”

          • Something Quirky

            That means you’re older than me – I was 11 (turning 12 later in the year).

          • indescribable hat

            I thought we were the same age but I’m a year younger than you too. Take that?

          • Purple Rock Emma

            🙁

          • Diego Armando

            I always assumed I was one of the youngest.

          • Violina23

            It was my freshman year too… we’re both old 🙂

          • Diego Armando

            I watched some of Africa and Marquesas sporadically when I was in middle school. The first full season I watched was Amazon (which I really enjoyed). Then I watched Pearl Islands sporadically (I remember the Osten quit, the dead grandma, and the women flipping on Burton). I then watched the full season of All Stars and have been watching religiously ever since.

          • Alycia Swift

            Am I the only one here that is older than 40? I’m reading everyone’s ages and getting depressed. Sigh, I’ll be 50 this year..

          • Diego Armando

            Eh, what can you do.

          • Hornacek

            To quote Jeff Winger, “I saw Ghostbusters in the theater.”

          • Alycia Swift

            Funny. Me 2. And The Jerk was my first rated R movie.

          • Assistant Dragon Slayer

            Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

          • Hornacek

            The first R movie I saw in a theater was The Dead Pool. I wasn’t 18 yet but I bluffed my way past the ever-vigilant ticket cashier.

          • Assistant Dragon Slayer

            That makes two of us.

          • Alycia Swift

            It had t-bird so it’s redeemable. And they actually showed a decent movie on a reward.

          • Diego Armando

            T-Bird is really good. I kind of wish she had gotten a shot at Cambodia.

          • Alycia Swift

            Me 2. She was the only old school other than Shane to not make it, I think.

          • indescribable hat

            What is this “kind of?”

          • Diego Armando

            I am unsure who I would kick out to give her a spot.

          • indescribable hat

            That’s fair. I would have said Kimmi before the season, but now maybe Monica? Eh, the season turned out great. I should let go of some of this anger.

          • Diego Armando

            Yeah, I was initially upset that Kimmi got her spot, but she wound up delivering.

          • I rewatched Africa last summer. It does have some decent characters, but the gameplay is definitely constrained by the small spaces they had to live inside. If you like big, enjoyably obnoxious characters, you’ll probably like Tom.

          • Purplerockmatt

            I hate Africa, there are some great personalities but they stop doing anything because they literally can’t go anywhere. it is my least favorite season

          • DrVanNostrand

            That’s a tough thing to say. There are a lot of things wrong with Africa, but there are also some great characters and character moments. It’s in my bottom third, but there are quite a few seasons I found much less pleasant.

          • Black Dynamite

            I think my month was up before I got to it. I wasn’t going in order. I gave higher priority to more acclaimed seasons.

          • Good thinking. But that is still impressive, especially since there are (reportedly) 80 million commercials per hour long episode.

          • Black Dynamite

            The same ones too. I haven’t been to a Kohl’s since.

          • At least Hulu has some variety and not that many.

          • Diego Armando

            Africa doesn’t hold up particularly well.

          • Kemper Boyd

            NICE! I started watching at Cook Islands in university and because I didn’t work very hard I managed to get up to speed in about 3 weeks after that. I do a lot of rewatches in the off season.

          • Black Dynamite

            My original plan was to watch about five or six seasons in that month but I was so blown away by Pearl Islands, I ended up watching that season in one day.

          • I rewatched Pearl Islands last summer too, and it holds up really well. Such a great cast, and the marooning/buying provisions in town portion is so fun to watch.

          • Black Dynamite

            One thing I noticed when I binged the older seasons is how much more creative/interesting the season opener scenes were were. The Pearl Islands one is my favorite. I also liked the Palau one. Guatamala went a bit too extreme with the 11 mile hike but it was entertaining television.

          • sharculese

            I thought Cagayan had a pretty great one with the Brawns being trucked in, the Brains airlifted, and the Beauties coming by boat, all with different scores.

            And of course, not enough can be said about Cambodia’s first fifteen minutes.

          • Assistant Dragon Slayer

            When was the last time the locale and/or the local culture had a major effect on the feel of the season? China?

          • Black Dynamite

            Yeah I would say China. These past few seasons I have trouble remembering where they’re located.

          • Diego Armando

            I am stunned they have not tried that town opening a second time. That was magical.

          • Diego Armando

            I was able to watch Australia-All Stars DVD’s from my library system. The weird thing was that Marquesas was checked out, overdue and had a hold on it; so at least 2 other people were interested in it.

          • I got Australia through DVD from my library system this past summer. I haven’t been lucky with the other ones yet.

          • Diego Armando

            That is good. My library system is pretty great (mostly since they can draw from around 10 different locations) but they unfortunately did not have Palau.

          • DrVanNostrand

            The siren call of Boston Rob.

          • Sylvisual

            I’d like to think they read our site and really wanted to know what this “purple rock” was all about.

          • Diego Armando

            One can dream.

          • Other Scott

            I still have like 10 to go too.

          • Other Scott

            Yeah, One World is probably the best game ever. Palau is more physically dominant (not that it was all Tom was good at) where Kim was socially dominant.

          • Prom King

            She was pretty physically dominant too.

          • Other Scott

            Yeah, and Tom was pretty socially dominant. My point was Kim is the best social player ever (give or take Rob on his 4th go of the game), and Palau Tom was the best physical player.

          • Prom King

            Ah, okay. Yeah her social game was perfect. I’d put it on the display shelf with JT and Earl as the ultimate examples.

          • Kemper Boyd

            Redemption Island is the Boston Rob pleasure cruise, there is little to no reason to watch it. No intrigue, no suspense.

