Ultimate Survivor Winners Bracket – Classic Division Sweet Sixteen

Time to decide the Ultimate Winner of Survivor. For the next month or so, we’ll have weekly polls pitting former winners in head-to-head match-ups until we get from 32 down to 1. While we cannot tell you how to vote, the intention of this tournament is to judge winners by the season in which they won, not their collected body of work. You decide what that means to you and what the Ultimate Survivor Win looks like.

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We continue with the sweet sixteen round of the bracket. Let’s see if this round gets a little more interesting

Voting ends Tuesday, February 28

1. Richard Hatch (Borneo) vs 10.Tom Westman (Palau)

Wow. Two legendary winners here. Two of the very best games in the old bracket. Hatch practically invented this game. He ran circles around everyone else because they were playing checkers and he was playing chess. My favorite moment of Hatch’s win though is when he gave up on the last challenge knowing that he was going to the final with either of Rudy and Wiglesworth and that the only way he gets Rudy’s vote is if someone else voted Rudy out. The fact that that is exactly what happened just made it all the better.

Whereas Tom had one of the most complete and dominating victories ever. There was a feeling before Tom won that the leader could never win. Tom proved that wrong. Moreover, very few since him have managed to emulate him. Tom’s win stretches throughout the entire game too. The reason his tribe kept winning pre-merge was because of Tom, because of his leadership and his own physical talents. And lest you think that Tom was only a challenge beast, remember when Greg tried to vote him out and he convinced two other people to go to rocks for him? Or how he manipulated Ian off the buoy after 12 hours? Tom is one of the best physical competitors ever, but don’t for a second think that he wasn’t also a great social player who kept his tribe together and made them into the most dominant immunity machine we have ever seen.

So, yeah, if it sounds like I am pimping Tom a bit, I am, but that is because we all remember what Hatch did, but what Tom did sometimes gets simplified and forgotten.

1. Richard Hatch (Borneo) vs 10.Tom Westman (Palau)

  • 1. Richard Hatch (Borneo) (52% Votes)
  • 10.Tom Westman (Palau) (48% Votes)

Total Voters: 130

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14. Earl Cole (Fiji) vs 11. Danni Boatwright (Guatemala)

This is an interesting matchup. Two winners who have never come back. Danni is one of the most unlikely winners. Someone who seemed like she should have been voted off time and time again and managed to work her way into the final. I will never understand how she convinced Rafe to vote out Lydia instead of her. Mind boggling. Earl, on the other hand, never seemed threatened. He had tight alliances and a great partnership with Yau-man. His biggest obstacle was getting Yau-man out at 4. Well that and the Four Horsemen. Heck that gif alone might be worth voting for Earl.

14. Earl Cole (Fiji) vs 11. Danni Boatwright (Guatemala)

  • 14. Earl Cole (Fiji) (80% Votes)
  • 11. Danni Boatwright (Guatemala) (20% Votes)

Total Voters: 128

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14. Parvati Shallow (Micronesia – Fans vs Favorites) vs 12. Aras Baskauskas (Panama – Exile Island)

Poor, poor Aras. This might be the easiest decision in this bracket, even if you believe like someone around here (cough, Andy, cough) that Parvati’s win is the most overrated in the game. For the record, I think Parvati played a better game in HvV, but her Micronesia win is still damn good and easily better than Aras. Aras did have some good qualities in his win: he helped hold the most dysfunctional alliance of all time together, called the whaaaaambulance on Terry, and was friends with Cirie! I mean these things are worthy of celebrating, but they aren’t as good as anything Parvati did in Micronesia.

