Survivor NZ Episode 7 & 8 Recap

It should be noted that the author’s football team won the FA Cup on Saturday so she is in a fan-bloody-tastic mood and Survivor NZ is looking good again through her rose tinted glasses.

Episode 7

We enter the seventh episode of Survivor NZ with Shannon on Redemption Island waiting to join Mogoton after their trip to tribal council. What doesn’t make it easy is the castaway who she is replacing is her closest ally Georgia. She needs to either not lose another immunity challenge or get herself in with one of the pairs. What might work for her is she has expressed that she isn’t a huge fan of Mike (and I mean who is at this point?)

Shay is in trouble at Hermosa. She always was going to be after Tom and now he’s found an alliance of likeminded individuals; a dreaded all-male alliance and he’s not going to rock the boat to try and save her.

The Reward Challenge is a hero challenge. In which Avi jumps on a seesaw and launch sandbags into a net better than Lee. He wins his tribe chocolate.

Shannon is slowly trying to build her position with Mogoton she gets a good read early that this isn’t a group of people who appreciate strategy or scrambling so she talks to Sala about trust and Bara about being sorry. But Barb is one to hold a grudge and she’s still unhappy Shannon had the audacity to be 5th in an alliance with power rather than sit with Barb and Nate as the first three to go.
Nate decides it time for him to godfather Shannon. So Nate gives Shannon a nice talk about how useful she could be as a mole into the other alliance post merge; which overall is the best thing Shannon can sell to this lot as to why she should be kept. She should be saying Tom is a lost cause; if you keep me I can work within their alliance to find ways we can destroy them. Whether it’s what she decides to do or not doesn’t really matter.

The Redemption Duel is Broken China. Izzy and Georgia must stack dishware on a platform whilst holding it steady with the other hand. It doesn’t go on very long , on the 5th item they both drop within seconds of each other. Georgia was just after Izzy and she stays alive.

Post Duel we hear about Mike and Lee’s plans to throw the next challenge to get rid of Shay and keep Shannon around. Which all in all makes a lot of sense but Mike is still a douche about it in confessional.

Episode 7 Edgic

Gouis who has never watched a moment has sniffed out Obvious Winner Avi’s obvious winner’s edit.

Episode 8

An even numbered episode in Survivor NZ means something important. That someone will be voted out of the game and onto Redemption Island. Let’s see if Mogoton throw a challenge to vote out Shay or Hermosa decide it’s time to get rid of Shannon.

Our pre-credit scene shows Georgia feeling sick and wishing she was back in the game; is that a return from Redemption to the game I smell?

Over at Hermosa, Shannon has worked her magic on Sala and he believes she is with them 100%. She has also become very close with Avi. Slowly Shannon is using her social skills to get herself up from 5th at Hermosa towards the top.

It’s challenge time, Barb says she is good at puzzles but hilariously thinks she sucks at everything. The boys from Hermosa are doing a “I’m good at Sudoku” level terrible job at pretending to try in this challenge. Yet Mogoton catch up because Shannon was right, Barb is not good at puzzle but Shannon is no good either. Eventually Shannon and Barb get it after Mike and Jak just stand still to let them figure it out. Hermosa wins immunity and it looks like it’s curtains for Shay. Shannon cries, which is made sadder by the fact that the other team were throwing it so hard.

Sala and Nate sniffed out the blatant challenge throw by Mogoton and Sala knows Shay is in a lot of trouble.

Shay goes to work on Tom and Jak about how strong Mike and Lee are. She’s right of course but it’s doubtful it’ll help. Tom offers up a plan to Mike to vote with Shay so he can say he stayed true. Then post-merge he can be a mole with Avi and Sala and take info back to the boys. Mike is not excited by the idea that his name would be written down twice.
It’s basically exactly Shannon and Nate’s plan for Shannon post merge. Survivor NZ: Mole v Mole.

Tribal goes exactly as you’d imagine. After a round of cocky answers from the group Shay is voted out.

Episode 8 Edgic

Take a look for yourselves, it’s pretty obvious that Georgia has this thing won, Redemption cannot stand in her way.

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Kemper Boyd became a fan of Survivor after watching Cook Islands because of all the press about the theme, she managed to watch every season by the start of Fiji and has been watching and rewatching ever since. Oh and she's super British so that explains the extra U's in words.