          • But, what if you liked Romber when you were 14?

          • Kemper Boyd

            Are you still 14? If not prioritise all other seasons first watch over it.

          • Assistant Dragon Slayer

            Y’know what, I’m going to the be the contrarian here and say that you should watch both seasons. Like it or not, they really were the two most dominant winners ever (I’m discounting Tom in Palau a bit because it was really a partnership with Ian until the endgame; Ian flamed out so badly that you forget that). I’m not saying they should be at the top of your list or anything, but you should watch both seasons back to back, Redemption Island first and One World second. That will really throw into sharp relief how they let Boston Rob bowl with the kiddie bumpers up and from halfway down the lane.

          • Thanks for the tip!

          • In defense of Redemption Island, whilst it gets a lot of flack from long-term Survivor fans, it’s pretty much a perfect season to show to someone as a masterclass of ‘this is how to play Survivor’. It’s the season I’d show to a newbie.

          • corndogshuffle

            There is still time for you to make the right choice… skip both.

          • Diego Armando

            I would only recommend it if you have a desire to see one of the most dominant games of all time. That is all the season has in its favor.

          • DrVanNostrand

            I agree with everything but less charismatic winner. I think Kim is one of the most charismatic players of all time, but I do agree that Rob is better TV, if that’s the kind of charisma you’re referring to.

          • *Less* charismatic winner?! How. Dare. You.

          • Diego Armando

            I stand by my statement. What I meant is that Boston Rob is much better at playing for the camera and giving confessionals (he has been doing this for much longer). I don’t think Kim had that skill or interest in showing that skill. She is one of the 6 best winners in my opinion, but Rob can do a much better job at carrying a season.

          • Prom King

            For me, Kim was a robot. But I’m the kind of person who prefers watching a robot than watching a repulsively smug Boston Rob on his fourth time. I prefer Kim’s robo-confessionals to Rob’s corny tryhard confessionals.

            But in the end I’m talking about my two least favorite seasons, so Eh shrug who cares.

          • Alycia Swift

            A lot of the female winners don’t have that skill either or are not interested in showing it. Danni did that as well.

          • Diego Armando

            That is true. I do like both of them.

          • Purple Rock Emma

            Less charismatic, my ass.

          • Alkanarra

            Yeah, I know I said you should before, but, uh… I was very much mistaken.

            What DrVanNostrand said: watch it for Kim. She’s not showy about it, but it’s still unbelievable that she gets away with everything so effortlessly. In a very, very boring way.

          • Kemper Boyd

            If I were you I’d watch it purely to watch the greatest display from a first time player and possibly the best winner full stop.

          • Yeah…I know I have to watch it.

          • Something Quirky

            Just skip the bits when Kim isn’t on screen pre-Colton evac.

          • Fun fact: That episode was entitled “Thanks for the Souvenir”.

        • sharculese

          Yeah, someone, I think Jeff, asked Colton what he was gonna do with the idol.

          • Purplerockmatt

            Alicia I think wanted it and possibly asked

          • Diego Armando

            Yeah, it was hilarious when she did not get it.

        • Purple Rock Emma

          It also might not have been top of mind.

    • sharculese

      To be fair, Neal was having an emotional moment and nobody mentioned it in the scene, so maybe it straight didn’t occur to him?

      • Alkanarra

        Yeah, you could tell when they were like “in three hours you could lose the leg” that it changed his mind about things real quick.

      • Sylvisual

        To be fair, Neal was showing emotions. It was a new experience.

        • sharculese

          We didn’t see it on the show, mostly because we didn’t see him on the show, but I always assumed Neal was a guy who has too many emotions.

          • Ms_Woozah

            There were a lot of man tears in his Ponderosa video.

          • Understandable. That’s gotta be tough. It’s not like getting on Survivor is easy, and to be denied a chance to play out what might be your only opportunity is pretty heartbreaking.

          • sharculese

            And of course now Neal is watching this season play out and thinking, “yeah… I’m not getting asked back.”

        • DrVanNostrand

          “What is this salty discharge??”

    • Violina23

      I was wondering if he was just preoccupied with what was going down. He doesn’t seem like the vindictive type to screw over Aubrey that way.

      • Other Scott

        I almost feel like there was no way he couldn’t do it that wasn’t in plain sight of everybody. I think not having an idol is better than having an idol and everyone knowing about it.

        • Hornacek

          On EW.com Jeff confirmed that Neal could have given his idol to anyone. He was out of the game at that point, but it was not a situation he was expecting (like getting voted out at tribal). He didn’t say whether they mentioned the idol to Neal as they got up to leave, so maybe Neal was so overcome he just forgot about the idol.

    • Other Scott

      Colton’s closest ally was probably Jonas, who wasn’t on his tribe at the time. I mean, would you give an idol to Alecia?

      • Hornacek

        In the swap tribe, Colton and Jonas were on the same tribe. But his closest ally appeared to be Alecia.

        • Alkanarra

          This all the way. He was working with the guys because he had to and because they were too stupid to see what a flipper he would be, but he spent every single moment of his confessionals whining about wanting to play with the girls. He was 100% going with them.

          • Hornacek

            This, plus he recognized that Jonas seemed to be a decent person. In Alecia he recognized someone as awful as himself, someone that would laugh along with him when he said “Go throw yourself in a fire!” to another player.

        • Other Scott

          Right you are.

    • Alycia Swift

      I heard on RHAP that he tweeted that he had yarn/string/pieces of cloth in his pocket when Cydney saw him. Maybe he did not have the idol with him at that time?