14. Parvati Shallow (Micronesia - Fans vs Favorites) vs 12. Aras Baskauskas (Panama - Exile Island)

  • 14. Parvati Shallow (Micronesia - Fans vs Favorites) (91% Votes)
  • 12. Aras Baskauskas (Panama - Exile Island) (9% Votes)

Total Voters: 134

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15. Todd Herzog (China) vs 13. Yul Kwon (Cook Islands)

This seems like a matchup between two winners who won through great social games, who received a lot of help from an ally, and who were both well spoken and convincing at tribal. I value Yul’s strategy game higher than Todd’s, but Todd may have had a better social game, something he was a master at. He formed tons of bonds and made people feel comfortable. Of course, Yul did the same. Remember Todd’s final tribal performance? Awesome. Or Yul strong-arming Penner with the idol? He invented the move of using the idol for leverage. Some people might discount Yul’s win because his idol was super powered, but Yul had such control over his alliance that I am not sure it would have mattered.

15. Todd Herzog (China) vs 13. Yul Kwon (Cook Islands)

  • 13. Yul Kwon (Cook Islands) (67% Votes)
  • 15. Todd Herzog (China) (33% Votes)

Total Voters: 134

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  • Maritimer

    The Hatch v Tom one though. Tom’s game was probably better but Hatch played without a blueprint. Tom’s dominance had to be rewarded
    Took the underdog story in Yul v Todd
    The other two were cake

    • Black Dynamite

      To be fair, Hatch’s opponents also played without a blueprint.

      • Roswulf

        In that sense, maybe we should give a bump to Earl- a last minute substitute recruit who was 100% leaning a game with established conventions as he went, and still managed to win unanimously.

    • Purplerockmatt

      Tom’s win might be my favorite Survivor win ever. I really love his Palau game

      • Black Dynamite

        Despite my love for rankings, I’ve never thought of ranking winners for a lot of the same reasons this site hasn’t already done it. But when I think of the best winners, one of the first two names to pop in my head is Tom. Such a great game from a type that doesn’t really win Survivor.

      • Maritimer

        The sheer domination is just something else. Physically, strategically, and socially. And its not like the rest of the cast was weak or stupid either (mostly)

        • Black Dynamite

          I think the Palau cast is underrated. While Tom, Stephenie and Ian draw the most attention, players like Gregg, Jenn, Katie, Coby, Caryn, Bobby Jon, James and Angie brought a lot to the table. God, I love Palau.

          • Mike Hirsch

            That initial tribe selection in Palau though…such a dick move by Production.

          • Black Dynamite

            Yeah, that was shitty.

          • Mike Hirsch

            The bloom fell off the rose for me a bit after that, but primarily due to the strength of the cast, it did win me back over.

          • Black Dynamite

            Up until that unnecessary twist, Palau has a great tribe forming idea. Letting the cast spend time together before the schoolyard picks lead to good moments like Tom and Stephenie trying to form a power alliance.

          • Mike Hirsch

            Yeah, that really was a great idea up to that point. Loved the initial maneuvering.

          • Assistant Dragon Slayer

            It certainly worked out better than in Gabon.

            Stupid Gabon.

          • Maritimer

            I know the show is unfair, but that was beyond, even if Wanda did have first boot written all over her

          • Mike Hirsch

            Yeah, and, I’d have to go back to watch it again, but isn’t it like, she’s barely even on the show until they make the picks?

          • Maritimer

            I think they had one night all on an island together before the picks were made. In terms of show-wise, like 20 mins or so

          • Roswulf

            Which is enough time to get a sense of Wanda to be honest.

            Jonathan Libby on the other hand…that was just sad.

          • Maritimer

            It was. I’m not sure he even spoke. I vaguely remember he was at least somewhat attractive, that’s about it

          • Black Dynamite

            He had a confessional when he jumped in the water and tried to swim to land to get the immunity first.

          • Assistant Dragon Slayer

            I’ve heard that they intended to bring Wanda and Jonathan back for Guatemala, but that Stephanie (and to a far lesser extent Bobby Jon) was such a breakout star they ended up doing what they did (screwing Wanda and Jonathan a second time).

          • Mike Hirsch

            Poor guys, couldn’t catch a break.