Favourite seasons: HvV, Pearl Islands, Cook Islands, Micronesia, SJDS

Favourite players: Sandra, Kim, Courtney, Parvati, Yul
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  • gouis

    They have RI in the first season? Ugh. Did Survivor Australia also have RI?

    Also looking at that edgic I’m calling Obvious Winner Avi.

    • Kemper Boyd

      No RIs in Australia but it also had 55 days and 24 people.
      NZ has 40 days and 16 people and it had tribal for both tribes on night one.

    • Assistant Dragon Slayer

      I think RI is a way to justify having an otherwise throwback season (no idols, no twists) but also airing two episodes per week (duel in one episode, tribal in the other). Survivor AU justified two/three episodes per week (kind of) through the sheer number of twists.

  • Alkanarra

    So what I gotta ask since I can’t tell from reading the recaps…. is it any good? Better/worse than the Australian version? If compared to an American season, any similarities?

    • Neutral Username

      It’s not great. Australia at least had crazy twists, this is just real slow going. The worst part is that its two episodes a week. We spend a lot of time watching challenges. It felt like the Hero challenge wasn’t edited at all. The low budget also hurts. It’s hard not to compare to American production values. There aren’t really any superstar personalities either, so it’s all a little dull at the moment.

      • Kemper Boyd

        100% agree.

      • HBO CEO of Tits

        Yeah the personalities generally range from dishwater to dirty dishwater.

        • Kemper Boyd

          to “huh, he’s still there”

      • indescribable hat

        How does it compare to Survivor Brooklyn?

        • Kemper Boyd

          I can’t watch Survivor Brooklyn.

    • Assistant Dragon Slayer

      @guestrite:disqus’s take on Survivor NZ is exactly right, and I’ll add that the cast reminds me of the Australian Survivor cast if you removed all of the schemers like Phoebe and Nick (and also the eccentrics like Kristie). The only genuine schemer was the first boot and the two people who come closest to playing the game hard (but aren’t really) are on Redemption Island for their trouble. I haven’t seen Africa, but this is what I imagine Africa to be.

      • Alkanarra

        Unless related to Big Tom, comparing something to Africa is never a good sign.

  • Neutral Username

    I think Shannon’s South African accent could technically be considered a hate crime.

    • HBO CEO of Tits

      She looks like a Wallace and gromit character.

    • Kemper Boyd

      What SA accent?

      • Neutral Username

        In episode 7 they read the the challenge clue in a ‘humorous’ accent.

        Speaking of treemail, how do we feel about the truncated messages? Feels to me like they didn’t even have the budget to buy a rhyme or two.

        • Kemper Boyd

          I find it so funny. They are just like “shit man it’s a challenge what more do you want?”

        • Assistant Dragon Slayer

          Interesting! I knew Shannon was doing some kind of funny voice, but I figured she was imitating a New Zealand politician or something.

          I’m an American with a good ear for regional accents, but South African has always been hard for me. When we did the Gabon rewatch, I recall asking Kemper Boyd if Gillian grew up in Bristol (or something like that). Which makes me wonder why a South African accent is a thing to Shannon and the other Kiwis. Is it a Southern Hemisphere thing?

          • Neutral Username

            Australia, New Zealand and South Africa have shared cultural heritage which has been kept alive by strong sporting ties. Rugby is big in all three countries. There is an annual International Competition which was previously called the Tri-Nations (but now includes Argentina) which is passionately contested. During the apartheid era, the Coloured community (those of mixed Dutch settler/Khoisan/Bantu-speaking peoples descent) of Cape Town started supporting the New Zealand Rugby team (the All Blacks) as a show of dissent. Some still do so today. The top tier of club rugby is also contested between the three countries (we’ve since added 1 team from each of Argentina and Japan).

            Equally, cricket is another area of intense rivalry, especially between Australia and South Africa.

            There are also large expat communities in Australia and New Zealand, so the culture maintains a presence.

            Now the accent they are going for is white Afrikaans, which is one of 12 Official Languages, so there’s your disclaimer on calling any individual accent a South African accent.

            And that was more than you wanted to know about Southern Hemisphere sporting rivalries.

          • Kemper Boyd

            Gillian’s accent is South African but very weird because she’s lived in America so long.
            My Grandparents were South African.

  • purplerockandy

    So… I can attest that Kemper has indeed written up the eighth episode and tried to publish it. But the site is right proper fucked right now and that write-up is not showing up. Hopefully, this will be fixed in a few hours.