      • Hornacek

        Where did he get yarn from???

        • Alycia Swift

          No idea. It was something he tweeted and Stephen read it. Maybe collected from things around camp or from bags. Maybe the clue was tied with yarn. It might just have been string. I did not look the tweet up.

  • DrVanNostrand

    Tai is such a great guy, even bacteria don’t want to fuck with him.

    • Was I the only one who was like “It’s not Tai!!!”

      • Purplerockmatt

        did you not read the liveblog?!? I feel so betrayed

        • I did, but I forgot that point. Sorry Matt!

          • Purplerockmatt

            yeah you’ll be sorry, you’ll all be sorry!

          • I remember that you said you were 5’7.

          • Purplerockmatt

            oh sure the important stuff

          • But that should prove that I read your blog, right?

          • Purplerockmatt

            yeah i was just teasing you

          • All right. You get a pass.

      • DrVanNostrand

        I think we all felt that way.

    • Violina23

      He kills bacteria with kindness?

      • DrVanNostrand

        The bacteria were like: “Ooooh!!! That’s a nasty cut. We could infect the shit out of that!” Then they saw him playing with the chicken and couldn’t bring themselves to do it.

        • turgid_legume

          They were about to munch down on a feast when Tai’s cute little non-threatening white blood cells show up wearing glasses and offering to show them around, and they were like “we can’t eat this guy, let’s move on.”

      • sharculese

        Tai is upset by the idea that a living thing laid down its life for him.

      • gouis

        They’re the opposite of plants. If you say really nice things to them they just wither away into nothing.

  • Mike Hirsch

    I kind of sort of wanted Dr. Rupert to be Rupert Rupert.

    • sharculese

      Oh god, nobody suggest to Rupert that he could be a doctor. That’s a global pandemic in the making.

      • Mike Hirsch

        I can see him discussing a potential bone marrow transplant with a patient’s spouse, saying they have a high percentage of being a match since they’re a blood relative. Should be fine.

        • Prom King

          I can see him discussing a potential bone marrow transplant with a patient’s spouse, saying they have a high percentage of being a match since they’re a blood relative.

          …in a cookie monster voice.

      • turgid_legume

        It couldn’t be any worse than Rupert participating in a gubernatorial debate.

    • DrVanNostrand

      Could anyone take him seriously if he told them that they’d have to leave the game or they might die, if he said it in Rupert voice?

      • sharculese

        I couldn’t take it seriously if he said it in non-Rupert voice.

        • prettyboyprobst

          Rupert as a fake doctor would work great to lay some pathos on these medevac-scenes, so Probst doesn’t have to carry it all on his own.

          But I liked the real Dr. Rupert, too.

      • Hornacek

        “I’m sorry, if you stay in the game you could lose that leg. ROAR!”

      • Sylvisual

        The last time Rupert Boneham got excited about blood on the show, he got voted out.

      • Prom King

        Damn I just made that same joke. Why didn’t I scroll down just one centimeter first, argh.

        • Trust me, we’ve all been there.

    • andythesaint

      I think they did that in the Israeli edition.

      • gouis

        They did and it was incredible. Rupert was terrible at everything and the tribe couldn’t hide their disappointment.

        • Hornacek

          How do you say “THIS is our reward?” in Israeli?

          • gouis

            ‘What a shlemiel’

          • Hornacek

            Schlemazel
            Hasenpfeffer incorporated

          • DrVanNostrand

            I believe the term you’re looking for is Oy Vey!

          • Hornacek

            Oy gevalt!

    • Ms. Sweaterfan

      -Thanks for coming in to interview for the position of Survivor Doctor. What’s your name?
      -Dr. Rupert–
      -YOU’RE HIRED

      • Hornacek

        “One more question. Can you grow a beard?”
        “Uh, I guess so, but why …”
        “And put on this shirt.”

        • Alycia Swift

          “And ROAR”
          “And find a snake and call it Balboa”

          • Hornacek

            Oh man, I had forgotten about Balboa! More ridiculousness from the saga of Rupert.

  • DrVanNostrand

    So was Aubry the big winner tonight? She was the target. There was at least one conversation that she was targeted because she was the least obvious target, and would be the least likely to be saved by an idol. Now, do they just go after Debbie because she’s annoying and playing a little too hard? I suppose any time you’re saved, you’re the big winner, but Aubry may have gotten quite a bit of time from this evac.

    • Purplerockmatt

      she was also the target only because of the idol, next week it would be someone different from the brains

    • Other Scott

      I’m so confused on winner’s edits at this point. Production’s just messing with us.

      • Kemper Boyd

        I’m not great at sussing it out when it’s not Mike levels of obvious, so I have no idea what will happen. Which is both exciting and plays into the notion that this post-merge is a shit show.

      • Diego Armando

        I really have no idea who is going to win. I have narrowed it down to everyone except Nick, Joe and Julia. I’m not even ready to throw Jasle down there, since I could see this season devolving to a point where he has a chance.

    • Alycia Swift

      And she had a potential winner’s quote – the one about making your own path (although some of the rest was weird).

  • Diego Armando

    I have posted a new (short) review at https://robertsreviewsandmusings.wordpress.com/. Please feel free to leave a comment or suggestion on how to improve. Thank you.

  • Hornacek

    Random thoughts:

    I guess Jeff was too busy to come to the beach with the merge boat so he sent two … interns?

    Michelle’s childhood dream was to make the merge. She must not have been an imaginative child.

    So is Debbie “toilet paper” and Neal “toilets”? Or is it the other way around?