          • EmAndScoutInBK

            I agree with you in that I loved the little shown players in Palau – in particular, Angie and Jenn. Also, the interactions between Caryn and Katie were priceless. We all know why they couldn’t have a women’s alliance.

          • Black Dynamite

            I wish there could’ve been more returnees from that season. Also, the Caryn/Katie interactions were great. I would get along so well with Katie if I ever met her.

      • gouis

        Is that just because he’s everything Savage wishes he was?

        • purplerockandy

          He’s everything we all wish we were.

          • gouis

            *swoon*

      • Diego Armando

        Also he never sexually assaulted anyone on camera.

  • Black Dynamite

    I voted for Tom, Earl, Parvati and in a upset, Todd.

    After learning last week that people aren’t as high on Earl as I am, I feel the need to talk about his game a bit. One thing that impressed me about Earl’s smooth game is how everyone wanted to talk to him. Everything went through Earl, people brought ideas to him and wanted to work with him all the way. That is some quality social game.

    • Mike Hirsch

      Earl is easily one of my all-time favorite players. And you’re absolutely right. It was like everyone thought they were in an alliance with Earl, but also didn’t mind very much when they got voted out by him.

    • gouis

      Todd is fine. But Yul is transcendent.

      • Black Dynamite

        I enjoyed both. Todd was a little too chaotic at times but had a great social game and a brilliant ending. Yul was brilliant, one of the best leaders Survivor has seen. I haven’t ranked winners but this was close enough for me to throw one to the underdog here.

      • Purple Rock Emma

        I like Todd a lot, but I love Yul.

        • Kemper Boyd

          Yul was the first man to master the idol. I know it was the God Idol but I think even normal idol would have worked that way on Penner.

    • Assistant Dragon Slayer

      Earl’s a great winner, particularly given that he knew less about Survivor than even your average recruit. One of the many strange things about Fiji, though, is how completely locked down the boot order was once the Four Horsemen were defeated. It makes Earl look like he’s not really doing anything (except not letting Yau Man get to the F3), and that he won mostly by not screwing up a good thing.

  • Roswulf

    I’ve seen roughly half the seasons, so I’ve been skipping voting on a lot of these.

    When I came to Parvati versus Aras, I quickly skipped over it with a sigh, as I had no memory of some “Aras” guy winning Survivor.

    I just realized that I actually watched Panama about six months ago.

    Yeah, I’m voting for Parv.

    • Mike Hirsch

      Aras, in my mind, is easily the most forgettable winner, even above Michele (who may give him a run for his money when her season isn’t quite so recent). I remember someone discussing BvW having multiple winners on it, and I was like, “Wait, Rupert never won. It was just Tina.” I had both forgotten that Aras had won AND that he was on Blood vs Water.

      • Roswulf

        And it’s not even as if the Survivor editors miscalculated with Aras’ edit, as they did with Michelle. Aras winning Panama made sense, and his victory was even mildly satisfying. And Panama is a perfectly acceptable season!

        It was just a forgettable game, where the default option won out.

        • Assistant Dragon Slayer

          This may be one of those tales that gets exaggerated over time, but I’ve heard that the broken glass from Aras’s champagne glass came very close to hitting an artery. What a weird win that would have been–Danielle DiLorenzo by default.

          • Roswulf

            “OK, Special Rule, clinging-to-life-Aras, since you had to be removed from the game on Day 39, you get to replace yourself with a voted out contestant of your choice. Would you like Cirie F. or C. Fields?”

          • Other Scott

            Aras: I would like BobDawg back

          • Oh come on: Terry has to be in contention for this hypothetical to be in existence.

        • Maritimer

          And he got into the “winner by default” position despite his best efforts. If he got his ideal final 2 (him and Cirie) he would have been destroyed

        • As someone who is currently watching Panama, they actually do a decent job for foreshadowing to the point that in the Bob Dawg boot, Courtney says something like “Aras is too hard to beat”.

        • Kemper Boyd

          Michele*

      • PurpleTally

        Panama is #7 of my Survivor season rankings and I am even rewatching it right now and I still forget about Aras.