    • Kemper Boyd

      Did the Ukrainian finally get in?

      • purplerockandy

        Can’t rule it out.

  • Figaro

    That melted chocolate in a ziplock bag has to be one of the most pathetic ‘rewards’ ever offered on any Survivor iteration. Hahaha, oh god, it was so bad!

    • Kemper Boyd

      Couldn’t even keep it in a cool box for them!

      • Figaro

        Probst would never stand for that! Actually I’m surprised the contestants did. If I was promised a chocolate bar and then given… that, I would mutiny!

    • Head Architect Sylvia

      That was such poor form it actually made me angry they couldn’t just keep it cool for them or give them something that wasn’t going to melt.

  • Mike Hirsch

    I think I’ve picked Shannon to win now each time, and that’s not having watched a single iota of the show. I will keep on with that pick because *shrug*

    • Figaro

      I know that you’re not actually watching and therefore probably have little to no interest in my predictions, but this seems as good a place as any to continue (start?) the winner picks discussion.
      I think Avi’s playing a quietly good game without drawing too much attention to himself, but he needs to get Sala out sometime post-merge otherwise Sala wins simply by being likeable.

      • Kemper Boyd

        Sala is pretending to play a mateship game but he’s actually playing a very good game. I think he has merge boot potential. I think Avi and Shannon could be a pair who can go far.

      • Assistant Dragon Slayer

        If Kaoh Rong taught us anything it’s to pay attention to the composition of the jury. Based on that I think all of the women are close to drawing dead, unfortunately. One of Avi or Lee seems likely to be the merge boot, and I think whichever one remains could Holloway to the end (and Avi, at least, shows signs of being able to play strategically). Similarly, they have to target the Nate/Sala pair eventually, and I think the one who remains has a good shot.

  • purplerockandy

    Here’s Kemper’s episode 8 additions, which have apparently been devoured by the site:

    Episode 7 Edgic

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1080a10ce79edd9cd8fbc66679ac320e90b5c0ee039e715d94ccd907157c9e31.png

    Gouis who has never watched a moment has sniffed out Obvious Winner Avi’s obvious winner’s edit.

    Episode 8

    An even numbered episode in Survivor NZ means something important. That someone will be voted out of the game and onto Redemption Island. Let’s see if Mogoton throw a challenge to vote out Shay or Hermosa decide it’s time to get rid of Shannon.

    Our pre-credit scene shows Georgia feeling sick and wishing she was back in the game; is that a return from Redemption to the game I smell?

    Over at Hermosa, Shannon has worked her magic on Sala and he believes she is with them 100%. She has also become very close with Avi. Slowly Shannon is using her social skills to get herself up from 5th at Hermosa towards the top.

    It’s challenge time, Barb says she is good at puzzles but hilariously thinks she sucks at everything. The boys from Hermosa are doing a “I’m good at Sudoku” level terrible job at pretending to try in this challenge. Yet Mogoton catch up because Shannon was right, Barb is not good at puzzle but Shannon is no good either. Eventually Shannon and Barb get it after Mike and Jak just stand still to let them figure it out. Hermosa wins immunity and it looks like it’s curtains for Shay. Shannon cries, which is made sadder by the fact that the other team were throwing it so hard.

    Sala and Nate sniffed out the blatant challenge throw by Mogoton and Sala knows Shay is in a lot of trouble.

    Shay goes to work on Tom and Jak about how strong Mike and Lee are. She’s right of course but it’s doubtful it’ll help. Tom offers up a plan to Mike to vote with Shay so he can say he stayed true. Then post-merge he can be a mole with Avi and Sala and take info back to the boys. Mike is not excited by the idea that his name would be written down twice.

    It’s basically exactly Shannon and Nate’s plan for Shannon post merge. Survivor NZ: Mole v Mole.

    Tribal goes exactly as you’d imagine. After a round of cocky answers from the group Shay is voted out.

    Episode 8 Edgic

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3511d7f1e50f0cb42a3c7f0c724a73ff63b7f652e3826d360e1b8475d828a3fd.png

    Take a look for yourselves, it’s pretty obvious that Georgia has this thing won, Redemption cannot stand in her way.