    Maybe it’s just editing but it looks like Scot waited until he was talking to both Jason and Nick to tell Jason about Tai’s idol.

    That Tai/Debbie alliance-conversation was *weird*. Reminded me of Rudy on All-Stars. “Hey, you’re within my line of sight. We should be in an alliance together.”

    When Jeff was asking about all the injuries I thought he was going to offer free medical if you sit out the challenge.

    Even the players out of the challenge are laughing at Jeff’s “balls” comments.

    I really hope Neal doesn’t reach into the family jewels.

    “So what do you want to do?” Wow, it’s like Nick read all our comments last week and decided not to manslplain when talking to Michele. “So this is my thinking. We’re going with Brawn.” Oh. Never mind.

    Jeff makes a house call and … did Cydney braid Jason’s hair???

    Doctor Rupert!

    So it’s Russian roulette with Dr. Rupert. Which patient will get a failing diagnosis?

    Neal equates his journey with the show with Jeff’s journey with the show. Jeff instantly becomes interested in what Neal is saying.

    Neal didn’t try to slip the idol in Aubry’s pocket while he hugged her goodbye? (Phrasing!)

    “Sometimes you get dysentery and die.” Wow, Aubry got dark there!

    It was just editing, but it looked like after Neal was looked at, Jeff and Dr. Rupert weren’t interested in looking at anyone else. “We got one evac, we’re done here!”

    Poor Nick. Won immunity for nothing.

    Well, I figured Brawn would have won the vote, or at least still be in control next week, because (SPOILER) according to my PVR, next week’s episode is titled “The Jocks vs. The Pretty People”. Ugh.

    • SpicyMayoJaySimpson

      There’s nothing like a ball challenge to make me ask “Are we seriously not doing phrasing?”

      • DrVanNostrand

        Jeff was being too obvious this time. It’s better when he doesn’t make it so obvious that he’s in on it.

        • prettyboyprobst

          Agreed. There was so much ball-talk that my favorite Jeffrey-double-entendre quote of the week got totally overshadowed: “A little bit of movement is o.k., but you have to keep it under control!” – or something to that effect. It was glorious.

    • DrVanNostrand

      Where was Debbie getting her ebony and ivory, and salt and pepper references? Aubry had already voted out the black guy.

      • sharculese

        Let me explain it to you: Debbie is a crazy person.

        • Hornacek

          DEBBIE – CRAZY PERSON

          You know it’s coming.

          • Nah, probably not. It’s one of those things that you really don’t need to hang a lantern on.

          • Hornacek

            Are you forgetting …

            “I used to be a part-time model.” (2 second later) DEBBIE – PART-TIME MODEL

          • Purple Rock Emma

            Yeah, that’s the same.

          • Alycia Swift

            I was waiting for the editors to put “toilet bowl” or “toilet paper” next to her name.

      • Hornacek

        Debbie was probably thinking of the SNL skit with Frank Sinatra and Stevie Wonder.

      • What about Cydney?

        • Purplerockmatt

          did she have a confessional this episode?

          • I thought she did after she saw Neal’s bulge.

          • Purplerockmatt

            yeah that was a brief one that transitioned into her talking out loud

          • Does that count?

          • Purplerockmatt

            i guess?

          • I don’t know the rules of confessionals yet.

          • DrVanNostrand

            For someone who seems to be playing well, she’s being ignored pretty badly.

          • Purplerockmatt

            she is one of my picks for the third evac

          • Purplerockmatt

            whenever that happens that is

        • DrVanNostrand

          As the only black person left, I thought of her, but it just didn’t make sense in the context of that conversation.

    • Diego Armando

      I felt bad for Tyson and Keith when they did not get to keep their immunity. Nick I could care less about.

      • Other Scott

        It feels like Nick’s by far the biggest threat to win a bunch of immunities at this point anyways.

        • sharculese

          Tocantins Tyson was absolutely a huge threat to go on an immunity run. Which is precisely why the first time he didn’t have immunity, Stephen was like ‘let’s vote off that guy.’

    • Ms. Sweaterfan

      I thought it was super weird that Scot spilled the beans about the idol with Nick around. Although maybe there just wasn’t a time when Nick wasn’t around? It felt like Nick was attempting what I think was Keith’s strategy from Second Chances: hang out in the background of every shot and then just casually stroll into a strategy huddle like you were always part of that alliance.

    • Saturday Night Palsy

      Wait! Today’s not Wednesday!

      • Hornacek

        I still don’t know what this is in reference to.

        • Saturday Night Palsy

          Just me missing the whole live-blog. The show was pushed back to midnight in San Antonio due to the Spurs game.

          • Hornacek

            Ok, I thought you were referring to one of my comments in my Random Thoughts post and couldn’t figure out which one it was.

  • “Fun” Fact: All 6 of the Brains have had some form of medical treatment now. They join 4/6 of Brawn members (excluding Darnell and Alecia) and 2/6 of Beauty members (excluding Michele, Anna, Nick, and Julia).

    • sharculese

      Wait, when did Joe have to talk to medical?

      • Diego Armando

        Probably after he got hit on the head with a block last week.

        • sharculese

          Oh, right, duh.

        • Hornacek

          He also got a consultation from Dr. Obama for his hand.

      • Last week, when the bricks hit his head. He also had a doctor lance his infected finger.

        • Sylvisual

          Well crap. If I had remembered that my prediction would have gone to another wrong person!

    • Hornacek

      “Infections and injuries are attracted to our LARGE MEDULA OBLONGATAS!”

    • Ms_Woozah

      Their beach must have been poisoned.