        • Mike Hirsch

          Panama’s saving grace is that it has a lot of good characters, because the gameplay is fairly boring after the merge, excepting Cirie.

          • PurpleTally

            That is a totally accurate assessment. Though, the only other seasons I’d seen prior to watching it were Borneo and Africa, so in comparison, the gameplay was lit.

          • Yeah, but I think a big problem is that La Mina has basically all of the boring characters. Sure, Sally seems nice and is a decent narrator, but I’m not Dalton Ross.

          • Mike Hirsch

            Sally is such a weird player to be obsessed over. It’d be like someone saying their favorite character on LOST was Boone. There’s not much one can say in the way of response other than, “Really? Boone? Huh.”

          • Boone does have pretty eyes (I am a sucker for blue eyes).

          • Purple Rock Emma

            I had a big crush on Boone when Lost was first airing.

          • Black Dynamite

            Boone is good, though he is no Sawyer.

          • Purple Rock Emma

            Blond and dirty has never really been my type. Plus Ian Somerhalder has that non-threatening pretty-boy appeal that appeals directly to 14-year-old girls who like boys.

          • Black Dynamite

            Fair enough. I watched and thought “Goddamn, Sawyer is charming.” I think the look and persona did wonders for him.

          • Me too! But then I found out about his personal life and my crush took a major dive much like what happened to Boone.

          • purplerockandy

            Obsessing over obscure Survivors is really creepy. It’d be like having a thing for Kourtney Moon.

          • sharculese

            I explained Kourtney Moon to my roommates the other day (i just broke my foot in a really lame way, which aas thd lead in.) Both of them reaponded with ‘what a fucking dumbass.’

          • Assistant Dragon Slayer

            I’m a Naomi fan, myself.

          • Black Dynamite

            That’s obscure as fuck

          • Purple Rock Emma

            I’m basic. I’m still sad about Charlie.

          • Black Dynamite

            That was heartbreaking. Also I now want to rewatch Lost.

      • Kemper Boyd

        He is an absurdly boring winner.

        • Roswulf

          And Danielle is an absurdly boring FTC loser!

          • Kemper Boyd

            Yep. She was the classic can’t win final immunity winner, she got to choose who she wanted to lose to and she chose her alliance mate, which is nice.

      • Assistant Dragon Slayer

        Well, Russell THOUGHT he won…

      • Purple Rock Emma

        He’s a cutie though. I’ll give him that.

        • I didn’t even realize it until around the Bob Dawg episode, but yes, yes he is. He kinda reminds me of MvGx Adam, but I don’t know why.

          • Purple Rock Emma

            That is an insult to Aras’s face.

          • I don’t think it is his face, but there is something about Adam and Aras that’s the same to me.

          • Maritimer

            They both have the boyish thing and are kind of stereotypical 20-something white boys in terms of looks?

          • I think they are also shorter and leaner as well.

          • indescribable hat

            I think Panama Aras is the hottest Survivor ever and I didn’t really get the Adam thing last season, so I don’t see it.

          • I didn’t until his first idol play and it hit me HARD.

          • pufflehuff

            Aras was my first Survivor crush who made it far, so it’s hard to vote against him here, although obviously it has to be done. And like Adam, he also seems so nice.

      • Diego Armando

        Michele at least pissed off the viewers by winning. Arias just generated a defeated shrug.

  • Black Dynamite

    I’m very annoyed that Tom is losing right now. Hatch was great and super influential. Tom was better.

    • I may have voted for Tom. Matt made a very convincing case…it is almost like he is a lawyer or something.

    • Roswulf

      I don’t know, I’m enthralled by Richard’s FTC challenge. Tom just had to play a brilliant game, and the jury would rush to hand him money. Richard was in the odd place where even the most basic “good survivor play” like assembling an alliance could lose the game.

      Tom controlled the game, and therefore he won.