  • Figaro

    Did anyone else notice the terrible editing going on? At the beginning of the episode (8 I think?) Barb and Avi were shown discussing how deep the waves were and how Avi bodysurfed back to shore and it’s pretty obvious they’re discussing the immunity challenge that happens later that episode because the hammock and cushions are sitting behind Nate in the shelter.
    A similar thing happened last week when Sala was shown giving a confessional in a blue buff before the tribe swap had happened. Pretty sloppy work, especially considering how well edited the US version typically is.

    • Head Architect Sylvia

      I didn’t even notice these things! Aha to be fair I typically watch each week while doing something else because I don’t think the show needs my full attention because there is a lot of filler. I’ll keep an eye out next week for slip ups.

      • Kemper Boyd

        I also miissed it as I’m often writing bits of this recap as I watch.

  • Head Architect Sylvia

    Mike and Jak are so unpleasant to watch. The smugness is just so overwhelming. It’s odd how everyone in the game thinks Jak is hilarious but when we see what he’s saying behind everyones back he comes off as incredibly arrogant and condescending. I like Tom but the fact that he’s best pals with those two doesn’t really make me want to root for him.

    The treatment of Shay in the second episode was really cruel to watch. They threw the challenge, she screwed up the first part on her own, and she left the challenge thinking it was all her fault, when in reality they were never going to win anyway. She looked so dejected and clearly felt terrible about it. I doubt Tom placing a vote on Mike is going to change much. I understand the reasoning but it just got Shay’s hopes up when she saw the second Mike vote, when in reality that was also never going to happen. Felt really sorry for her the last two weeks. I hope she wins the duel and comes back into the competition and murders all of them.

    I’ve said it before but Shannon is delightful! I just find her so likeable and genuine. She did a good job this week getting in everyones good books, everyone is going to want to work with her at the merge, she’ll have a lot of options.

    The editing of that duel was very weird.. the screen cuts away and we hear something break, we see Mike cheer and it’s meant to be suspenseful.. but why would he be cheering if Izzy won. The outcome was pretty obvious so I’m not sure why they did that.

    • Kemper Boyd

      I don’t think that Lee was purpsefully dropping and throwing badly so she had no chance of doing well. It sucked.
      I agree I think Shannon is the most likeable person out there. Avi is just too earnest for my tastes.

      • Neutral Username

        I think Sala is a colourful enough version of his archetype.
        Tom looked like a scared child before the merge and still comes across as really timid.
        Avi seems like he’s had an interesting life but he can’t translate that into anything approaching entertainment.
        Shay was ready to scheme and I’m always up for nice person who’s ready to slit throats , but the tribe division has left her with very little room to play.
        Nate isn’t interesting per se, but he has a pretty good read on the game which is
        I agree that Shannon is quite entertaining and has a degree of smarts about the game.
        Barbara is a reserved lady.
        Jak is starting to really annoy me. Giggling about throwing a challenge is a really bad look, Smugness is a really bad look. Just really unpleasant to watch.
        Mike and Georgia are
        Lee is on this show.

        – Off topic, I forgot you were also an Arsenal fan Kemper! Wenger in? Wenger out? Wenger shake it all about?

        • Kemper Boyd

          Look. We won the FA Cup which has wiped away a lot of my anger at last season. I don’t think it’s Wenger, it’s the structure, the board, Kroenke and a lack of talent in coaching and scouting staff too. If Wenger goes no one there knows a fucking thing about running a club or a team.

        • Figaro

          It’s a shame Shay got booted because she was pretty much the only one who came anywhere close to giving funny confessionals (the “lucky I got married before I saw this bunch of gorillas and got put off men for life” and her parting dig at Mike’s lack of washing his hair were my favourites).
          I’m not sure who’d I’d rather see come back from exile out of her and Georgia. Shay’s probably more interesting at confessionals, but I think Georgia is probably the more interesting player (especially if she comes back and eventually turns on Mike somewhere down the line)

  • Neutral Username

    Point for Discussion: Throwing a challenge. Is it ever justified? Was it the right call in this here?

    • Kemper Boyd

      Yes. It is often justified. In China they did it to get rid of Aaron and it made perfect sense. I think you should throw a challenge to get rid of physical threats or strategic threats from the other side or anytime you need to keep people you are set with safe.

    • Maritimer

      It can be justified – as Kemper mentioned, China is the perfect example. I think this throw is also a good example. It works when you have an ally on the other side to protect and somebody on your side who is more aligned with the other side to boot. Basically, if it helps you get numbers, it can be justified. Throwing a challenge to boot a “weak link” on the other hand is just stupid (see CI Ozzy v Billy)