      • Other Scott

        I’m pretty sure there was some pretty contagious staph infection going around there.

  • sharculese

    I’m listening to Know it Alls, and Rob’s level of discomfort with the term ‘holding,’ while not as hilarious as when he couldn’t say ‘vagina,’ is still pretty adorable.

  • Ms_Woozah

    Now I want to play Oregon Trail again. Thanks, Aubry.

    • sharculese

      Just make sure you get the Hiram the Blacksmith mod.

    • DrVanNostrand

      I found some kind of copy of the original that someone had gotten to work on Windows a few years ago. It wasn’t great.

      • Violina23

        There was a website that had really great versions of the old DOS games that run in browsers… I’m going to look it up and promptly relive 4th grade…

  • Alycia Swift

    Anyone else wondering when the spikes were going to sprout from the one in Neal’s back? It so looked like something from a sci fi movie.

    • Hornacek

      Would have been nice if he had transformed into the Abomination from The Incredible Hulk movie.

      • Alycia Swift

        Later, as I was trying to fall asleep, I imagined Jeff Goldblum’s The Fly – when he first started sprouting hair/spine.

        • Hornacek

          Gottliebfly

          • Alycia Swift

            Yes!!!

    • Ms. Sweaterfan

      The suspense as he took off his shirt was definitely cinematic. We saw Jeff and the doc’s reactions first before they finally showed us the wound. I loved that even the doctor looked disgusted in that scene.

  • turgid_legume

    Fuck everything about this episode. Fuck Cambodia. Fuck MRSA. There’s no way to even make lemonade out of this situation, it looks like a straight Pagonging of ex-brains and then a showdown between repulsive people. Usually my Wednesdays are full of happiness no matter what happens, but not this week.

    I was at least slightly amused by Jeff’s stupid face when he realized how fucked this season was going to be after getting a look at everybody’s wounds.

    • Prom King

      You better not be right.

      My only hope is that I think since Probst would probably love what you just described and is usually apathetic to female winners, that his lack of enthusiasm for this season means that doesn’t happen. I am really crossing my fingers here.

      • turgid_legume

        I’m thinking that Probst was down on this season regardless of the winner because it reminded him how close they came to killing or permanently maiming a player, which would probably spell the end for his beloved show (slash personal income slash personal identity slash life’s work.)

        • Mike Hirsch

          Back to Rock n’Roll Jeopardy with you, Probst!

        • andythesaint

          Dammit. I was going to float this theory tonight and now must credit someone else. Because I think there’s a good chance that the lack of enthusiasm for this season is simply because this might’ve been their most difficult production ever. Hard to be excited for that.

          • Purplerockmatt

            it’s the Guatemala effect!

          • Assistant Dragon Slayer

            My working theory for Probst’s lack of enthusiasm has been either a) a woman wins or b) a horrible final 2 (or final 3). In a weird way it’s reassuring that it may simply be c) it would be unseemly to hype a season with this much suffering. Of course as we all know It Can Be Two Things (a and c or b and c).

    • “Usually my Wednesdays are full of happiness no matter what happens…”

      Did you watch the Will/Shirin stuff? I had to move therapy to Thursday mornings.

      • turgid_legume

        You’re right, those were an awful run of episodes to slog through. And come to think of it, large swaths of SJDS were rage inducing as well. So yeah, I guess Survivor disappoints a lot more than I care to admit.

        • Diego Armando

          We did have Cambodia though and nothing can take that away from us.

    • andythesaint

      Yeah, Jeff’s face was so telling. He was processing in the moment how this whole season has gone to shit.

      • turgid_legume

        I thought it would be funny to make a clip of that moment in super slo-mo. I think it came out quite well.

        • Alycia Swift

          Hilarious.

      • Hornacek

        Is there a Sad Jeff meme like the current Sad Affleck one?

      • Diego Armando

        It was all “So this is where we have fallen”.

    • gouis

      I wouldn’t be so pessimistic. First of all it might not be a Pagonging after the first few votes. I imagine Debbie and Joe are goners, but Aubry still has a chance since she was last on their hit-list (they were only voting for her tonight because they thought she’d be the least likely to have the idol played for her).

      Second, there are still non-terrible people left. Really only Nick and Jason are terrible. Cydney, Tai, and non-Jason Scot are great. And Michele and Julia are not actively offensive.

      • Scot was great for the 2 episodes when he didn’t think he was in a power position. The second Peter was gone and he felt secure in a majority, the douche was back. I don’t think Jason can be blamed for this one.

        • That’s a great observation. I’m going to try to use that in the podcast (and credit you, of course).

          • Feel free! I wouldn’t want Scot to get off [bad pun alert] scott-free with the ‘Jason is a bad influence’ excuse. It’s almost worse knowing he can apparently turn it off at will when he wants – he just chooses not to most of the time.

        • Alycia Swift

          My thinking exactly but you said it better.

      • prettyboyprobst

        I’m not pessimistic either. Sure, there could be a Pagonging, but provided that Julia isn’t fully on board with the Brawn and Michele can win some influence over her in the next three days, I think it would be in Beauty’s best interest to get rid of one or two Brawn first, lest they + Tai gain too much power.
        I’m currently on the fence if it would be better in this scenario to target Scot first (gets rid of big immunity-threat, splits two “power-couples”, but risks alienating Tai) or Kyleson/Cydney.

  • Other Scott

    I really don’t like merge episodes nowadays. I don’t mind strategy, but the strategy seems to always be “We’re in the middle, who should we side with” for an hour, which is incredibly, incredibly dull.