      Richard controlled the game…and then figured out a way to win as well.

      Both are clear top eight winners for me, and it sucks they match up in round two.

      • Mike Hirsch

        Yeah, Richard controlled the game in a way that it felt like cheating to a lot of the rest of the cast, and managed to win anyway.

      • Ms. Sweaterfan

        I can’t remember where I first heard of it (it might have actually been here?) but there is an exercise where you go through each season and try to determine at what point the winner had the game on lock – meaning, at what point does that person beat everyone else left in the game. I truly think Tom might have accomplished that among the earliest of any winners. So, whereas Hatch had to pull of an impressive feat of strategy (and a bit of a gamble) in the final immunity challenge to clinch his win, Tom had the game locked down pretty much as soon as Stephenie was voted out. I personally voted for Tom but I can see how the novelty of Hatch’s game would put him over the top for some.

        • I believe TEOS actually posits that Rob had the game won as soon as Zapatera loses the final pre-merge immunity challenge that ensures Ometepe would have numbers.

          • Black Dynamite

            That seems right. It was around that point where I really felt that Rob was definitely winning.

        • Roswulf

          I don’t fully buy this- I don’t think Palau was settled until that Final immunity challenge. To win Tom had to either drive Ian mad or stand on a buoy for twelve hours.

          He did both.

          • Ms. Sweaterfan

            Yeah maybe my scale of measurement is too broad. I was thinking in terms of “what is Tom’s chance of beating person X, Y or Z in a head to head” as opposed to “what are Tom’s chances of getting to the end and winning.” If it’s the former, I think Tom had it in the bag fairly early (Ian was his biggest challenger but I think Tom would still have pulled out the win) but if it’s the latter, then definitely he wasn’t a lock until he prevented the Ian/Katie final two from happening in that last challenge.

        • Assistant Dragon Slayer

          Just off the top of my head (and since we’ve been talking Fiji today), I think Earl might win this competition. Once the Horsemen are beaten, and Edgardo is voted out (in 9th place), the entire boot order is basically set in stone. Yes, it makes a big difference if Yau Man makes the final 3, but I don’t think he gets 5 votes.

      • Diego Armando

        Vote Tom, he was more dominant. Plus All Stars…

  • corndogshuffle

    Voted for Tom, Earl, Parvati (even though I agree with Andy about her, and voted for Tina last round), and Yul. Tom was just so dominant and players like him usually just aren’t allowed to win. Of course I’m biased because Palau is a top three season in my mind, #1 depending on my mood.

    • purplerockandy

      Parvati over Aras is an easy call.

      When Parvati wins this bracket, then we’ll say our piece again.

      • Kemper Boyd

        I agree with you again. I don’t like this feeling.

      • I think this will be Parvati’s last victory because I just saw who she is up against and that would be a hard victory.

        • purplerockandy

          FWIW, she beat him in the first tournament. Now, that wasn’t ranking winners, so we shall see.

          • Yeah, I remember that because I remember the write-up being something like they competed against each other in Cook Islands and here they are again.

          • Kemper Boyd

            Parvati v Yul in a player ranking and Parvati v Yul in a winner ranking are very different things.

          • purplerockandy

            It should be, as evidenced by the lack of the winner of that tournament in this one. But who knows?

          • Black Dynamite

            In a player ranking I can include Parvati in HvV (her best game). In a winners ranking I can’t. That makes a difference.

          • EmAndScoutInBK

            That’s how I feel about it. If you’re putting up Parvati’s HvV game against Yul’s, I’d have her win. But her Micronesia game… that’s a tougher match, and Yul probably takes it for me. Probably.

      • corndogshuffle

        I’m also hoping common sense wins and Yul knocks Parvati out.

    • Diego Armando

      I voted Tina also. Parvati needs to kick Aras’s butt though.

  • Other Scott

    My only minority vote this time was for Danni. I truly believe that Danni contributed to that alliance collapsing by just making them feel better working with her than Judd or Cindy. She was completely undone by numbers for reasons that weren’t her own making, and made it work through things she did and relationships she formed.