    Plus infection medivacs, while I understand they need to happen, are by far the least interesting type. Like the Joe Dowdle Tocantins merge episode was equally anti-climactic.

    • Prom King

      Get off of my lawn!

    • Ms. Sweaterfan

      Very anticlimactic. In fact I thought this was one of the more boring merge eps in recent memory. It reminded me a bit of SJDS where there was a whole bunch of strategy talk that bounced around so much that it was hard to really follow, capped off with someone fairly irrelevant leaving out of left field. Not a fan. Plus it looks like all the strategic connections could be reconfigured again next week anyway.

      • Diego Armando

        SJSD was the worst merge episode since it just wasted everyone’s time. At least Neal and Joe (Tocantins) did not leave the game willingly.

  • Side Character

    I totally forgot about Scot carrying Kyle (Jason, whatever) onto the beach. That’s the best that either of them have looked so far on the season. More fun, less douche.
    I feel bad for Julia. Seems like she is not gonna get very far now. No confessionals, a third-place finish in an immuinty challenge with nary a comment about it? She’s doomed. Maybe we should call her Jefra now, or ‘the other one’.
    Nick wasn’t as terrible this episode as in the last one. Still kinda want to punch him, but less so now than before.
    Tough luck for Neal–I feel bad for him having to go out like that. I would not mind if the show actually put some effort into making sure that evacs can be avoided in the first place. If they don’t call attention to this stuff, then it’s gonna get worse, and it’s gonna cost money. A bandage would save you much more money and time than letting a contestant’s infection get worse without doing anything until it’s become life-threatening and you have to take him to a hospital. Get to it before it gets your players, show. If someone dies on this show, it’s over. And we’ll have nothing worthwhile to complain about on Wednesdays anymore (unless you watch other shows, but really, who here does that?).

    • DrVanNostrand

      Even more than bandages. Didn’t Aubry get antibiotics for a less advanced wound? They needed to catch Neal’s earlier and get him the same. Neal’s not a doctor, and he probably has very little experience with nasty infected wounds. But Survivor should have a lot of experience, and they’ve got people following him around practically 24/7.

      • Kemper Boyd

        Neal’s was also on his joint, if an infection gets into your joint you can lose the limb pretty quickly. It’s very similar to Penner’s evac.

        • Alycia Swift

          And it was opened. Aubry’s was not very deep and was contained. But that does not mean that she won’t be #3. I hope not.

      • Hornacek

        On EW.com Jeff says that medical checks out the players before and after each challenge. Which is strange because sometimes Jeff will say “We’re gonna have medical take a look at that” after a challenge, but if medical examines every player anyway then why would he say that? I guess just for the viewers’ benefit.

        • andythesaint

          You answered your own question by the end there. Good job by you.

          • Hornacek

            Finally, some validation!

      • In one of Neal’s exit interviews he said he was on antibiotics from when the knee thing first happened; they just don’t show it usually I guess. And the antibiotics didn’t work anyway.

        • Hornacek

          Nick’s antibiotics were just sugar pills. He was in the control group.

    • Diego Armando

      I know they put some form of bandages on Jasle’s sunburned shoulders in the first couple of episodes.

  • itsafuckingSTICK

    I just knew that Neal’s ice cream pants wouldn’t protect him.

  • Purple Rock Emma

    “8:31 Ah the challenge that Emma did at the Survivor exhibit. She crushed it to [sic] (or so I choose to remember)”

    I did indeed crush it! The guy behind the front desk said I did better than anyone he’d seen besides the cast members who had visited.

    • turgid_legume

      You could be the Survivor contestant that was a former Survivor blogger that doesn’t suck!

      • Violina23

        I’d pick her for my fantasy team!

        (I realize that, based on my current record, that might not sound like the endorsement I mean it to be…)

        • It would probably be much worse if your husband and Survivor-watching friend said they’d pick her for their fantasy teams. Their track record is even worse.

          Also, I wouldn’t expect a ton of immunity points from her. Particularly if there were a gross food-eating challenge.

          • Purple Rock Emma

            I would pull a Kimmi and not participate.

          • Hornacek

            Viewers: “Look at Emma trying to set the chickens free.”

          • Sylvisual

            Or just a food eating challenge.

          • Violina23

            Underestimate her… it’s exactly what she wants…

      • Hornacek

        Which BvBvB team would Emma be on?

        • Diego Armando

          I’d say Beauty, so people can massively underestimate her game skills.

          • Purple Rock Emma

            Awww.

            We actually had this discussion in the staff chat. I didn’t go to enough of a smart person school and I don’t have a smart person job. That just might not be the season theme for me.

          • Diego Armando

            I think you could fit in Brains, I just thought Beauty could lead to a more advantageous situation for you.

          • Purple Rock Emma

            I’ll take it.

        • turgid_legume

          Not going there, unless you’re talking about Survivor 41: Bloggers vs. Bartenders vs. Bookkeepers.

          • Dammit, I know what’s coming…

          • turgid_legume

            Or: Baggage handlers vs. Broadcasters vs. Bankers: One of them lugs shit around, one of them is full of shit, and one of them is made of shit.

          • sharculese

            Ah bartender, Survivor’s polite code for ‘failed actor.’

          • Diego Armando

            I’m reminded of the definitions of actor and actress I remember Roger Ebert citing one of his reviews (he did not come up with theses):

            Actor: A waiter.
            Actress: Any woman in or around Hollywood not actively engaging in prostitution with many exceptions.

    • Hornacek

      Purple Rock Emma – future Dream Team member.