    Maybe the most underrated winner ever.

  • Assistant Dragon Slayer

    I think Lydia was in the SJDS Keith Nale, Cambodia Kimmi Kappenberg, and (truly inexplicably) SP Brandon Hantz position of having a lot of jury votes in the bag, resume or no resume, in a way that’s hard to portray on the show.

    • At least SJDS Keith had three (?) immunity wins to his name.

      • HBO CEO of Tits

        While also being a nice guy everyone liked.

        • And with the exception of Baylor and maybe Jaclyn (she is still a blank slate), everyone liked being around Keith.

          • Kemper Boyd

            If Keith get the end he gets the exact same number of votes as Natalie did. If it’s Keith, Jacq, Missy then Jacq still gets two because Reid hated Missy.

          • Well, I believe Jeremy and Natalie have both said that they would vote Missy over Keith, which checks out even in the whole “post-game interviews are not canon” era.

          • Kemper Boyd

            that probably is true because Jeremy really values the game played.

          • Diego Armando

            We can throw out Jon, Baylor and Wes’s votes, since those are set in stone.

            I truly suspect Nat and Jeremy would vote Missy, since they were close to her and likely respected her game. Alec would vote Keith. That makes 3 Missy, 2, Keith, 1 Jaclyn.

            That leaves Josh and Reed. I suspect they would vote together and vote Keith since Reed hated Missy and voting Jaclyn would force a tie that Missy could potentially win.

          • Well thought out and I agree, especially if the FTC tiebreaker is that the third placer casts the deciding vote.

          • sharculese

            After a week of hobbling around on a busted foot with access to modern medicine and real crutches thst were made by science, I sudenly respect Missy a lot more.

  • Hornacek

    Hatch vs. Tom is a tough one. I mean, they both killed a shark!

    • indescribable hat

      You know who else killed a shark? Amanda Kimmel.

    • sharculese

      I cant vote for either of them if theyre just gonna wantonly slaughter my people.

      • Hornacek

        Those sharks had it coming. If you bite Hatch, he’s gonna bite back!

    • Adam B.

      I can’t vote for Hatch because of what he did to Sue in All-Stars. Even if you tell me I’m not supposed to consider that.

      • Hornacek

        This vote is about Hatch as a winner in Borneo, not in All-Stars.

  • Super duper fan

    I voted for Tom, Earl, Parvati and Todd.

    Tom played one of the most dominant games of all time. He almost single-handedly led Koror to winning all of the immunity challenges, he won almost all of the individual immunity challenges and when he didn’t have the necklace, he still managed to survive thanks to his social and strategic prowess. While I absolutely don’t want take away anything from Richard’s win, he did play with an inferior cast (I understand that they didn’t KNOW how to play Survivor cause it was a first season, but I have to seperate them somehow) and he won by one vote (with Colleen changing her vote for Kelly because she wasn’t satisfied with Richard’s answer, so he could totally win by a larger margin). But as was shown in the FIC, he still is one of the greats and he should stay that way.

    I think what makes the Earl win even more impressive is that he was a last minute addition and he still killed it. Plus (an unpopular opinion) he did play with a generally really strategic cast. Danni is really underrated, but it just comes down to that I was more impressed with Earl.

    I don’t have have anything to say about why I voted for Parvati. But I’ll just add another unpopular opinion: I think in a Aras vs. Cirie final 2, Aras wins.

    And I voted for Todd, because he might be my favourite winner ever. Todd managed to get to the final 3, being called a threat from day 1, he played almost perectly socially and I would argue aso strategically. Some people also lessen his win cause Amanda cleaned up some of his messes, but I think it shouldn’t and I even would say it should be rewarded because he allied himself with a player that could do that, plus by being allied with that person he can go farther in the game. And while I do think that Yul is also an AMAZING winner, I just think he had some lucky brakes (the bottle twist, which made it easier for him to get into the majority and final 3, which made his god idol even MORE powerful and took the time where he would’ve probably been voted out if he didn’t win immunity). Like I said, I do think that he is a great winner, but I just simply prefer Todd over Yul.