    • Purplerockmatt

      (pssst he says that to everyone)

      • Hornacek

        Her boyfriend slipped the guy $10 to say that to her.

      • Purple Rock Emma

        Not to the girl I was at the exhibit with!

  • this bear is tops blooby

    Whoo boy, Jason sure is a dick ain’t he?

    During the merge feast, Jason is seen spitting food out of his mouth while talking, picking his nose, and being obnoxious jerk all-around. That and his stuffing nerds in lockers comment, I just want him gone.

    Scot, not much better. That should be his description. Not much better.

    Scot and Jason have absolutely no sense in terms of strategy, but their idol “hunt” pretty much told us that.

    Oh, Debbie, playing way too hard. You just scared off two potential allies. Her game is screwed.

    She looked like a lizard when pressuring Tai to join up with her lizard army. Just say no Tai, say no!!!!

    Nick’s stock is rising. Very keen observer. And he wins immunity balancing his balls.

    Everyone had a riot with that challenge. Debbie couldn’t contain herself.

    Tai’s balls!

    Aubry, also very good at feeling out the situation…unless it concerns her!

    Wow, all those infections were pretty damn nasty. I wonder if a lot of them were staph infections, cause egadz, get them to a hospital stat.

    On that note so long Neal, that def blows.

    Aubry, “that sob left me hanging!” Way to bring it back to you Aubry, but yeah, you could def use that idol right about now.

    • turgid_legume

      The Debbie/Tai scene was awful on so many levels. How could she not read the body language that he was putting off? It just goes to show that getting a lot of airtime is not the same as getting a winner’s edit.

      • this bear is tops blooby

        She seemed like maybe she didn’t get enough sleep or sth, because it was so bizarrely forced for her to conduct that the way she did. Though throw in her growing arrogance, and maybe it makes a lot of sense. But yeeesh, pretty stupid on her part, plus it totally tanked her tribe.

  • andythesaint

    I was about as close as you can get to nailing a prediction without actually getting it right: Aubry was dead to rights. Neal wasted an idol.

    Le sigh.

    • Kemper Boyd

      I said Neal with an idol in his pocket but I did think that meant he’d be voted out.

  • Kemper Boyd

    This episode set up that this post-merge will be the shit show we were all worried about.
    I feel like Kyle/Scot are now definitely being set up for the comeuppance edit and Debbie now too.
    Is this spike in Nick’s visibility because he goes next week or could we see a small challenge run and him being slain when he doesn’t have immunity? I felt like winning wasn’t the best plan for him, he was the swing vote that no one was talking about getting out. He had safety and winning individual challenges early puts a target on you.

    • Ms. Sweaterfan

      The worst-case-scenarios are getting worse and worse at this point. We could legitimately get a Jason-Scot-Nick final three :'(

      • Kemper Boyd

        Nick is on my fantasy team so wouldn’t be too bad I guess…

    • prettyboyprobst

      Nick and Kyleson are all what’s left from my team, so an immunity-run would be very much appreciated. If he could find an idol and play it when his luck runs out, that would be swell as well.

      But even if he does none of that, I think he is relatively safe for the next few votes.

  • Kemper Boyd

    Question: If Neal had buried the idol and told Aubry where it was would she have been allowed possession of it when he was evac’d? If so, it’s proof again (along with people noticing it in his fucking pocket) that you always hide your idol.

    • turgid_legume

      Neil claims on twitter that he never kept the idol in his pocket and that it was string and fabric. Still, though, maybe avoid appearances of a bulge or at least be sure to visibly empty the string and fabric in view of everyone at camp.

      • Kemper Boyd

        Especially if you actually have an idol!

      • gouis

        Yeah it’s like what Stephen says about targeting someone. Once the idea is placed everyone is going to believe it, even if it’s true or not.

        • Hornacek

          Perception = truth

          • itsafuckingSTICK

            I’m hoping that Survivor season 78 will be broadcast in full, immersive stimsim-VR and it’ll be called “Survivor: Perception = Truth”.

          • Hornacek

            And it will be transmitted directly into your brain.

          • itsafuckingSTICK

            Hopefully it’ll be less intrusive than Jennifer’s brain-munching ear worm.

          • Hornacek

            Nom-nom-nom

      • Alycia Swift

        I was wrong about yarn but right about the other two.

      • Saturday Night Palsy

        He made a comment about “reaching into the family jewels” and whipping out the idol on the show. So… Guess that was where he kept it.

        • prettyboyprobst

          When you go to such lengths to hide your idol (good job, Neal), you probably should make sure there isn’t an idol-sized bulge in your pocket first.

    • Something Quirky

      It seems like she would have been, yeah.

  • Hornacek

    So at this point of the game, have both Liz and Peter been sent back home for surgery because of their wounds/infections? Maybe this is why Jeff brought Dr. Rupert to camp to give everyone a check-up?

    • Ms. Sweaterfan

      That was my thought after hearing that Pete was evac’ed post-game as well. Maybe the docs figured there was staph in the camp and they wanted to check everyone out. Interesting that the worst infections were all Brains…

    • Violina23

      Peter too? Was it also staph?

      • Hornacek

        From his EW.com exit interview:

        “I had to get surgery on my hand and back. I was out of it. From the game. I couldn’t even hold the machete to open a coconut. Right when I got off I was super-sick and I had an infection in my hand and my back and I had to get surgery on it.”

        • Violina23

          Geez. Brutal.

    • andythesaint

      I have the same thought.

    • Alycia Swift

      I wondered if most of the players getting staph infections were from the same beach (3/6 of original brains so far with the fourth injured (Aubry) and Scott, Tai’s were self-inflicted in a way), why did they go back to that beach for Second Chances. Or can they do something to the beach to clean it up the bacteria?

  • Each time Tai said over his scars were from a mango tree, I was like ‘Mhm ;)’. I distinctly remember him scraping his thighs reaching for an idol instead of using the stick. Honestly before anyone else got the idol the way it was meant to, i thought i’d be impossible to get the hidden immunity idol without possibly falling to your death. Still love you Tai.

    • The nice thing is that’s a great lie for Tai, since he’s clearly been getting mangoes as well. The only people that might realize why he would have been climbing a tree for other purposes are Jason and Scot (who know he has an idol), Cydney, and Neal (who obviously can’t say/do anything about it now).

    • prettyboyprobst

      Same here on all accounts. I thought that even if people had the right idea, it would be so hard to find something to be used as poles, that they’d lose patience and rather risk their lifes trying to climb the tree.

      • Hornacek

        I was saying the first couple of episodes that they should just cut down the tree but someone’s exit interview has said Production had stopped players from cutting down trees.

  • Ms. Sweaterfan

    Was anyone getting major flavors of Penner’s evac from Micronesia last night? Similar knee wound, similar speech from the doc about the infection possibly getting into the joint, similar tears and not wanting to go. I loved it. It actually kind of made Neal interesting for once.

  • gouis

    Welp, my ‘season of Debbie’ is all blown to shit now.

    Also, does anyone think that they gave them better treatment in Cambodia? There wasn’t really a change in the conditions where people last season shouldn’t have gotten just as bad infections.

    • I believe it might have even been stated publicly by Probst or Burnett that they definitely changed how they treated them for Cambodia after witnessing all the things that went wrong in Kaoh Rong. Particularly when you’ve got people coming back for a season you’ve dubbed Second Chance, you don’t want that chance ended for medical reasons.

      • gouis

        On KIA Stephen says they may have paid more attention to giving the Survivors instructions on how to keep it clean, but that they didn’t really treat the wounds actively.

    • Other Scott

      Some of these infections are contagious though right? The brains tribe basically got hammered with everyone but Debbie having significant infection, whereas Tai’s much worse scrape seemed to clear up.

      I think it’s less a matter of place and more a matter of time and exposure.

      • I wonder if there was some sort of bacteria that was specific to the Brains beach – Tai never left Beauty and his were healing fine; Liz, Peter, Aubry, Joe (we saw his finger last week) and Neal were all on Brain beach originally, and of those left at the swap Neal and Debbie (apparently unaffected) were the only ones to stay there.

        It could simply be that the Beauty beach had the much better living environment, and your chances of recovering form the infection were much better there than on Brains.

        • Alycia Swift

          Debbie – maybe her not drinking filtered water was the thing to do. Or maybe her looking at the water scared the bacteria.

          • prettyboyprobst

            It’s possible there is a delicate balance of dangerous bacteria at work that keeps Debbie relatively healthy for now.

            (disclaimer: I do not know how human bodies work)

      • Hornacek

        Typhoid Debbie

    • Marlene

      I know that PeihGee had a staph infection during last season. She tweeted about it.

  • Ms. Sweaterfan

    Debbie: I really like you, Tai.
    Me, at home on my couch: JOIN THE CLUB DEBBIE

    • Hornacek

      She was hypnotaized.

      I’ll show myself out.

      • Kemper Boyd

        Maybe PR Staff need to start giving time outs.

        • Purple Rock Emma

          I am totally open to enforcing a no pun/dad joke policy.

          • Hornacek

            (kicks dirt) You’re no fun anymore.

      • Violina23

        All glory to the hypnotai!

  • Mike Hirsch

    So, would any of the males aside from Tai have a chance at winning if they reach final tribal? I’m thinking that Tai is the only one who would have a shot, and everyone else, probably not, unless maybe they were going up against Debbie, and only Debbie?

    • andythesaint

      A lot of people seemed to want to team up with Nick. So he might not be THAT disliked to the point where people wouldn’t vote for him.

  • prettyboyprobst

    What a difference an episode makes: I think it’s safe to say that both Debbie and Scot were the biggest surprises up until now in terms of exceeding the preseason expectations of their gameplay – and both came crushing down last night. Although Steven and Rob made good points that spilling the beans about Neal’s and Tai’s idols to Nick could be a decent move for Scot himself, still, there are so many unnecessary risks coming with that approach, that I think he should have gone differently about it. And that’s not even talking about him being all worked up about the last vote despite coming out on top of it and putting off Nick and Michele immediately.
    Debbie’s misjudgements were even more obvious and cringeworthy, but I say this in her defense: Maybe it’s not so easy to find a moment to talk to Tai without other Brawn or Beauties around, so she felt a need to act swiftly when the opportunity presented itself on that morning. I think she had the right idea, but like Aubrey mentioned at that point, lacked the finesse in wording her message, and putting him on the spot in front of her entire alliance almost has to backfire – I was surprised Tai wasn’t more pretending there, maybe he was still sleepy, too.

    Speaking of the most adorable Tai, did everybody notice the Chicken was atually tied to Tai? I only saw that on a rewatch.

    As for the waterfelon, she might no longer be in control, masterminding behind the scenes, but I hope she sticks around for a good while. because her confessionals are still gold. The one right before the intro had me thinking of Frank Underwood’s fourth wall breaking scenes in HoC, so elaborate and oozing with confidence.
    And Nick, although clearly disturbed by her horny R-rolling and general loudness, seemed more concerned with her having to much control in the merged tribe.