  • Ms. Sweaterfan

    I voted for Danni over Earl but I don’t feel great about it. I was on the fence and decided to vote for the woman over the man out of solidarity, but now I feel like that was dumb. I think objectively Earl probably had to do more work for his win and had a bit more of a target on him while he was doing it. Danni did put in a lot of good work in her social game and persisted when the odds were against her, though. I guess it boils down to a philosophical question of whether it’s more impressive to win after spending the game in a leadership role with everyone thinking ‘this guy could win’ vs. spending the game in the minority and always being on the chopping block but not necessarily because people think you’re a big threat. I don’t have an answer for that, but it’s something to ponder.

    • Kemper Boyd

      I’m not sure Earl put in more work. Danni’s work was more social, creating an ease with an opposing alliance so they would turn on their own. Earl maintained an existing alliance (really well) and also had a strong supporting cast helping him (Stacey is the one who worked out how to split the vote successfully and Yau-Man was a huge part of Earl’s success).

      • Ms. Sweaterfan

        Yeah good call. Maybe the work Earl put in was just easier to identify as work, whereas Danni’s was more under the radar (and I’ll be darned if that doesn’t apply to gender dynamics in general, eh?)

        • purplerockandy

          There’s another element to why Danni gets overlooked though: she herself REFUSED to give info to production about what she was doing. She was so suspicious about how reality TV manipulates situations to create TV that she didn’t really give them anything. And thus did not give us anything.

          • I’ve heard this claim repeated a lot, but I want to point out that I’ve never seen or heard any interviews from Danni where she claims this is the case. Someone on reddit claimed she said it in an interview with Survivor Oz, but I haven’t heard that interview.

          • purplerockandy

            You’re right, it could be apocryphal. But it does explain a lot.

          • pufflehuff

            In some ways I feel like Danni is the opposite of Michele, whose edit emphasized her confessionals but didn’t back it up with scenes showing what she was doing, while there are some great little scenes where Danni shows her subtle moves but she doesn’t do much telling.

            I don’t remember Guatemala all that well but I think there’s one scene where she’s talking to Stephanie (before the Judd vote?) and there’s some great manipulation going on. Those kind of persuasive scenes are one of my favourite things to watch in Survivor and so I’m biased here towards winners where I can remember the moves they made outside of tribal or confessionals.

          • Ms. Sweaterfan

            That kind of subtle manipulation using social skills could be something that is so innate to the person that they aren’t even aware enough of it to explain it in a confessional. So, I suppose that could be another explanation for Danni’s lack of strategy talk.

          • sharculese

            I dont get this or respect it, honestly. Were I a character on a reality show I would constantly be offering production different variations on the same confessional just to give them more to work with in the edit.

            It doesnt say anything about her win, but it is trying to have your cake and eat it too. If you dont trust reality tv maybe dont go on reality tv.

          • purplerockandy

            You don’t have to convince me that “be boring on TV” is a less than noble stance.

      • purplerockandy

        I think Earl was just as, if not more, important to Yau Man’s success than the opposite. Earl picked up allies throughout the game pretty easily (evidence = Dreamz and Cassandra). Yau Man had Earl.

        • Diego Armando

          I remember reading an interview with him claiming that he bonded with Yau-Man and protected him early on. He would suggest a different name when Yau-Man was mentioned. I also suspect he may have protected Anthony as long as he could.

          This does match up with an earlier interview Sylvia gave where she stated that while Rocky and Mookey were theoretically in command, Earl was the one manipulating their moves.

  • sharculese

    Todd.

    • sharculese

      Also, just gonna say, I love Yul and all, but his win hinges entirely on Adam keeping his dumb promise. Without that were talking about Survivor winner Ozzy.